(07-21-2014, 01:42 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(07-21-2014, 01:39 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote:(07-21-2014, 01:34 PM)Coatleque Wrote:(07-21-2014, 01:29 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote: Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. The issue is you don't know, and leaders have to make those sort of decisions. You might say Lorilito's reasoning is wrong, but the morals of states are not the same of the morals of man.
A tough decision to make either way. Â At the end of the day though, he let fear of what the Germans 'might' have done dictate his action rather than using current knowledge to save lives.
Yes, but I'm just saying that every effective leader in a time of crisis generally has to make those types of decisions. If it makes them evil, then basically every leader is evil. Which I guess is fine, but it's a little boring. For example, how would the Gridanians deal with refugee problems on the scale of U'dah? How would Limsa? The fact that the Syndicate even puts up with Nanamo feeding the refugees is probably way more than the Gridanians would be willing to do. I wouldn't be half suprised if they just had the elementals chase them out.
But that's kind of the point. Â It's the illustration of how governance is soul-sucking and tends to both destroy the good people who try to be forces for change, and exalts those who are evil who pursue power for purely personal gain.
i.e. Yes, actually, government is evil in most RPGs. Â Even the good ones.
As far as Gridania goes, I really doubt the Elementals could be roused that far, considering their weakened state after the Calamity. Â But Gridania has already refused multiple refugees on the borders of their city-state. Â Check out the Quarrymill questlines sometime!
I didn't know that about quarry mill. But it just shows then, the often maligned Ul'dah and it's syndicate is actually the most altrustic and humanitarian city state. The syndicate grumbles about it, but they still pay the bills. I think you could make an argument that Ul'dah is actually the least evil of the three city states currently. Ul'dah at least tries to help, rather than just pushing people away.
Though Limsa might help too, I've never played their story.
