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I was going to keep the PM in a PM, but seeing as it's pertinent to this discussion... and I've been passive-aggressively called out for my ruining a city-state comment (Osric 
), I figured I might share a slightly deeper look into my personal thought process.
However, before I do, I would like to point out that in no way do I feel that any involved are bad RPers. I say this only because in previous threads, it's been the norm to twist words into such accusations.
Now then... onto the copy pasta with minor edits...
Essentially, the Ul'dah RP is on such a grand scale that, like the wiz has said, people will fall into two categories. The first being those that accept the RP is part of server lore (god... I hate that terminology) and will RP along with it. The second is the group of people that will not accept it, or don't even know about it (as only a fraction of the RP community even uses this website), and as such will run the risk of becoming RP pariahs because they didn't accept what the "in-crowd" states is lore.
As for how it frustrates me, I RP with and am known to several of the "top dogs" in that plot. My company RP is a merchant ship. Not even two days ago, Askier came up to Raandal in game and asked for his help in delivering fresh water.
Now, this puts me in all sorts of binds.Â
I, personally, do not accept that the poisoning happened and refuse to RP that it did. At the risk of becoming the RP pariah that I mentioned, I will act as though people mentioning Ul'dah's water being poisoned are insane.
It's just large plots like this (and even the bomb one of Askier's prior to this water poisoning) that pigeon hole people into one of the two categories that I mentioned above. With the bomb plot, there were certain things that I didn't care for so I rewrote Raandal out of the Flames and Sultansworn to be able to still RP with the other people and not force them to change their particular views. (Again, not saying it was bad RP. It just wasn't RP that I personally agreed with.)
Either you accept it and get to be accepted into the "in-crowd", or you stick to your beliefs and standards... and thereby get shunned and outcast.
There are many reasons why I refuse to accept it. The two most salient of those being consent to have a plot forced upon an RPer, and plausibility.
If it did happen it would affect far too many RPers without their consent. How many story lines, personal or FC, are now going to be hampered if not all around screwed because of this? On a small scale, as I mentioned before, Ul'dah is important to Raandal, am I now forced to accept that thousands (from what I understand and has been "confirmed" by Askier in the other thread) of people have died in his home town? Just what thousands have died? Politicians? Merchants? Street Urchins? What about any RPers that have stories that somehow tie directly to the water supply? Do they have to accept this poisoning or else risk being shunned and ousted?
The plausibility of Jin'li poisoning as much water as he did without being caught earlier is just absolutely insane to me. Even in that thread (and I'm paraphrasing here), they mention that the ones that were supposed to be on the lookout for Jin'li never showed and it was just shrugged off as an "oops". So, because players had scheduling conflicts, the PCs were unable to attend said event and stop the poisoning... which completely ignores the NPC side of things. They tried to cover that with the whole whiskey deal, but even then a guard would have kicked his rear out and told him to pour it in the sands. Nevermind the idea of pouring it into the water supply instead of on the ground to begin with. You don't pour anything into the water/drinking supply of a desert city and just get told not to do it again. Layer that on top of the built in lore from square regarding the war effort(s) that are constantly happening against the Garleans and primals and you're really starting to push boundaries as far as writing server lore (ew, terrible term).
), I figured I might share a slightly deeper look into my personal thought process.However, before I do, I would like to point out that in no way do I feel that any involved are bad RPers. I say this only because in previous threads, it's been the norm to twist words into such accusations.
Now then... onto the copy pasta with minor edits...
Essentially, the Ul'dah RP is on such a grand scale that, like the wiz has said, people will fall into two categories. The first being those that accept the RP is part of server lore (god... I hate that terminology) and will RP along with it. The second is the group of people that will not accept it, or don't even know about it (as only a fraction of the RP community even uses this website), and as such will run the risk of becoming RP pariahs because they didn't accept what the "in-crowd" states is lore.
As for how it frustrates me, I RP with and am known to several of the "top dogs" in that plot. My company RP is a merchant ship. Not even two days ago, Askier came up to Raandal in game and asked for his help in delivering fresh water.
Now, this puts me in all sorts of binds.Â
- Raandal is deeply fond and protective of Ul'dah. It's his home. Were this to actually have happened, it would only make sense that Raandal would hop on board and help out however he could.Â
- If I am to accept his contract, that would mean that I thereby accept that this RP did happen... and now force my company (the crew and couriers of the ship) to also accept said plot.
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[/font][/color] - I either have to accept the plot happened and RP out 1 and 2, or RP in game that Askier is absolutely insane and that the water is entirely fine, thereby painting a huge target on myself to become a RP pariah due to the fact that Askier is one of the "in-crowd" in this community.
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[/font][/color] - Not accepting the plot also runs the risk of those connected to me, namely my FC, also being painted as pariahs.
I, personally, do not accept that the poisoning happened and refuse to RP that it did. At the risk of becoming the RP pariah that I mentioned, I will act as though people mentioning Ul'dah's water being poisoned are insane.
It's just large plots like this (and even the bomb one of Askier's prior to this water poisoning) that pigeon hole people into one of the two categories that I mentioned above. With the bomb plot, there were certain things that I didn't care for so I rewrote Raandal out of the Flames and Sultansworn to be able to still RP with the other people and not force them to change their particular views. (Again, not saying it was bad RP. It just wasn't RP that I personally agreed with.)
Either you accept it and get to be accepted into the "in-crowd", or you stick to your beliefs and standards... and thereby get shunned and outcast.
There are many reasons why I refuse to accept it. The two most salient of those being consent to have a plot forced upon an RPer, and plausibility.
If it did happen it would affect far too many RPers without their consent. How many story lines, personal or FC, are now going to be hampered if not all around screwed because of this? On a small scale, as I mentioned before, Ul'dah is important to Raandal, am I now forced to accept that thousands (from what I understand and has been "confirmed" by Askier in the other thread) of people have died in his home town? Just what thousands have died? Politicians? Merchants? Street Urchins? What about any RPers that have stories that somehow tie directly to the water supply? Do they have to accept this poisoning or else risk being shunned and ousted?
The plausibility of Jin'li poisoning as much water as he did without being caught earlier is just absolutely insane to me. Even in that thread (and I'm paraphrasing here), they mention that the ones that were supposed to be on the lookout for Jin'li never showed and it was just shrugged off as an "oops". So, because players had scheduling conflicts, the PCs were unable to attend said event and stop the poisoning... which completely ignores the NPC side of things. They tried to cover that with the whole whiskey deal, but even then a guard would have kicked his rear out and told him to pour it in the sands. Nevermind the idea of pouring it into the water supply instead of on the ground to begin with. You don't pour anything into the water/drinking supply of a desert city and just get told not to do it again. Layer that on top of the built in lore from square regarding the war effort(s) that are constantly happening against the Garleans and primals and you're really starting to push boundaries as far as writing server lore (ew, terrible term).
Raandal Bennett (Deceased)