Oh I forgot to mention that Berrod's axe-work is entirely influenced by me swinging a broom at a wasps nest.
Tearful roaring included.
Tearful roaring included.
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01-08-2015, 03:42 PM
Oh I forgot to mention that Berrod's axe-work is entirely influenced by me swinging a broom at a wasps nest.
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01-08-2015, 03:50 PM
I did about 10 years of Kuk Sool Won, which is a kind of Korean martial art style that focuses largely on self defense and disarming opponents. And in college I did about a year of MMA, in which I was one of the smallest (by height and weight) students. So when fighting as Sounsyy I really try to pull from those experiences.
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01-08-2015, 03:51 PM
I'm so amused right now. As I was writing that blurb about Yvelont's fighting style, I realized it pretty much described his first meeting with his wife-to-be with 100% accuracy. Looool.
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01-08-2015, 03:56 PM
I feel like this is a pretty good resource on this topic for those of us going for a more European middle ages approach to our weaponry:
http://www.thortrains.com/getright/Medie...Combat.htm Yvelont Navarre
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01-08-2015, 04:00 PM
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(01-08-2015, 03:41 PM)Aaron Wrote:(01-08-2015, 03:37 PM)Nako Wrote: I remember reading somewhere that icepick grip was a stance for either masters or amateurs :pIt is. In Iaido and Kenjutsu reverse grip is actually utilized as a defensive posture for dealing with faster opponents or those with knives. It's fancy and not a style in and of itself, better viewed as a technique or move with each use as you're typically utilizing the pommel and guard to strike points to create openings than debilitating blows, of course a pommel strike to the throat was typically viewed as a finishing strike. With regards to longswords beyond kendo and iaido I'm only aware of anything related to reverse grip being "duelist tricks" and the stuff used for showboating. According to a modern arts instructor I know anything within the realm of a 30 inch blade is suitable for reverse grip styles, course fantasy seems to love reverse grip for some strange reason. |
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01-08-2015, 04:04 PM
For Erik I draw from Fechtbuchs. In a forum rp from last year I basically copied several descriptions of attacks from the books into the combat scenes. Spear through the chin to the brain? In there. Bloody triple shield bash to break the face? In there. Focusing and deep breathing before "darkness" (in the book its called clarity) broke a vault door? In there.
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01-08-2015, 04:10 PM
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(01-08-2015, 04:00 PM)Hiro Wrote:I was referring more to those stuffs you see in anime etc where the guy fights offensively with a katana like sword and tears everything apart.Â(01-08-2015, 03:41 PM)Aaron Wrote:(01-08-2015, 03:37 PM)Nako Wrote: I remember reading somewhere that icepick grip was a stance for either masters or amateurs :pIt is. Kadaj & Galen Marek are perfect examples - In reality fighting with a sword about as long as your arm offensively with a reverse grip (trying to slash with the blade pointing opposite the inside of your wrist) would not only fail but would lack power even if you did hit. Defensively I can see how it can be used. Offensively? No. Kevin Gates - Told Me
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01-08-2015, 04:13 PM
(01-08-2015, 04:08 PM)Sounsyy Wrote:(01-08-2015, 03:26 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote: Natalie used more of a Roman style of fighting. I've always loved the sort of brutal, machine like nature of roman sword and shield fighting. Very efficient, not at all flashy, and incredibly deadly. Just get as close as you can, use your giant shield to press your enemy's arms and weapons against their body, and just start stabbing over, under, and around it. Obviously there is more to it than that, but it was my inspiration. I feel not enough people embrace the historical 'gladiator' when they play the gladiator class. Yes! A good example can be seen in the opening of HBO's rome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uocQ8t9K9FA The legionnaires just wait for the enemies to charge into them, since their axes won't be useful in close range, and then just stab up, down, and around. Obviously the style is slightly different when you aren't in formation, but it's beautifully mechanical. I think it's not that well known because it's less a style, and almost like a mathematical equation of how to kill people in melee combat the simplest way. |
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01-08-2015, 04:13 PM
I don't have any specific fighters in mind, but I picture Dogberry's hand to hand fighting as very MMA Heavyweight inspired. Mostly just the striking, as holds tend to be a little godmodey in PVP fights.
For Lancer, I have a little bit of training in spears in Darkon/Dagorhir and some SCA fighting. It's nothing like what I'd call "realistic" combat, but Dogberry tends to fight much like I do. Triangular footwork, choking up and down on the shaft (hyuk hyuk), body checking and throwing my weight around when people get close. I learned a LOT from Sword Knight Boot Camp videos. No Gods and Precious Few Heroes |
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01-08-2015, 04:15 PM
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Since we're getting into actual styles, I'm really hoping to get some more Aikido-style fighting with Chachan. The style is all about protecting one's self while also avoiding harming others, which I think really fits the little guy as a character. It's also all about redirecting momentum, which is how I feel a Lalafell would definitely have to deal with - say - a Roe or a Manlander bearing down on them. Plus, it's well-known oriental art that fits with his heritage of coming from Doma/Not-Japan.
Unfortunately, most of what I know of that particular style is what I learned in the aforementioned katana/naganata training at the fencing school I attended briefly. I'll definitely need to do more research if I want to incorporate it more into Chachan's combat style. (01-08-2015, 04:09 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote: Alternatively a blade grip, is pretty useful for anyone fighting with a European style great sword. The first 1/3 or so of the blade is likely dull, so you can grab it, and increase your power for close quarters fighting. I also make Chachan do this a lot, actually. Considering that his current (and most future) blades is blunt and relies on concussive force for damage, I have a lot of fun turning the blade briefly into almost a staff for cross-guards and the like. Though... I still remember a move I was shown at the fencing school where someone basically flipped over a broadsword and brained a pumpkin with the guard like an impromptu hammer. Vicious stuff, and shows just how creative people can be with a weapon. |
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01-08-2015, 04:16 PM
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(01-08-2015, 04:13 PM)Aaron Wrote:(01-08-2015, 04:09 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote:I didn't know that actually. Â . Neat!(01-08-2015, 03:41 PM)Aaron Wrote:(01-08-2015, 03:37 PM)Nako Wrote: I remember reading somewhere that icepick grip was a stance for either masters or amateurs :pIt is. I've showed this before, the sword fighting starts around the halfway mark. If your opponent is in armor, and/or a shield, swinging isn't going to do anything but tire you out. However if you shorten your grip, your ineffective slashing thing is now a shield, staff, stabby spike, leverage, and everything in between. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlIUrd7d1Q |
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