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Warren Castille Warren Castille Find all posts by this user The Arbiter Posts:5,367 Joined:May 2014 Character:Warren Castille Server:Balmung Reputation: 1,118 Timezone:UTC-5 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #121 03-17-2015, 03:11 PM (03-17-2015, 03:04 PM)Aya Wrote: (03-17-2015, 02:59 PM)Verad Wrote: I get it, really. It would be much better if the Au Ra were used to help provide a transformative, progressive model of character design in verisimilitude by having non-standard, non-idealized body types. I'm sorry that didn't happen. What bothers me is the degree of sexual dimorphism introduced simply to appeal to conventional notions of attractiveness: Males can be beastly.  Females cannot. I don't care for that. The style of the race should make sense as a holistic whole.  It doesn't, and the reason is because they were afraid the player base would reject a beastly female.  I don't see a positive in this, though it is not surprising. Again, the reason they were afraid of that was because the less-traditional races (Roe female, Highlander Female) aren't played nearly as much as the male equivalent. The only people we can be frustrated with regarding SE's decision is the rest of the playerbase (and ourselves, if we don't have femroe or femlander alts). Wiki | The Grindstone 2018 17 | 16 | 15

Dogberry Dogberry Find all posts by this user Ayyyy we want some role play Posts:1,407 Joined:Mar 2010 Character:Dogberry Himalspyr Linkshell:Broken Chairs Server:Balmung Reputation: 275 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #122 03-17-2015, 03:11 PM (03-17-2015, 03:09 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: where's my roe armpit hair SE you fascists How about ANY BODY HAIR AT ALL?! I want to look like I'm wearing a sweater when I unequip my chest slot! No Gods and Precious Few Heroes

Berrod Armstrong Berrod Armstrong Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Buff, Rough n' Scruff. Posts:1,885 Joined:Oct 2013 Character:Berrod Armstrong Linkshell:Astral Agents Server:Balmung Reputation: 457 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #123 03-17-2015, 03:11 PM (03-17-2015, 03:09 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: where's my roe armpit hair SE you fascists A...actually I wouldn't mind body hair options... Berrod Armstrong's Wiki

Flashhelix Flashhelix Find all posts by this user b o y Posts:505 Joined:Dec 2014 Character:Gwannes Oskwell Linkshell:Super Adventure Pals Server:Balmung Reputation: 154 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #124 03-17-2015, 03:12 PM not to mention that people associate "bestial" with "big and burly" and not "like an animal", female Au Ra are very bestial, they're just not burly or big roleplay?

Bryn Bryn Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Penitent Posts:452 Joined:Sep 2013 Character:Brynhilde Wulf Linkshell:Aeon Server:Balmung Reputation: 137 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #125 03-17-2015, 03:12 PM (03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Dogberry Wrote: (03-17-2015, 03:09 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: where's my roe armpit hair SE you fascists How about ANY BODY HAIR AT ALL?! I want to look like I'm wearing a sweater when I unequip my chest slot! Y-yes pls... Why don't dudes get beard options at the Aesthetician!?

Aya Aya Find all posts by this user Barmaid Posts:2,433 Joined:Jan 2014 Character:Aya Foxheart Linkshell:Friends of Ours Server:Balmung Reputation: 439 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #126 03-17-2015, 03:14 PM (03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Again, the reason they were afraid of that was because the less-traditional races (Roe female, Highlander Female) aren't played nearly as much as the male equivalent. The only people we can be frustrated with regarding SE's decision is the rest of the playerbase (and ourselves, if we don't have femroe or femlander alts). This is a dodge.  They made the decision.  That's all that matters in that regard. Honestly, this issue doesn't bother me much.  Mild personal disappointment, an eye-roll over the visuals of the race itself.  Its not going to stop me from enjoying and appreciating SE products, but the amount of dissembling in this discussion is getting silly. For Eorzea! - Grand Company Pin-Ups - Aya Foxheart - Tumblr!

Flickering Ember Flickering Ember Find all posts by this user Puppy dog Roe Posts:422 Joined:Nov 2013 Character:Flickering Ember Linkshell:Aeon Server:Balmung Reputation: 113 Timezone:UTC-5 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #127 03-17-2015, 03:14 PM (03-17-2015, 03:04 PM)Aya Wrote: (03-17-2015, 02:59 PM)Verad Wrote: I get it, really. It would be much better if the Au Ra were used to help provide a transformative, progressive model of character design in verisimilitude by having non-standard, non-idealized body types. I'm sorry that didn't happen. What bothers me is the degree of sexual dimorphism introduced simply to appeal to conventional notions of attractiveness: Males can be beastly.  Females cannot. I don't care for that. The style of the race should make sense as a holistic whole.  It doesn't, and the reason is because they were afraid the player base would reject a beastly female.  I don't see a positive in this, though it is not surprising. I'm just going to quote this for emphasis because Aya is much better at wording things than I am. This is the reason why I don't like the sexual dimorphism in Au Ra.

Warren Castille Warren Castille Find all posts by this user The Arbiter Posts:5,367 Joined:May 2014 Character:Warren Castille Server:Balmung Reputation: 1,118 Timezone:UTC-5 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #128 03-17-2015, 03:15 PM (03-17-2015, 03:14 PM)Aya Wrote: (03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Again, the reason they were afraid of that was because the less-traditional races (Roe female, Highlander Female) aren't played nearly as much as the male equivalent. The only people we can be frustrated with regarding SE's decision is the rest of the playerbase (and ourselves, if we don't have femroe or femlander alts). This is a dodge.  They made the decision.  That's all that matters in that regard. Honestly, this issue doesn't bother me much.  Mild personal disappointment, an eye-roll over the visuals of the race itself.  Its not going to stop me from enjoying and appreciating SE products, but the amount of dissembling in this discussion is getting silly. Blaming them for the decision is also a dodge in this case because they made it based on what we showed them. I like debating, thank you Aya. Wiki | The Grindstone 2018 17 | 16 | 15

Berrod Armstrong Berrod Armstrong Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Buff, Rough n' Scruff. Posts:1,885 Joined:Oct 2013 Character:Berrod Armstrong Linkshell:Astral Agents Server:Balmung Reputation: 457 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #129 03-17-2015, 03:16 PM (03-17-2015, 03:12 PM)Bryn Wrote: (03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Dogberry Wrote: (03-17-2015, 03:09 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: where's my roe armpit hair SE you fascists How about ANY BODY HAIR AT ALL?! I want to look like I'm wearing a sweater when I unequip my chest slot! Y-yes pls... Why don't dudes get beard options at the Aesthetician!? I just want my in game toon to represent Berrod's body hair so I don't have to describe it every time he takes his shirt off. /sob Berrod Armstrong's Wiki

Aya Aya Find all posts by this user Barmaid Posts:2,433 Joined:Jan 2014 Character:Aya Foxheart Linkshell:Friends of Ours Server:Balmung Reputation: 439 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #130 03-17-2015, 03:17 PM (03-17-2015, 03:15 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Blaming them for the decision is also a dodge in this case because they made it based on what we showed them. I like debating, thank you Aya. We didn't make the decision.  Period. SE did.  There's no debate, Warren! For Eorzea! - Grand Company Pin-Ups - Aya Foxheart - Tumblr!

Flashhelix Flashhelix Find all posts by this user b o y Posts:505 Joined:Dec 2014 Character:Gwannes Oskwell Linkshell:Super Adventure Pals Server:Balmung Reputation: 154 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #131 03-17-2015, 03:17 PM (03-17-2015, 03:14 PM)Aya Wrote: (03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Again, the reason they were afraid of that was because the less-traditional races (Roe female, Highlander Female) aren't played nearly as much as the male equivalent. The only people we can be frustrated with regarding SE's decision is the rest of the playerbase (and ourselves, if we don't have femroe or femlander alts). This is a dodge.  They made the decision.  That's all that matters in that regard. Honestly, this issue doesn't bother me much.  Mild personal disappointment, an eye-roll over the visuals of the race itself.  Its not going to stop me from enjoying and appreciating SE products, but the amount of dissembling in this discussion is getting silly. It's not really a dodge if it's the whole reason for the decision roleplay?

K'nahli K'nahli Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website Young Huntress Posts:1,616 Joined:Jul 2013 Character:K'nahli Server:Balmung Reputation: 132 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #132 03-17-2015, 03:17 PM (03-17-2015, 03:00 PM)Flickering Ember Wrote: I agree that not all races should need to have similar height ratios or be devoid of sexual dismorphism. However, I don't know if I would say Au Ra are 'unique' in that way. I think roegadyns actually already have A LOT of sexual dimorphism. I mean, yeah sure, female roegadyns are muscular but compared to a male roegadyn they are actually very, very small in build. The sexual dimorphism is already here with roegadyns. I think it would be unique if the female Au Ra were the larger ones and the male Au Ra the smaller ones. (Which also exists in nature with several species having larger females) Our MMO backgrounds are probably different; in the MMOs I am used to...pretty much all the races were already highly dimorphic so for me, personally, it's not new or unique based on my background. It definitely would be. I was thinking of that only a few minutes ago and I'd certainly be happy to see a reversal with any new race in the future. I don't have a great deal of experience with MMOs to be honest so I'll believe you when you say that. I was speaking explicitly about the height difference though since I thought that was the main issue(with everyone, not just you). Characters: Andre Winter (Hy'ur) / K'nahli Yohko (Miqo'te)

Warren Castille Warren Castille Find all posts by this user The Arbiter Posts:5,367 Joined:May 2014 Character:Warren Castille Server:Balmung Reputation: 1,118 Timezone:UTC-5 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #133 03-17-2015, 03:18 PM (03-17-2015, 03:17 PM)Aya Wrote: (03-17-2015, 03:15 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Blaming them for the decision is also a dodge in this case because they made it based on what we showed them. I like debating, thank you Aya. We didn't make the decision.  Period. SE did.  There's no debate, Warren! They made it based on racial data from the players! There IS a debate! Wiki | The Grindstone 2018 17 | 16 | 15

cuideag cuideag Find all posts by this user Visit this user's website The Successor Posts:701 Joined:Aug 2013 Character:Delial Grimsong Server:Balming Reputation: 191 Timezone:UTC-6 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #134 03-17-2015, 03:18 PM (03-17-2015, 02:58 PM)Bryn Wrote: (03-17-2015, 10:21 AM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: The trick is knowing where to find the Highlander soft side. We all have 'em. Also Show Content Spoiler Just reposting because good golly *lays down on the floor*

SicketySix SicketySix Find all posts by this user The Ala Mhigan Ishgardian Posts:1,703 Joined:Feb 2015 Character:Savona Stormhaven Server:Balmung Reputation: 123 RE: Too much woman to handle? | #135 03-17-2015, 03:18 PM Highlander being too much woman to handle? BLASPHEMY!!!!

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