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Kailia · **11-28-2014, 06:18 PM**

Quote:May contain some adult related material!

Wasn't entirely sure where to post this but since this is RP related, figured I'd post it in the RP Discussion. Plus we've seen a lot of threads about pregnancy, age of consent, etc. Which got me thinking. Are there any natural contraceptive herbs in Eorzea? Well I did some research on real world herbs that are said to work as contraceptives and I believe I've found at least 2 equivalents:

Thistle - Temporary sterility by placing the entire plantÂ in boiling water. The very bitter, strong tasting liquidÂ is then consumed. An in game item that closely fits the description is:Â Shroud Tea Leaves. They have a text description ofÂ Picked from plants that grow wild in the Black Shroud, these leaves are extremely bitter and are not ideal for brewing tea.

Wild Carrot Seeds -Â For when unprotected sex occurs, will workÂ as an implantation preventer. One tsp of carrot seeds are taken immediately and continued each day for another 7 days. Obviously the in gameÂ equivalence is Coerthan Carrot Seeds.

Who knows maybe those who RP doctors and healers, will find this information useful.

FreelanceWizard · **11-28-2014, 06:26 PM**

Mae listed off some contraceptives and related items that exist in game on another thread, so that could be a useful resource as well.

Shizuka · **11-28-2014, 07:07 PM**

I've always personally RP'd the use of a very bitter tea as a contraceptive. And as with all contraceptives, it was stated to not be 100% guaranteed, so it's not a "get out of jail free" card so to speak. But other than that, I've never really gone into the details of what exactly is IN this tea, but it sounds like it's very similar to thistle.

Kellach Woods · **11-28-2014, 08:08 PM**

I figure, if there's a fish that makes ya randy, there's probably a fish that solves that problem too.

Titor · **11-28-2014, 08:32 PM**

In a world of magic an alchemy I could near guarantee that a spell/geometry/potion would exist for infertility.

Gegenji · **11-28-2014, 08:33 PM**

(11-28-2014, 08:32 PM)Titor Wrote: In a world of magic an alchemy I could near guarantee that a spell/geometry/potion would exist for infertility.

Whole new meaning to the phrase "X-Potion."

Mae · **11-29-2014, 12:44 PM**

Going to repost from that other thread that FreelanceWizard mentioned:

Quote:Oookay, first off, some terminology:
-- emmenagogue: an herb to start menstruation, and is often used for the purpose of avoiding/ridding pregnancy
-- abortifacient: an herb used in-context solely for avoiding/ridding pregnancy [edited in note: don't go crazy on this term, please... it is what it is, the morality of the term and it's implications can be discussed somewhere else.]Â

The item description forÂ PennyroyalÂ correctly identifies it as an emmenagogue.Â The game also correctly identifies it as being extremely toxic. Even using half of the... 'recommended dose' to start menstruation has on occasion killed women in the real world. Do what you want in-game with that knowledge, but I highly recommend that in the real world that you do NOT use it.

Mistletoe berries have an old reputation for being used as birth control: it wasn't kissing that you did under the mistletoe, it was bumpin' uglies while using mistletoe. Much safer than pennyroyal, but still has some risk (non-fatal, thankfully) and is typically labeled as an abortifacient. The game has a few different versions of mistletoe in it.

Mugwort and ginger (root) are also known emmenagogues. Can cause lightheadedness and a bit of nausea, but generally safe when use correctly.

Parsley... I have found a lot of folk references for parsley, but no actual medical backing. Fresh parsley is... uhhh...inserted... for twenty-four hours after copulation, and somehow prevents pregnancy, possibly in the same way Wild Carrot does (see below).

So, that's it for actual in-game items. There are a few more I can think of off the top of my head that don't have in-game icons/references, but their in-game existence wouldn't be too much of a stretch:

Ergot is a fungal infection ofÂ ryeÂ plants that has been used as an abortifacient in early/mid term and to induce labor... but it can be dangerous as it can cause the uterus to rupture. It is also known to be a hallucinogenic and cause hysteria, and a painful burning sensation in limbs.

Wild carrot (Queen's Anne's Lace) seeds. The game has cultivated carrots, parsnips, and parsley, I don't think it'd be too much of a stretch to believe that Queen Anne's Lace would also exist. There are also terrain flowers that look a lot like these in both the Shroud and La Nosca. Anyways. Seeds are chewed or brewed into a tea and taken after copulation, and makes the uterus 'unsuitable' for egg implantation.

The game makes no distinction to what type ofÂ elmÂ we're dealing with or if there is or isn't multiple types of the tree, so it is possible that Slippery Elm might exist. Works much like ergot in that it's an abortifacient in early/mid term and used to induce labor in the late term. It is also used to ease labor, and has many other common uses that makes it fairly safe (it's even in some baby food to help ease/prevent colic).

In regards to the thistle mentioned in the first post, we have lettuce and artichokes in-game, so a logic jump to thistle isn't too farfetched. I'll hunt around and see if I can find a terrain graphic that could be used as a 'source'. Same with wild yams... I don't think there's an in-game precedent for something specifically of the yam family, but I -think- I remember seeing a terrain graphic for lianas...

I would nitpick about using Coerthas Carrot (a cultivated carrot) seeds the same way as you would Queen Anne's Lace/Bird's Nest Flower (Wild Carrot) seeds. Yes, they are in the same family (along with parsley, parsnips, and poisonous hemlocks), but the properties aren't the same across all members. You wouldn't want to use cultivated carrot seeds for contraceptives any more than you would hemlock seeds, albeit for different reasons -- you'd have to consume a nearly prohibitive amount of cultivated seeds to begin to have an effect, where the hemlock ones would just kill you.

Quote:I figure, if there's a fish that makes ya randy, there's probably a fish that solves that problem too.

Fish from polluted waters often contain chemicals that lower sex drive.

Dr. Kellogg actually developed Corn Flakes to be a food to lower sex drive. In general, bland foods with uninteresting textures seem to have a psychological effect of lowering libido.

Ciel · **11-29-2014, 02:23 PM**

I've made reference IC and in other threads to Queen Anne's lace, but calling it Shroud Lace instead.Â Mostly a head canon thing.Â Feel free to use the term if you like, but as noted above it relates to wild carrots and the seeds are taken much the same way.

Mae · **11-29-2014, 03:28 PM**

(11-29-2014, 02:23 PM)Ciel Wrote: I've made reference IC and in other threads to Queen Anne's lace, but calling it Shroud Lace instead.Â Mostly a head canon thing.Â Feel free to use the term if you like, but as noted above it relates to wild carrots and the seeds are taken much the same way.

I think the one time I actually had the Gardener reference it in-game, I used either "Bird's Nest Flower" or "Sanctuary Flower". It's one of those plants that grows in so many places that it has a bunch of different names, heh.

Sigyn Shieldbreaker · **11-29-2014, 03:52 PM**

Blue and black cohosh equivalents might be something in Thanalan. Maybe it's the same as thistle.Â

This is a great informative thread. Thanks for posting it.

Kailia · **11-30-2014, 10:55 AM**

(11-29-2014, 03:52 PM)Sigyn Shieldbreaker Wrote: Blue and black cohosh equivalents might be something in Thanalan. Maybe it's the same as thistle.Â

This is a great informative thread. Thanks for posting it.

Welcome

D'aito Kuji · **12-02-2014, 03:08 PM**

I've always kind of presumed that Miqo'te females control their own fertility and are only fertile when they want to be, when sufficiently impressed with a Tia or Nuhn, for instance. Â But that's probably a little bit "out there."

Parvacake · **12-02-2014, 03:12 PM**

Since Lili has maintained an active sex life in the last half year IRL time or so, she just drinks herbal teas in the morning that help. I never RP'd out the details of what's in them save they keep her from getting McPreggers, but I'm sure they'd be like the herbs you listed Smile

Thanks for the thread and info!

Aysun · **12-02-2014, 03:13 PM**

(12-02-2014, 03:08 PM)Daitokuji Wrote: I've always kind of presumed that Miqo'te females control their own fertility and are only fertile when they want to be, when sufficiently impressed with a Tia or Nuhn, for instance. Â But that's probably a little bit "out there."

I'd agree that's pretty darn out there, but to each their own! I don't know of any biology in higher-mammals that would allow a female to control her own fertility.

I too do the bitter tea route and use a RNG, since such things are never 100% effective. I just leave details vague since we don't have anything specific in game. XD

K'nahli · **12-02-2014, 03:14 PM**

(12-02-2014, 03:08 PM)Daitokuji Wrote: I've always kind of presumed that Miqo'te females control their own fertility and are only fertile when they want to be, when sufficiently impressed with a Tia or Nuhn, for instance. Â But that's probably a little bit "out there."

What in the world brought you to such a random conclusion?Â *laughs*

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