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Sigil.9054 · **10-30-2015, 02:03 PM**

(10-30-2015, 01:58 PM)Oli! Wrote:
(10-30-2015, 01:57 PM)Sigil.9054 Wrote: D'awww....the li'l folk want respect.

Friendly reminder that we're at the perfect height for a crotch uppercut.

And?

Blue · **10-30-2015, 02:27 PM**

(10-30-2015, 01:52 PM)Caspar Wrote:
(10-30-2015, 01:17 PM)Blue Wrote: I have the opposite problem. I do RP a couple young characters and a Very Young one (12yo), and often have to see her being hit on and treated like an adult woman just because of what the other sees on the screen (despite me having chosen 0 breast size, smallest height, and very chaste clothing). And it's not that I don't have her act childish, I do, but then I get reactions like "Is she always immature/whiny/excitable like this?" Well, yeah.... she's a kid.

Honestly wish we had more options to import our IC age (whether it be old or young) on our characters. This mid-20s universe is getting dull.
I dont get how this relates. You cant make a child character, and arguably lalas dont look like children. It differs from person to person. I know quite a few people who think they look small and cute, but it does not follow they look like a human child. I think there's some resemblance, and I play around that. But its really mostly a height thing. As for character creation, that's off topic. But I will say I'm perfectly fine with not fighting and killing child characters in PvP.

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I was just saying that, in relation to the topic, I have the opposite issue as the OP. In other words, it's not just all one way, there is also the other way. What relates is the sentiment on not being able to get the reaction you expect from others for your character, because of how he/she looks.

Also, I'm not saying child/old characters should be allowed to fight. But especially in a game with ONLY-instanced PvP elements, to give us the opportunity to create/glamour child looks on our characters (think of FFXI's child costumes) would be a very great RP element. Simply lock their fighting abilities during "child status" or whatever.

Faye · **10-30-2015, 02:42 PM**

(10-30-2015, 07:54 AM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Welcome to FFXIV, where people roleplay the stereotype so often that they ruin it for everyone else!

This, pretty much. People treat lalafell like children because so many of them (player characters, not NPC's) act like children. Even Gus isn't really an example of a "serious" lalafell. While he is a good example of an adult lalafell, even his character is hard to take seriously when he's prone to lie and exaggerate, obsessed with spooky stuff, and literally every single line of dialogue that comes out of his mouth is either something about pumpkins, something about "coitus," something about "alpha males," or "All requests must be submitted in writing." When that's the staple people think of for "serious" lalafells on the server, it's no wonder people may not take them seriously, and it's no wonder people won't take your lalafell seriously if that's what you're trying to emulate.

I've also seen people actually playing lalafells as children (often of other races), and many of them don't clearly emote that their character actually is a child to everyone they're role-playing with. Even if they are doing a good job of it, you can't include the fact that your character is a child in every single emote without it getting repetitive and tiresome. So when people see a lalafell acting like a child--because, unbeknownst to them, it actually is a child--that's just more fuel to the fire of the stereotype.

But in general, most people will treat most characters on a case by case basis (and if they don't and that bothers you, is that really someone you want to be role-playing with, anyway?) So if you find the proverbial "everyone" isn't taking your lalafell seriously, rather than wondering "What are other people doing wrong to make lalafell look childish?" or "What are other people doing wrong to see lalafell as children?", it may be prudent to take a look at what you're doing with your own character instead and figure out why he/she is eliciting the reactions that he/she is.

Also, I'm not sure how much this matters to anything, but while there are people who view lalafell as children OOC and let that bleed over into their role-play, there are also people who fully realize OOC that lalafell are not children, yet IC their characters still see lalafell as childlike. I think there's an important distinction to be drawn there. One is an OOC problem, one is an IC "problem."

Garalona · **10-30-2015, 02:43 PM**

I'm not a mod or anything, but this is getting off topic, Blue.

Anyway, people who fail to take lalafell seriously do so at their own peril. I've seen Virara in action.

Flashhelix · **10-30-2015, 02:50 PM**

Give them a mustache.

Faye · **10-30-2015, 02:52 PM**

(10-30-2015, 02:50 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: Give them a mustache.

^ Every lalafell I've ever taken seriously has had a mustache. Not even joking.

Roe Dad · **10-30-2015, 02:52 PM**

I have a Lalafell for a FC leader and I take him very seriously even if he does play a child like his char is 15 or so. But we all treat him with respect.

Val · **10-30-2015, 03:00 PM**

Children Lalafel is just the stigma that comes with playing the race due to the awful majority playing them. Same applies to gay/manwhore catboys, mesbian catgirls, and others. You either accept that it is there and RP beyond it or play something else.

Berrod Armstrong · **10-30-2015, 03:02 PM**

(10-30-2015, 03:00 PM)Val Wrote: Children Lalafel is just the stigma that comes with playing the race due to the awful majority playing them. Same applies to gay/manwhore catboys, mesbian catgirls, and others. You either accept that it is there and RP beyond it or play something else.

^ THIS.

McBeefâ„¢ · **10-30-2015, 03:04 PM**

(10-30-2015, 02:52 PM)Faye Wrote:
(10-30-2015, 02:50 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: Give them a mustache.

^ Every lalafell I've ever taken seriously has had a mustache. Not even joking.

Papashan has a mustache.

Kestrael · **10-30-2015, 03:11 PM**

I made a Lalafell yesterday and immediately upon leaving the Quicksand someone began following and poking my character. Undecided

Gegenji · **10-30-2015, 03:33 PM**

(10-30-2015, 03:04 PM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote:
(10-30-2015, 02:52 PM)Faye Wrote:
(10-30-2015, 02:50 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: Give them a mustache.

^ Every lalafell I've ever taken seriously has had a mustache. Not even joking.
Papashan has a mustache.

Gogon has a mustache!

Gegenji · **10-30-2015, 05:31 PM**

Modhat:
Somehow accidentally locked this when I was responding. This was unintentional and I'm not entirely sure how I did it. It has been reopened since I was a dumb somehow. Apologies.

Kage · **10-30-2015, 05:32 PM**

(10-30-2015, 02:52 PM)Faye Wrote:
(10-30-2015, 02:50 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: Give them a mustache.

^ Every lalafell I've ever taken seriously has had a mustache. Not even joking.

Should Kage be getting a mustache then? I'm not sure if the facial options match his little goatee tuft for a mustache.

Leanne · **10-30-2015, 05:40 PM**

As everyone stated, the childish aspect is just a stereotype mainly created by the players, since the majority of the lalafells shown in MSQ tend to be some scary/creepy peeps.

My character treats them respectfully, but is not over showering them with hugs and pettings, cause, cause...well, they're adorable and some of them let her do it! (even the overly serious ones) '-'

Although, indeed, want to be taken more seriously? Grow a mustache. It is surekill. Heck, grow some form of facial hair. Even you ladies. Yes, talking to you Virara.

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