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Telluride · **10-28-2015, 08:28 AM**

Don't forget the midlander woman at the tent in Costa Del Sol - the one who tells us about her aching feet, and seeks to see the 'color of your coin' before she'll dance for you, because she has children to care for. She is, in fact, quite well clothed in a tunic and long dress.

Costa also has its little dancing troupe, and we see them training under the watchful eye of their picky Roegadyn instructor. It's never really suggested that this group offers anything but dance; the nearby fate with the hired girl suggests that extra services might be available in Costa, but not necessarily that all the dancers there will do so. Also, in the postal quest involving the "bathing dance" we see that the girls just can't handle it - they're certainly not coming across as hardened working girls.

Also, Eorzea needs belly dancing. We've got the outfits for it, now. And while belly dancers are often overtly sexual in their dances, it's because of the style of the dance, not because they are going to offer anything else to the onlooker besides the stage performance.

Sinjo · **10-28-2015, 10:34 AM**

(10-28-2015, 05:02 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote:
(10-28-2015, 04:46 AM)Mamushi Wrote:
(10-28-2015, 04:27 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote: Side question, sexy male dancers when :c.

They're already here.

Oh yeah, 10/10 totally would.

I need to get in on that!

Virella · **10-28-2015, 11:03 AM**

(10-28-2015, 08:28 AM)Telluride Wrote: Don't forget the midlander woman at the tent in Costa Del Sol - the one who tells us about her aching feet, and seeks to see the 'color of your coin' before she'll dance for you, because she has children to care for. She is, in fact, quite well clothed in a tunic and long dress.

If you are speaking about the woman at the tent? If you do the ACN quest, you sort of figure out, for a better lack of terms, is the madam of the whole business there.

Madda · **10-28-2015, 01:57 PM**

(10-28-2015, 08:28 AM)Telluride Wrote: Also, Eorzea needs belly dancing. We've got the outfits for it, now. And while belly dancers are often overtly sexual in their dances, it's because of the style of the dance, not because they are going to offer anything else to the onlooker besides the stage performance.

Sounds pretty interesting enough, but then you find out that there's like 7 different styles of dance that revolve around the term "belly dancing".

That does sound like a really cool concept though. Mind if Madda steals borrows it?

Ryanti · **10-28-2015, 01:58 PM**

(10-28-2015, 08:28 AM)Telluride Wrote: Also, Eorzea needs belly dancing.

I second this. /bellydance pls.

Telluride · **10-28-2015, 07:11 PM**

(10-28-2015, 01:57 PM)Madda Wrote:
(10-28-2015, 08:28 AM)Telluride Wrote: Also, Eorzea needs belly dancing. We've got the outfits for it, now. And while belly dancers are often overtly sexual in their dances, it's because of the style of the dance, not because they are going to offer anything else to the onlooker besides the stage performance.
Sounds pretty interesting enough, but then you find out that there's like 7 different styles of dance that revolve around the term "belly dancing".

That does sound like a really cool concept though. Mind if Madda steals borrows it?

Heck, more than that. There ought to be a dancer's event, or at least a gathering. I have the toon for it. It is a tricky thing to RP right now, but I have seen some nifty macros. SE, moar dances, pls.

Madda · **10-28-2015, 07:27 PM**

(10-28-2015, 07:11 PM)Telluride Wrote:
(10-28-2015, 01:57 PM)Madda Wrote:
(10-28-2015, 08:28 AM)Telluride Wrote: Also, Eorzea needs belly dancing. We've got the outfits for it, now. And while belly dancers are often overtly sexual in their dances, it's because of the style of the dance, not because they are going to offer anything else to the onlooker besides the stage performance.
Sounds pretty interesting enough, but then you find out that there's like 7 different styles of dance that revolve around the term "belly dancing".

That does sound like a really cool concept though. Mind if Madda steals borrows it?

Heck, more than that. There ought to be a dancer's event, or at least a gathering. I have the toon for it. It is a tricky thing to RP right now, but I have seen some nifty macros. SE, moar dances, pls.

Totally! It'd be nice for all the dancers and such to gather and then chat, teach dances to others, network a bit.

Ozma · **10-28-2015, 07:37 PM**

To me Dancers were classes that can dance and cause various debuffs and status effects on enemy units. At the same time I had very hard time trying to counter 2 ladies who were masquerading as a Dancer class by dressing up as them but armed with overpowered abilities like Stop Bracelet/Shadow Stitch that can 1 hit KO anything and Everything.Â

Dancers for me were a horrifying class to see in FFT.

Telluride · **10-29-2015, 11:45 AM**

Interesting and relevant for gamer-dancers:

Aya · **10-29-2015, 01:02 PM**

I find dancing so difficult to represent in text: whether RP or stories, despite my best efforts (I have quite a few stories including it in my threads!).Â To date. Aya has only danced in actual RP a few times.Â I wouldn't mind doing so some more if she could be lured out of her currently sequestered state Smile

(partly due to a rather irrational belief that Ul'Dahn's would never be interested in a non-Miqo'te dancer!)

Madda · **10-29-2015, 01:35 PM**

(10-29-2015, 01:02 PM)Aya Wrote: I wouldn't mind doing so some more if she could be lured out of her currently sequestered state (partly due to a rather irrational belief that Ul'Dahn's would never be interested in a non-Miqo'te dancer!)

Towering does have an interest in Aya after she managed to get her hands on some pinup pics.

If you ever wanna dance for a 7 ulm FemRoe.

PkThunda · **10-29-2015, 01:55 PM**

(10-29-2015, 01:02 PM)Aya Wrote: I find dancing so difficult to represent in text: whether RP or stories, despite my best efforts (I have quite a few stories including it in my threads!).Â To date. Aya has only danced in actual RP a few times.Â I wouldn't mind doing so some more if she could be lured out of her currently sequestered state (partly due to a rather irrational belief that Ul'Dahn's would never be interested in a non-Miqo'te dancer!)

I personally use chain emote macros, tying them together enough to look like dance steps.

C'kayah Polaali · **10-29-2015, 02:01 PM**

I'm amused by the idea that dancers would by necessity also be prostitutes in any era other than the modern one. I'm more amused by the idea that other professions wouldn't be...

Nat came up with the idea of gladiators also being prostitutes a while ago. The idea makes total sense to me. Some muscular, skilled fighter in a light steel subligar in the fighting pits, body sheened with sweat and blood? They'd attract attention.

In our own history, actors have frequently been associated with prostitution. Why not in Eorzea, too?

Likewise musicians.

Likewise witches and sorceresses. Now there's an interesting idea. "There, sir. I've washed your wounds and aetherically healed them. Would you like a happy ending with that?"

McBeefâ„¢ · **10-29-2015, 02:28 PM**

(10-29-2015, 02:01 PM)Setoh Aliapoh Wrote: I'm amused by the idea that dancers would by necessity also be prostitutes in any era other than the modern one. I'm more amused by the idea that other professions wouldn't be...

Nat came up with the idea of gladiators also being prostitutes a while ago. The idea makes total sense to me. Some muscular, skilled fighter in a light steel subligar in the fighting pits, body sheened with sweat and blood? They'd attract attention.

In our own history, actors have frequently been associated with prostitution. Why not in Eorzea, too?

Likewise musicians.

Likewise witches and sorceresses. Now there's an interesting idea. "There, sir. I've washed your wounds and aetherically healed them. Would you like a happy ending with that?"

Historically gladiators were absolutely prostitutes.

They were slaves, but sort of like rock stars. The whole City of rome just watched some guy wreck it in the Arena, and then he stands there among the fallen, his rippling muschles covered in blood and sweat.

You can believe people paid shitloads of money to be the one who would fuck them right after the match. Gladiator training halls also often doubled as brothels.Â

I can imagine Ul'dah being the same way, and we can see how people like 'Franz the Fair' are sexual objects.

Aya · **10-29-2015, 02:40 PM**

(10-29-2015, 02:28 PM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote: Historically gladiators were absolutely prostitutes.

They were slaves, but sort of like rock stars. The whole City of rome just watched some guy wreck it in the Arena, and then he stands there among the fallen, his rippling muschles covered in blood and sweat.

You can believe people paid shitloads of money to be the one who would fuck them right after the match. Gladiator training halls also often doubled as brothels.Â

I can imagine Ul'dah being the same way, and we can see how people like 'Franz the Fair' are sexual objects.

I think that reputation hangs over most lower-paying physical performance professions (i.e all of them!), and those who work intimately with their clientsÂ And reasonably so! Its part of the reality of life for a dancer, etc.Â But, what this means is that every dancer has to deal with the idea that others think they may be prostitutes, it does not mean that every dancer is one.Â its really not much different in the modern world, in these professions sex is often considered a currency, at least many people view it that way.Â

I'm not trying to say: no one should think dancers also sell sex.Â Not that at all.Â That reality is part of the life and culture, and part of what I have always thought effects Aya's life. ICly many people assume that she is one, or has been one, and even her father accused her of it.Â The perception of these things are all tied up together: that doesn't mean that dancers also sell sex, period.Â Just many people will assume that they do.

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