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Tiergan · **09-28-2014, 12:39 AM**

Tabletop is actaully an excellent analogy. I would even go as far as saying that MMO-RP has its roots in Tabletop RP.

Mithril Specs · **09-28-2014, 12:41 AM**

Oh yeah, I should have worded my post a bit more clearly there, in hindsight. As far as one's own characters are concerned, anything goes, really. I myself ended up changing up some of mine this way , mostly due to not really feeling a setting anymore, but not wanting to waste a perfectly good character, so to speak. Or overhauling a really old character you haven't written in years - that's some way to get the creative juices going.

Seriphyn · **09-28-2014, 03:18 AM**

There are, uh, a lot of anime-esque characters in Balmung I've noticed. Particularly, er...Midlander males. Like, just their characterization and the way they're played.

Nebbs · **09-28-2014, 04:56 AM**

I will RP with most folks and adjust my style to try and accommodate the RP. The things that will make me walk away are below and not so much your character concept:

Too much OOC
Way off the lore
God emotes
God powers

Lyriell · **09-28-2014, 06:45 AM**

(09-27-2014, 10:51 PM)Titor Wrote: Just going to leave this here

Quote:3.5 Naming Right.Â You may not use any name or other intellectual property belonging to Square Enix or any other third party in your use of the Game (for example, naming a character after a celebrity, company, product, or superhero).
I don't take that too seriously to be honest. I've been playing with that name for about half a year and it's pretty common that people use names from all sorts of different platforms.

I think I'll just stick to more light RP with Fate since the community seems pretty torn about the subject, which is totally fine with me ^^

Leomoon · **09-28-2014, 07:08 AM**

My own character is a newly becoming demi god but I do make to dark as it should be, in one moment my toon grabbed a bandits head by a single hand and ripped part of his skull off. Hell there is a story where she is amassing power by fooling common travelers with the promise of gold for relics to make her stronger.

Foxling · **09-28-2014, 09:12 AM**

(09-27-2014, 10:51 PM)Titor Wrote: Just going to leave this here

Quote:3.5 Naming Right.Â You may not use any name or other intellectual property belonging to Square Enix or any other third party in your use of the Game (for example, naming a character after a celebrity, company, product, or superhero).

The least upheld rule in the game. And by 'least' I really mean 'not upheld at all'.

Berrod Armstrong · **09-28-2014, 09:18 AM**

I tend to take all characters seriously at first -- especially if they approach. As the interaction goes on, I simply use my discretion to determine whether I want to continue or find something else to do. Sometimes having my character react to that sort of portrayal can be fun -- but I have my limits! Those limits lie around where things seem more like trolling than roleplay, however.Â

Otherwise, if someone is playing a broody yellow-spiky-haired guy with a big ol'sword, and approaches me, I'll play with 'em and see what happens.

Roswyn · **09-28-2014, 10:28 AM**

(09-28-2014, 09:12 AM)Foxling Wrote:
(09-27-2014, 10:51 PM)Titor Wrote: Just going to leave this here

Quote:3.5 Naming Right.Â You may not use any name or other intellectual property belonging to Square Enix or any other third party in your use of the Game (for example, naming a character after a celebrity, company, product, or superhero).

The least upheld rule in the game. And by 'least' I really mean 'not upheld at all'.

GM's won't proactively change names it typically has to be reported first.

Kellach Woods · **09-28-2014, 10:29 AM**

(09-28-2014, 09:12 AM)Foxling Wrote:
(09-27-2014, 10:51 PM)Titor Wrote: Just going to leave this here

Quote:3.5 Naming Right.Â You may not use any name or other intellectual property belonging to Square Enix or any other third party in your use of the Game (for example, naming a character after a celebrity, company, product, or superhero).

The least upheld rule in the game. And by 'least' I really mean 'not upheld at all'.

The reason it's not upheld is that, essentially, they need active reports in order to do anything, and nobody really cares. Anyone who comes from a superhero MMO background knows the deal since even there, that rule was only enforced if you reported.

Yes, it's a giant system of snitching.

Kage · **09-28-2014, 10:45 AM**

It essentially means you're good until someone decides to actually report you. In which case they take you to GM jail from what I hear and tell you to change your name.

i think people explained why the viewpoint is taken so seriously. RP on tumblr and Livejournal seems stemmed from fanfiction where if you had an OC insert most people are -way- more concerned about mary sues and gary stus. It doesn't mesh all too well with MMO RP.

I know you don't want to change the name and honestly I say you can keep it. But IC and during Roleplay scenes I'd suggest just having the character say "-some name not actually derived from an actual characters' name-" If they do say something about your name, you don't want to RP with them anyway cause that's meta-gaming.

And yes I realize my name is a complete weaboos but I've rolled with it... and people have done the same... but it's not an actual characters' name.

I'm just going to say this here now. I fucking love Nanoha and Fate. If I met you in-game and you did use the name I might roll with it but i would be -seriously- -fucking- -judging-.

SayonaraRevival · **09-28-2014, 11:16 AM**

@Mithril -- I don't see how it isn't comparable actually. if you've even been in a tag for a fandom as they're called, for even just a minute, you are going to see AUs. they're literally everywhere. people write fanfiction of other Final Fantasy games' characters in modern AUs. people will RP x character in y setting all the time in those groups of canon characters I mentioned. I've noticed it happens far less with the OCs/player-made characters. people will even draw AUs -- for example, a modern anime's characters in a Final Fantasy AU itself. just look at this: https://www.tumblr.com/search/au (apologies in advance for anything you might need brain bleach for.) then there are the AUs where characters are slightly different, or something happened in the AU differently, or so on and so forth.

to be honest, I think what 'works' on Tumblr or messengers just varies from person to person, pretty sure it's just personal bias for the most part -- but there's no way I'm going to let people here think OP is the only one who would RP using an AU!Fate. I guarantee there are people out there RPing an AU!Fate or RPing with one. while the canonical RPer side of tumblr is a different breed than MMO RPing usually is... rejecting a mix of the genres seems a little more like "this is different and I don't like it!" (ie. personal preference) rather than a complaint that is capable of being discussed. yes, personal preference is 100% okay to have, I realize this, and I also realize I might be sounding way too persistent -- but I am trying to tell people in this thread that this isn't as abnormal or weird as I get the impression they think.

as for the exact name... Â while SE having a rule against it is one thing that OP would probably do best to keep in mind, overall -- there's really not a lot of problem besides that? how far can you bend the policies of "no names from other mediums/products"? given that copyrights can protect a character's basic appearance/name/traits, I can understand why that is a problem given SE's rule... but how far can you take it? if we assume someone with a very generic name is a celebrity, will a username need to be changed despite the popularity of the first/last name beyond the celebrity? and what constitutes "celebrity"? a legal contract with a company... ? how far does that bend?

but the legality regarding the situation in this topic ultimately falls further into the "is fanfiction illegal?" spectrum. if you guys want to talk about that, it's out of my ballpark -- the legal issues, anyway.

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@Tiergan -- you are 100% right. Tumblr RP has roots in fanfiction. that same era where "OMG MARY SUE" used to be thrown around at every writer who even attempted to write a female character that wasn't a canon. (hell, even canons got trashed as a Mary Sue.) of course, most of what I saw was hormonal teenagers writing fanfiction, so of course they'd be rather opinionated. (that's still the case tbh.)

when you say "some guy has his OC doing stuff just as wacky/'badass' as the main characters" I say it doesn't have to feel off -- because while I agree that, say, saving the world ten times is probably a little much, I also think that for an OC to be an interesting one, they need to fit in well with the universe AND give something to it, story-wise. otherwise you have a boring OC. but that's what I see happening to so many OC players -- they're terrified of making an interesting OC because of people disliking OCs simply for the fact that they're original. and there's the inherent problem with that sort of view. thus, to skirt the "original characters can't be awesome (like the main characters)" stigma around canon characters, the OC players just settle for a boring character.

in MMOs this isn't as big a problem given that all the characters RPed count as OCs anyway, but on Tumblr, where the age ranges generally younger, as an OC player you tend to end up worrying more about if this or that RPer will RP with you or not. they might not even care. they might not even try. they don't even have to try, given that RPing is for fun, but it doesn't change the fact that it hurts to be told "I won't RP with you because of my personal bias against OCs." and I see no arguments thus far that those who refuse to rp with OP's AU!Fate would be absolutely the same type of superficial stigma, but in a reverse situation.

(here I am, challenging the norm again... )

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@ArmachiA / Kage -- I'm tempted to ask why you both say MMO and tabletop RPing is too different from fandom RPing to be compared?

Mithril Specs · **09-28-2014, 12:00 PM**

No, it still seems like quite a false equivalency to me, because an MMO and a bloggin platform just are two very different platforms , for starters. Over there, you pretty much got a blank canvas where everything goes and where "canons" are sometimes needed in a group setting, while here it's pretty much all OCs, so taking a character from a show is going to cause some intense headscratching.

You're right in that AUs are a popular thing on Tumblr, but thus far I've seen the whole thing being implemented in a different fashion than is suggested here. You got your coffee shop AUs, or , yeah "what if" instances of how a character might be in another setting, but the thing I've yet to see a kind of "fandom shift" who would actively seek out another community. To elaborate: that'd be if someone would take ol' Ash from pokÃ©mon, do a, hell, Attack on Titan imagining of the character with the same name and then do the extra mile of interacting with said tumblr community. Now there's something I haven't seen before, well if someone did that, there'd be the same amount of headscratching going on, despite the canon bias.

I really don't want to end up being inflammatory here, but I want to say that just because something is seen as a bad idea and discussed honestly doesn't mean that there's some unfair stigmatisation going on.

FreelanceWizard · **09-28-2014, 12:03 PM**

Naturally, you can, of course, RP whatever you want.

That said, from my experience in MMO RP, most MMO RPers come from the tabletop and LARP worlds (or even the MU* world, where fanfic-like games were often less common than original universes or those derived from tabletop RPGs), where playing a canonical character is typically viewed extremely negatively. Even tabletop RPG players who play in licensed universes (Star Wars, Firefly/Serenity, Amber, etc.) generally don't play canonical characters, as part of the fun is creating your own character and placing them in that setting. Canonical characters are established as NPCs.

So, you can imagine that there's a significant clash between the fanfic RPers, who typically play canonical characters to avoid Mary Sues, authorial wish fulfillment, etc. and the tabletop/LARP RPers who find playing canonical characters to be abhorrent. My supposition is that those RPers who classify themselves as "heavier" RPers typically come out of the tabletop/LARP tradition, and that there are more players from that tradition in MMOs generally. Even if you reject those suppositions, though, while playing an original character in an MMO may grate on those from the fanfic community who are playing in an MMO, playing a canonical character in one will result in rejection from a significant proportion of the MMO RP community. Basically, it's a different culture and tradition of RP, with different norms.

In short: while you can do whatever you want, playing canonical characters (regardless of whether they jumped here via cross-universe portal or not) is likely to result in significant problems in your RP, so my advice is to not do it.

Aldotsk · **09-28-2014, 12:24 PM**

I like Nanoha series too.Â

I honestly don't care as long as you don't directly use Fate's backgrounds from the series. To my view, Testarossa is not a rare name Â in fantasy world lores. I can see it being used by many players. Â Fate? Some people actually have the name Fate in common world.Â

It's not like we'll know that you are from alternate world. As a matter of fact, there has been many characters that has shown up doing dimensional traveling ie. Shantotto and Lightning. So all I can say is, go for it.

Also we had someone named Mineva Zabi, and I didn't discriminate. I actually befriended the person.

Titor Wrote:Just going to leave this here

Quote:3.5 Naming Right.Â You may not use any name or other intellectual property belonging to Square Enix or any other third party in your use of the Game (for example, naming a character after a celebrity, company, product, or superhero).

You try to change Super Mario's name in Balmung, I'll kill you >:/

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