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McBeefâ„¢ · **08-07-2014, 06:04 PM**

Natalie's wishes.

"Free Beer Forever."

"Free Fish forever."

"No more beer and fish for kage."

Sorry Kage.

-Would your character use the wishes to begin with? If yes, how would they justify it? If no, would your character feel regretful of not taking the wishes in the future?

She would, because she really likes beer and fish.

-What would your character wish for? Is there anything they believe worth sacrificing or harming themselves or others for? Does your character believe in ideals? Does your character hold their goals above the wellbeing of those they care about? What does your character value? Why would they obtain it through a wish, rather than traditional means?

See Above

-Does your character believe that the ends justify the means? If yes, when? If no, do they believe that good results from contemptible methods have no value, regardless of the circumstances? Why?

Natalie believes that she wants free beer and fish.

-Does your character believe that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? Would they make large wishes for the fortune of all, sacrificing the few for the many, or small wishes for the sake of their loved one's health? For selfish characters, do they believe that their own wellbeing and health comes before other personal advancements such as wealth or social status?

Natalie's need for beer and fish outweighs kage's need for beer and fish. He drinks too much anyway.

-How would your character contend with the knowledge of what they are responsible for? How does your character cope with guilt or loss? How do they react to the injury or damage that their loved one, or they themselves, must endure?

She would contend with the knowledge by eating one of her infinite supply of perfectly prepared flakey, steaming hot, perfectly seasoned fish. Then she would cope with the loss by drinking one of her infinite mugs of cold delicious beer.

-What harm would they inflict, and why? Would they make the harm mild but lasting, so as to minimise the effects, or intense and instant so that it is over quickly? What aspects about their lives or the lives of others do they consider

No more beer and fish for kage ever. It will turn to ash in his mouth. He will have to sit and watch nat drink and eat free stuff forever.

Kage · **08-07-2014, 06:05 PM**

(08-07-2014, 06:04 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote: Natalie's wishes.

"Free Beer Forever."

"Free Fish forever."

"No more beer and fish for kage."

Sorry Kage.

Are we being specific about the alcohol cause remember Kage likes ale. So he's like dayum this is a good deal.

BUT WAIT. FISH Cry

Val · **08-07-2014, 06:12 PM**

Cyrus wouldn't take them at all. He'd certainly entertain the idea and want to do what he could to help people, and he would know that Unmei would likely offer to sacrifice herself for the good of many, as would he. ..But ultimately, he'd never let anything happen to her. He'd just promise to try his very best to help the world with his own two hands.

Melfice would.. well. He'd likely not take them, but instead spend several hours, weeks, months, whatever studying whatever device is granting them and try to find a loophole or see if there's a way to take that power from it--for scholarly purposes, of course! Assuming he would, it's rather hard to say what he'd use them on. He'd likely try to mess with people or something, but he's such a stickler for the optimum that he'd wait /forever/ to make sure that it was the best time for them to be used. In all likelihood, they'd never get used anyway and he'd throw the paper in his collection for studying purposes. Also, he's rather fond of his current companion and wouldn't wish to cause her any harm.

***Nero*** · **08-07-2014, 06:25 PM**

(08-07-2014, 04:54 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Where one person sees kind and good-heartedness, other people see selfishness and greed.

We could wish a peaceful end to the Garlean war. We could wish Ishgard back to sanity. We could wish for an unending era of prosperity and glory and we only have to pay the price of... one person. Sure, they might just be retconned out of existence. Sure, they might be bound to eternal damnation for eternity just so the rest of the world could see immaculate heaven and light.

We deny that, for all of Eorzea and the entire world, for one person.

This is exactly the sort of idea on philosophy I was planning to post, but I scrapped it in my earlier post out of a desire to keep things on track. Still, though, it's an interesting discussion.

How do we define altruism or righteousness? Is it "good" to forsake the benefit to the many because of the value of the few? But on the other hand, would it also be considered "good" to benefit others, even against their will? Do we, as single individuals with no hint of omniscience, have the moral right to make a decision with which we will not understand the full consequences? Making the wish "I wish everyone would cooperate and understand one another" is essentially just brainwashing. Wishing for an end to hunger or poverty has extraordinary consequences that might do more harm in the long run.

Anyway, this topic is debatably worth an entirely different thread on its own, but I'm glad someone else brought it up. It's something to think about.

HonZoMon · **08-07-2014, 08:37 PM**

I remember a wise man once made a list of the three things that I'd wager Honzo would probably wish for...

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Legit list coming soonÂ Angel

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