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Kage · **01-15-2015, 08:50 AM**

At this point I am seriously considering that it is possible that Balmung is just reaching capacity.

Seeing how SE views the housing situation (they've said they're quite content with what has been given with 2.4) I don't think they are going to do anything such as increase capacities until it is widespread.

Tack · **01-15-2015, 09:01 AM**

(01-15-2015, 08:14 AM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Don't matter much why it happens at this point.

The majority of servers are under lock at primetime. I couldn't believe it - I think maybe... 3 servers had space still.

We've one person that this experience (granted they wanted to get into Balmung but still) has negatively affected enough that they've just straight up quit the game before they started.

SE needs to fix this.

Not just one person. Not to mention, there are probably others with similar struggles that you haven't heard from. While I did get into Coeurl, this whole ordeal has discouraged me from playing. Coeurl's starting area for me was almost completely empty. No community to connect with, at all! The reason I dished out $25 was because I wanted to play on Balmung with the other roleplayers, something that I deluded myself into thinking was possible. Now I'd just rather not play at all, knowing that the devs here don't seem to be involved in bettering their broken game.

Steel Wolf · **01-15-2015, 09:08 AM**

So....they....see that both Balmy and Greg are under 24 hour lockdown and fail to do anything about it. Not even an action plan. Stellar.

We're going to have all sorts of Cavistus' unless we try to do our part, since it's rather patently obvious SE doesn't have any fix.

Sidefrown Award to SE Ops team. Way to go, folks. :/

Kellach Woods · **01-15-2015, 09:14 AM**

Again, to SE they don't give two fucks you can't get on the server you want because the solution, to them, is pick another server.

Until all the servers are under primetime lockdown or close to it, they won't do a thing. Which, surprisingly enough, is actually close to happening.

Unfortunately, I fear the fix will be establishing the EU Data Center then offering a transfer for all our Euro friends Sad

Berrod Armstrong · **01-15-2015, 09:17 AM**

Is anyone able to check now? This is the time I'd usually get in to create my army of alts.

Kage · **01-15-2015, 09:28 AM**

(01-15-2015, 09:17 AM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote: Is anyone able to check now? This is the time I'd usually get in to create my army of alts.

I recently moved my desk to the bedroom so I couldn't check an hour ago (which is when I used to do so as well) but last week I wasn't able to make any alts.

Ilwe'ran · **01-15-2015, 09:55 AM**

Okay.. So as it's becoming some sort of war between "It's people who stay log", "it's lobby server" and "it's capacity reach" I would like to suggest you to head to Square Enix support for your complains.
If you want to know when window is open, I suggest you to read this topic : http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=8957 which gives informations and is bumped everytime Balmung is open.
If you want to create a character and transfert to Balmung, please do so.

You can accept or not what Blue said, you can prefer what Black Hat sad.. But in any case, it's pointless to fight for something like that and it's not because 10 people more will go offline that it will change anything : People in queue will simply be able to log in.
We're not responsible of Balmung's character creation opening and SE staff is certainly not reading this board. If you want things to change or to be sure of the reason why things are this way : Make a topic on the official board or contact Square Enix. We're only RPer on a friendly board, we're not from SE staff and cannot be 100% sure of the answer nor even doing anything to make things any better.

No Longer Exists · **01-15-2015, 10:02 AM**

I genuinely disagree, Ilwe'ran, with the notion that we cannot do anything about it. We're not responsible, yes, you're absolutely correct.

However, my PSA wasn't meant as a manifesto of expectations, but more of a heads up and a shout out to this very large community on the issue that we now see is affecting our own.

You're correct in that it moves the queue along, which was the original point. Keep the queue moving. In the end, it doesn't matter what Blue or I believe or have to say on the subject one way or another. What matters is that we try, as a community, to do our part. Ultimately, it's all personal choice though and I certainly won't shed tears on the side of the information super-highway while everyone else whips by me. I only attempt to educate. Smile

P.S. - the information super-highway comment was attempted simile with those old "save the earth" commercials where the native american picks up trash and sheds a tear. >.> Big Grin

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Cheers!

Ilwe'ran · **01-15-2015, 10:30 AM**

(01-15-2015, 10:02 AM)Black Hat Wrote: I genuinely disagree, Ilwe'ran, with the notion that we cannot do anything about it. We're not responsible, yes, you're absolutely correct.

Yes, absolutly : What you can do is, as I said, talking on the official board or contacting Square Enix support for your problem. Here it's pointless as it will have no effect at all and might just end to some disagreement which won't change anything aside of your view about some other members of the community.
Really.

(01-15-2015, 10:02 AM)Black Hat Wrote: However, my PSA wasn't meant as a manifesto of expectations, but more of a heads up and a shout out to this very large community on the issue that we now see is affecting our own.

You're correct in that it moves the queue along, which was the original point. Keep the queue moving. In the end, it doesn't matter what Blue or I believe or have to say on the subject one way or another. What matters is that we try, as a community, to do our part. Ultimately, it's all personal choice though and I certainly won't shed tears on the side of the information super-highway while everyone else whips by me. I only attempt to educate.

P.S. - the information super-highway comment was attempted simile with those old "save the earth" commercials where the native american picks up trash and sheds a tear. >.> Â

Cheers!

It doesn't sound like an education anymore when you're pointing finger at people who stay log or not. Educating is letting people accepting or not some information you can give and accepting that others can give some informations as well. Not making some sort of "I'm right, he's wrong" war. But that's only my point of view Smile

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People are free to stay log or not, free to transfert or not, free to do what they want. It's becoming problematic to me to see people having a request and expect people to do what they want because of the "as a community" reason.
As a person, I disagree fiercly with that idea that people should change / do what some other wants because they are on this board. People here are as free as any others to do what they want and when they want.
I'll repeat myself again here, as I'm doing since earlier : If you really want to change something, don't do it here because "as a community" or in a Linkshell or in party or with your friend on skype or with your FC. Do it where someone from SE staff can answer to you by giving you the official informations and maybe helping to change things properly.

PS : I didn't read the big information patch because of the code, the color and I have no idea of the source Smile

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Blue · **01-15-2015, 10:33 AM**

I agree that at this point the argument does not matter in the end as the problem of the servers capacity is there and is not on our end to fix it, I suppose that is mainly what got me to post in the first place. I guess I was a little struck on a nerve by some comments regarding the auto-boot feature and AFK players.

It has happened only once so far, but I still remember pretty clearly that time, while afk on our FC house bed, I came back to find I had received a tell from some anonymous stranger (I guess they entered in the open room while I was away? my AFK icon is deactivated to never show up) around the lines of "lol log off fucker, my gf wants to play."

I get that perhaps while AFK my character is still transferring a certain amount of data, but I strongly repel this hatred people have for afk players. People have reasons to AFK rather than logging off, and they wary from person to person (my own? I like to come back and see what linkshell conversations I've missed while I wasn't there. My friends always talk of interesting stuff, and sometimes even RP there. It's like coming back home to watch your recorded favorite show). Are there lots of afk players? Maybe, but it'll never be the majority of the playerbase. Are they to be blamed/hassled for the server congestion? No, I don't think so.

There are many other factors to point at for the server congestion before turning on AFK players and the necessity to boot them. The servers needing an upgrade for once, and after that, the bots come to mind. I'd prefer to keep an afk player over one who is active but cheating in doing so.

And I guess that's all I really have to say on the topic. Sure it sucks that new players can't get in, and me starting the Balmung Is Open thread was what little I felt we could do to help it; but I'd like to not read as often that I and those who need to AFK as I do are causing a problem.

No Longer Exists · **01-15-2015, 10:39 AM**

I appreciate and understand your perspective, Ilwe'ran.

Also, the source is what you posted to this thread the other day. ^_^

Ilwe'ran · **01-15-2015, 11:04 AM**

(01-15-2015, 10:39 AM)Black Hat Wrote: I appreciate and understand your perspective, Ilwe'ran.

Also, the source is what you posted to this thread the other day. ^_^

The link of what I gave is dated from september 2013.
I believe that the SE staff is conscious of the problem and - if they could do something for now - would have keep the AFK kick if that would change anything.
I could as well spend more time googling for the official answers from SE regarding the lobby server, the AFK and such things for some more recent links.

What I think so far is :
- AFK people cause some problem to others in queue. There is nothing which can prove they are the reason why people cannot create a character, but they are, indeed, one of the reason why people stay in queue.
- Lobby server is a mess (yeah, remember when you DC in dungeon and cannot relog for 20mn 'cause Lobby server error and / or you're still log in game).
- Balmung is not reaching capacity or people wouldn't be able to transfert here.

What solutions we have is :
- Being patient. In any case you have to be patient. No matter what you will do, patience is the key.
- Transfering.
- Waiting for an opening on Balmung.
- Talking to SE support.

That said, I offer a hug to everybody. I completely understand why you are all angry for a reason or another and "as a community" I think the best way to handle things is trying to bump each others when Balmung is open and giving free hugs to the new people coming here â™¥ .

Berrod Armstrong · **01-15-2015, 11:17 AM**

I think, regarding people who want to get in on the server...patience is key.Â

Balmung may not be filled to capacity, but it endures quite a larger load than most others. Because of this, the restrictions and inconveniences will likely be higher. We, as players, have chosen to populate this server en masse -- for the purpose of roleplaying with friends. It is an unofficial server yes -- so no special concessions have been made on those grounds.

Some of us may not want to choose another server instead of waiting. This is fine! A lot of our friends are here, after all! A lot of opportunities to make friends and roleplay, too! However, because so many other people want in on this one server, we're left to deal with the inconveniences that come with it.

The choice is ours whether we wish to deal with the hustle or not -- but we MUST be aware that this is what we're getting into. Sometimes it may be demoralizing, yes, but if it's what you REALLY WANT, keep at it! If you'd be content with rolling elsewhere and trying to find a community or friends there, that's good too.

Also, for anyone who may be subbed and waiting to get into Balmung to play the game. Don't waste your money like that! Roll on another server -while- waiting for your Balmung window! Yes, you may have to redo content if you roll fresh, but that is infinitely better than letting a monthly sub go down the drain. Transferring is an option as well, though not popular because it's viewed as a waste of money. It's more of a waste of money to NOT play at all, than to play on another server before transferring. However! That is an individual choice.

This is the state of our heavily crowded server. This is what it takes to get in. It's unfortunate, but we're the ones who have taken it and made it so, to an extent -- and should accept the reality of what our congregating has done. Mind you, this isn't blame. This is just how it is.Â

Note that all 'you' and 'we' are meant as general.

Naunet · **01-15-2015, 05:44 PM**

(01-15-2015, 08:00 AM)Cavistus Wrote:
(01-15-2015, 07:19 AM)Blue Wrote: make the character on another server and then transfer to Balmung for a fee.

That's it, I'm out. Nope.

Honestly? This is the wisest decision. SE won't choose to get non-paleolithic lobby servers unless people refuse to give them extra money for making it almost impossible to make a character.

Telluride · **01-15-2015, 06:10 PM**

(01-15-2015, 08:50 AM)Kage Wrote: At this point I am seriously considering that it is possible that Balmung is just reaching capacity.

Seeing how SE views the housing situation (they've said they're quite content with what has been given with 2.4) I don't think they are going to do anything such as increase capacities until it is widespread.

FFXIV: Three housing zones, 8 wards each, 60 houses per ward... right? Cost: Millions and Millions of Gil.

LOTRO: in the mid 2000's (yes, nine years ago): Four housing zones. 30+ Instances per zone. 30 houses per instance. Probably MORE, now. Cost: 1 Gold for the basic house. ONE.

Wildstar and TOR: Every. Subscribed. User. Gets. A. House. For. Free. (Two for TOR, if you count your personal ship in TOR as a house.)

Ok, I could discuss Rift and WoW, too, but of the games I have ever played that OFFERED Houses (I left TOR just as they introduced theirs), it was never quite the cause for stress that FFXIV makes it.

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