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Riik · **11-05-2015, 01:09 PM**

(11-05-2015, 12:05 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 10:40 AM)Riik Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 10:17 AM)Lan Darklyn Wrote: Aside from your character's age, another bit of trouble you might have is in your demand for an FC to come to your character. Most FCs both OOC and IC seem to value members taking initiative, and that means being willing to approach the FC to apply for membership. After all if the character does not have the courage to step forward and do that, will they have the courage to step forward with the chips are down?

Good luck in your search though!

The thing with this is that I want to get involved with a community such as an FC as it means easier access to RP and events, but my character is someone who doesn't really care about whether he's part of an organisation or not. And it's not really a case of changing things with Riku's personality to fit my OOC need, because I've been RPing him for years so it's already pretty established. That's not to say Riku can't go out and visit an FC for whatever reason (it could be he has a freelance job to deliver something to an FC or whatever); it's just he's not ICly seeking employment (though he wouldn't turn down an offer that seems attractive to him).

On an OOC level, this is me taking an initiative (possibly not the highest level of initiative possible, but I'd still think of it as some form of initiative action). I'm essentially asking FCs if any of them have room for a character like mine. They don't have to do all the work setting up the RP or anything, all I need is to see what kind of FCs would accept my character and once contact is made, things can than be set up on both sides. Easier to write one message down on a public area than send many off to multiple FCs - this isn't job seeking after all, it's RP, and it's meant to be fun XD. It's me getting my name out there for those who are interested, and at the same time, taking names of FCs who are interested.

And even if all the FCs fail to ICly recruit Riku or none have the time for an RP based around the idea, I'd have still made contact with members of the community whom I can then potentially keep in contact with for future RPs.

This is probably going to sound overly-negative and I apologize for that in advance, as well as the potential derail in your thread.

You're not taking an initiative. It's the opposite. You're doing that thing in the Quicksand where someone emotes that they're drinking something and waiting for someone to swoop in and pluck you up for RP adventures. By your own acknowledgement your character doesn't care if he's in an FC or not, yet you're asking other people to track you down ICly and coerce your ambivalent character into joining them.

It isn't a job seeking for you, but it is job recruitment for everyone else. You're asking for multiple groups to spend time making you the center of their attention for even just a short while. All the same, I do hope you find what you're looking for. I just wanted you to be aware of how you potentially sound.

I think the issue is my wording on the opening post, and for that I apologise. I was playing with the whole challenge metaphor and got carried away. I'm going to go through some of the points here in the hope that it prevents further issues.

1) I'm not particularly asking to be tracked down. There are plenty of options where my character can come across an FC himself and then get asked to join. What I was trying to do was to make the point that whilst Riku wouldn't ask to be recruited, I'm on the look out for an RP FC that would accept Riku and be able to ICly recruit him after whatever RP to do so is to take place. All I'm really trying to ask is "who has an RP FC that would suit my character, and would they be willing to do this particular RP structure as the IC part of recruitment?".

2) Is not the point of the making connections forum for advertising oneself for specific RP activity? It's the same as an FC advertising themselves to potential members via shouts etc, right? All I'm trying to do is see who is ok with the criteria for what I'm looking for. I don't think I'd compare it to emoting and waiting for replies for anyone, what I'm more trying to do is the equivalent of /shouting "Anyone up for RP?". If it doesn't look that way, then that's still my fault, I guess, but that's the sort of intention I have >.<

Garalona · **11-05-2015, 01:10 PM**

I feel like the age thing (or rather, how young he appears to be... that's a trope that personally always made me uncomfortable) is gonna be a big hurdle for a lot of people, but since this isn't a character workshop I can't really say much.

I know Pathfinder Society is a very open and accepting bunch, but I think you'd probably still have to approach them.

Vyce · **11-05-2015, 01:14 PM**

(11-05-2015, 12:46 PM)Riik Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 12:32 PM)Vyce Wrote: Also, because they are highlighted points in the OP:

Riku Toiiku is a young lalafell who appears to be about 10-12 years of age. His actual age, however, is a lot more complicated than that.

What does this mean? All Lalafell look incredibly young almost their entire lives. Some wear eye masks to be taken seriously. It isn't complicated. Just say how old he is.

â€¢Riku used to be a dragoon and served Ishgard for a time, but after tiring of civilisation and living in the wild for a year or so, his discipline has become dulled and he has grown in favour of using small blades.

How did he manage to serve Ishgard as a highly appointed individual when they treat non-Elezen like shit? No Lalafell would be allowed to serve Ishgard in any capacity other than a scullery maid. The gates haven't even been open for a year, so he can't have joined since then.

You've also given a Dunesfolk a Plainsfolk name.

1) Lalafell should be able to tell each others' ages, so age appearance does matter between lalafell. As for Riku's actual age, I consider that to be backstory-plot-based spoilers.

2) Race doesn't matter during the dragoon job storyline. If a lalafell can become a dragoon in the job quest, a lalafell can become a dragoon through RP. There is no lore more canon than the game itself. And whilst I'd never claim my character has the same 'specialness' to them as that storyline insinuates, Riku has had the capacity to wield a lance skillfully enough to be picked up by the knights of Coerthas. And as the knights in coerthas serve Ishgard, Riku did by extension. Furthermore, back then, I'd seen plenty of people RPing as dragoons in full-armour. Whether or not this fits the RPC standards nowadays, who knows, but that was the way of things.

3) Riku's name is also related to spoilers. I'm not stupid enough to have not thought about naming stuff after playing FFXIV since... 1.6-ish.

1. Okay. Then his apparent age is not 10 years old. His apparent age is whatever a Lalafell his age looks like. Age appearance isn't measured by how a Hyur looks. You don't look at a pug dog and try to guess its age based on how a human baby looks.

2. Are there any Lalafell in the ranks of the Knights of Coerthas? As far as I know every one of them is an Ishgardian Elezen. Ishgardians view other races as lesser beings.

3. Nobody called you stupid, and the length of time in which you have played is about as relevant as the color of your hair IRL. It is good that you are aware of Lalafell naming mechanics. Some long time players may not know the difference because they simply did not notice the pattern difference. It's an easy mistake. I'd suggest highlighting such a prominent thing and explaining,
"Hey, other people especially Lalafell might notice his name is off. There is a secret behind this that is yet to be revealed!"

-no longer matters- · **11-05-2015, 01:22 PM**

(11-05-2015, 12:46 PM)Riik Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 12:32 PM)Vyce Wrote: Also, because they are highlighted points in the OP:

Riku Toiiku is a young lalafell who appears to be about 10-12 years of age. His actual age, however, is a lot more complicated than that.

What does this mean? All Lalafell look incredibly young almost their entire lives. Some wear eye masks to be taken seriously. It isn't complicated. Just say how old he is.

â€¢Riku used to be a dragoon and served Ishgard for a time, but after tiring of civilisation and living in the wild for a year or so, his discipline has become dulled and he has grown in favour of using small blades.

How did he manage to serve Ishgard as a highly appointed individual when they treat non-Elezen like shit? No Lalafell would be allowed to serve Ishgard in any capacity other than a scullery maid. The gates haven't even been open for a year, so he can't have joined since then.

You've also given a Dunesfolk a Plainsfolk name.

1) Lalafell should be able to tell each others' ages, so age appearance does matter between lalafell. As for Riku's actual age, I consider that to be backstory-plot-based spoilers.

2) Race doesn't matter during the dragoon job storyline. If a lalafell can become a dragoon in the job quest, a lalafell can become a dragoon through RP. There is no lore more canon than the game itself. And whilst I'd never claim my character has the same 'specialness' to them as that storyline insinuates, Riku has had the capacity to wield a lance skillfully enough to be picked up by the knights of Coerthas. And as the knights in coerthas serve Ishgard, Riku did by extension. Furthermore, back then, I'd seen plenty of people RPing as dragoons in full-armour. Whether or not this fits the RPC standards nowadays, who knows, but that was the way of things.

3) Riku's name is also related to spoilers. I'm not stupid enough to have not thought about naming stuff after playing FFXIV since... 1.6-ish.

I'm just going to chime in on one thing here, keep in mind I am in no way telling you what to do, you do what you want and all that rad stuff.

While I'm sure anyone can find any PiS reason to be any class. The lore in Ishgard is pretty Ironclad, There's really little to no way you'd be a Dragoon in service of Ishgard as a Lalafell, hell Hyur's have a hard enough time being taken seriously there. In my opinion I'd cut the Ishgard part off though. Sure you could have somehow become a Dragoon, somehow... but it likely wouldn't be in service to Ishgard.

like I said in the end do what you want, but being a Lalafell in the employ or service of Ishgard (outside of maybe and this is a stretch but it could work. Outposts such as Camp Dragonshead where they do hire outside Sellswords.) is a stretch a lot of people will find very hard to swallow.

Riik · **11-05-2015, 01:23 PM**

(11-05-2015, 01:14 PM)Vyce Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 12:46 PM)Riik Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 12:32 PM)Vyce Wrote: Also, because they are highlighted points in the OP:

Riku Toiiku is a young lalafell who appears to be about 10-12 years of age. His actual age, however, is a lot more complicated than that.

What does this mean? All Lalafell look incredibly young almost their entire lives. Some wear eye masks to be taken seriously. It isn't complicated. Just say how old he is.

â€¢Riku used to be a dragoon and served Ishgard for a time, but after tiring of civilisation and living in the wild for a year or so, his discipline has become dulled and he has grown in favour of using small blades.

How did he manage to serve Ishgard as a highly appointed individual when they treat non-Elezen like shit? No Lalafell would be allowed to serve Ishgard in any capacity other than a scullery maid. The gates haven't even been open for a year, so he can't have joined since then.

You've also given a Dunesfolk a Plainsfolk name.

1) Lalafell should be able to tell each others' ages, so age appearance does matter between lalafell. As for Riku's actual age, I consider that to be backstory-plot-based spoilers.

2) Race doesn't matter during the dragoon job storyline. If a lalafell can become a dragoon in the job quest, a lalafell can become a dragoon through RP. There is no lore more canon than the game itself. And whilst I'd never claim my character has the same 'specialness' to them as that storyline insinuates, Riku has had the capacity to wield a lance skillfully enough to be picked up by the knights of Coerthas. And as the knights in coerthas serve Ishgard, Riku did by extension. Furthermore, back then, I'd seen plenty of people RPing as dragoons in full-armour. Whether or not this fits the RPC standards nowadays, who knows, but that was the way of things.

3) Riku's name is also related to spoilers. I'm not stupid enough to have not thought about naming stuff after playing FFXIV since... 1.6-ish.

1. Okay. Then his apparent age is not 10 years old. His apparent age is whatever a Lalafell his age looks like. Age appearance isn't measured by how a Hyur looks. You don't look at a pug dog and try to guess its age based on how a human baby looks.

2. Are there any Lalafell in the ranks of the Knights of Coerthas? As far as I know every one of them is an Ishgardian Elezen. Ishgardians view other races as lesser beings.

3. Nobody called you stupid, and the length of time in which you have played is about as relevant as the color of your hair IRL. It is good that you are aware of Lalafell naming mechanics. Some long time players may not know the difference because they simply did not notice the pattern difference. It's an easy mistake. I'd suggest highlighting such a prominent thing and explaining,
"Hey, other people especially Lalafell might notice his name is off. There is a secret behind this that is yet to be revealed!"

Ok so...

1) I don't recall saying anything about looking like a 10-year-old hyur. A 10-year-old lalafell still looks like a 10-year-old lalafell.

2) I don't think it matters what the knights are race-wise. The fact is, in the job quest, it's still possible for a Lalafell to be a dragoon. And neither the player (if said player is a lala) nor Tataru is treated particularly lesserly (not a word, I know) for being a lalafell than any other race in the heavensward quest. Fact is, just like with the main quest, if someone shows they have the capability to help ishgard, then the knights would have nothing against having their help. Of course, it takes quite a while to persuade the coerthans that a non-ishgardian is worthy of such treatment, but I never said Riku obtaining his position was a walk in the park,

3) Ok, I admit I lost it a little there... >.<... I wasn't trying to insinuate anyone was calling me stupid, I was just feeling overly defensive and went a bit too far. For that, I apologise. But really, for the case of seeing which FCs would accept my character, the name really isn't a factor, so I didn't feel the need to explain it.

Vyce · **11-05-2015, 01:35 PM**

You're missing the key point in that THE DRAGOON JOB QUEST DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ISHGARDIAN SOLDIER.

A Gridanian Dragoon is based on a type of Ishgardian Lancer that specializes in taking down dragons. Based on.

It does not get you acceptance into Ishgardian society, or qualify you as a Dragoon in their eyes because you were not trained IN Ishgard. You are a farce as far as they are concerned. Race matters entirely in Ishgard. Ishgard is not an open and accepting place. They have racism, elitism, sexism, and religious extremism.

Riik · **11-05-2015, 01:42 PM**

(11-05-2015, 01:35 PM)Vyce Wrote: You're missing the key point in that THE DRAGOON JOB QUEST DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ISHGARDIAN SOLDIER.

A Gridanian Dragoon is based on a type of Ishgardian Lancer that specializes in taking down dragons. Based on.

It does not get you acceptance into Ishgardian society, or qualify you as a Dragoon in their eyes because you were not trained IN Ishgard. You are a farce as far as they are concerned. Race matters entirely in Ishgard. Ishgard is not an open and accepting place. They have racism, elitism, sexism, and religious extremism.

One can serve a nation without being their soldier. Like in the main scenario quests, the player does plenty of work for the Coerthan knights, thereby 'serving' them. Riku served Ishgard by proxy, but still served Ishgard. I never said he was an Ishgardian soldier, I never said he was accepted into Ishgardian society.

Secondly, whilst I may have skimmed through a lot of the job quest dialogue, I saw no mention of the player being a Gridanian dragoon in the job quest. Granted, I reached 50 dragoon BEFORE 2.0 so things may have changed in the quest. Perhaps I missed something or perhaps that was something added in after ARR, whatever the case, Riku was still a dragoon, and he still served Ishgard, so my opening post does not change.

Virella · **11-05-2015, 01:50 PM**

(11-05-2015, 01:42 PM)Riik Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 01:35 PM)Vyce Wrote: You're missing the key point in that THE DRAGOON JOB QUEST DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ISHGARDIAN SOLDIER.

A Gridanian Dragoon is based on a type of Ishgardian Lancer that specializes in taking down dragons. Based on.

It does not get you acceptance into Ishgardian society, or qualify you as a Dragoon in their eyes because you were not trained IN Ishgard. You are a farce as far as they are concerned. Race matters entirely in Ishgard. Ishgard is not an open and accepting place. They have racism, elitism, sexism, and religious extremism.

One can serve a nation without being their soldier. Like in the main scenario quests, the player does plenty of work for the Coerthan knights, thereby 'serving' them. Riku served Ishgard by proxy, but still served Ishgard. I never said he was an Ishgardian soldier, I never said he was accepted into Ishgardian society.

Secondly, whilst I may have skimmed through a lot of the job quest dialogue, I saw no mention of the player being a Gridanian dragoon in the job quest. Granted, I reached 50 dragoon BEFORE 2.0 so things may have changed in the quest. Perhaps I missed something or perhaps that was something added in after ARR, whatever the case, Riku was still a dragoon, and he still served Ishgard, so my opening post does not change.

Being the WoL =/= Player character, unless you roleplay the Warrior of Light.

That said.

Dragoons are being trained from their childhood, they in specific seek out orphans who hate the Dravanian Horde with a passion/got nothing to lose any more to become Dragoons. The WoL is a special snowflake who, as with most jobs, skipped trough years and years of training within a heartbeat and does not represent the job's true nature of skill and dedication needed.

Surely non-Ishgardians can become Ishgardian, look at Lucia for example. But that takes years on end, and on top of that, I cannot see Dragoons being simply allowed to leave. Hells, I cannot see any Ishgardian being allowed to leave and slack off onto their Holy War, as levequests showed us off that people who cba to do shit will find their family in trouble for it. (However very few people keep this in mind.)

... Ishgard isn't as nice, polite, flowery, knightly, heroic as people make it out to be. It's a shithole filled with racism, classicism, xenophobes, sexism and all sorts of other terrible things as Vyce pointed out.

***RiniKett*** · **11-05-2015, 01:50 PM**

I can see this thread getting toxic fast, but there was something I read a few months ago that has stuck with me when deciding how to approach RP. It was something along the lines of, and this is me paraphrasing:

"A lot of RPers like to make the strong silent type that doesn't approach others and has a tragic backstory that is awesome to you, but keep in mind that it might not make others RP with you. It's okay if you want to be that character, but you need a hook to make people interact."

I took this to heart as it is true. We can make whatever character we want and we have the freedom to do that. He has the freedom to make whatever type of Dragoon he wants to claim, BUT everyone else also has the right to not include themselves in that RP. Thus, I have always took into account what would be the most approachable solution to a character in order to mesh with others easily. Even though a character is silent, sometimes you need to push them a bit OOCly, even it breaks character, to have a character build relationships to even have interaction.

Either way, I hope the best to all parties. Wish I could find that post. I think it was a "How to get started in RP" post by a moderator. Still, really good stuff to keep in mind.

-no longer matters- · **11-05-2015, 01:54 PM**

(11-05-2015, 01:42 PM)Riik Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 01:35 PM)Vyce Wrote: You're missing the key point in that THE DRAGOON JOB QUEST DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ISHGARDIAN SOLDIER.

A Gridanian Dragoon is based on a type of Ishgardian Lancer that specializes in taking down dragons. Based on.

It does not get you acceptance into Ishgardian society, or qualify you as a Dragoon in their eyes because you were not trained IN Ishgard. You are a farce as far as they are concerned. Race matters entirely in Ishgard. Ishgard is not an open and accepting place. They have racism, elitism, sexism, and religious extremism.

One can serve a nation without being their soldier. Like in the main scenario quests, the player does plenty of work for the Coerthan knights, thereby 'serving' them. Riku served Ishgard by proxy, but still served Ishgard. I never said he was an Ishgardian soldier, I never said he was accepted into Ishgardian society.

Secondly, whilst I may have skimmed through a lot of the job quest dialogue, I saw no mention of the player being a Gridanian dragoon in the job quest. Granted, I reached 50 dragoon BEFORE 2.0 so things may have changed in the quest. Perhaps I missed something or perhaps that was something added in after ARR, whatever the case, Riku was still a dragoon, and he still served Ishgard, so my opening post does not change.

The player (Warrior Of Light) is a special case as is Tataru, they are guests of one of the top noble houses, and The player is a renown hero that helped stopped the Dravians from getting into Ishgard and destroying it.

They do not employ or accept outsiders in Ishgard just because "reasons" look around the city, talk to npcs that have flavor text. Ishgard is an extremely xenophobic closed off society.Â

At the end of the day like I said in an earlier post you do what you want people are trying t give you suggestions to help you find people that will accept you easier, a child "looking" Lalafell claiming to have served Ishgard is going to be something a lot of people are going to have a very hard time accepting.

No one is telling you this to hurt you or berate you, they're trying to help you.

Vyce · **11-05-2015, 01:55 PM**

Everything we are telling you right now is important when it comes to finding a guild. Part of applying to join an FC is Marketing your Character.

This does not mean you have to make your character the way everyone tells you to. You can do whatever fills your fancy.

What you do have to do is market your character in a way that will make a person reading your application want to accept you, or haveÂ a reason to accept you.

This means filling holes. If there is something particularly important that makes your character nonstandard or special, you can't just state the fact and move on. You need to elaborate just a little bit to provide the avenues with which others can work.

TL;DR

There are two ways to market yourself for an FC:

1. Tailor your character to suit their needs and expectations.

or

2. Provide the information the leaders need to know so they can justify accepting your character. This doesn't mean spoiling secrets.

Warren Castille · **11-05-2015, 01:59 PM**

(11-05-2015, 01:50 PM)RiniKett Wrote: I can see this thread getting toxic fast, but there was something I read a few months ago that has stuck with me when deciding how to approach RP. It was something along the lines of, and this is me paraphrasing:

"A lot of RPers like to make the strong silent type that doesn't approach others and has a tragic backstory that is awesome to you, but keep in mind that it might not make others RP with you. It's okay if you want to be that character, but you need a hook to make people interact."

I took this to heart as it is true. We can make whatever character we want and we have the freedom to do that. He has the freedom to make whatever type of Dragoon he wants to claim, BUT everyone else also has the right to not include themselves in that RP. Thus, I have always took into account what would be the most approachable solution to a character in order to mesh with others easily. Even though a character is silent, sometimes you need to push them a bit OOCly, even it breaks character, to have a character build relationships to even have interaction.

Either way, I hope the best to all parties. Wish I could find that post. I think it was a "How to get started in RP" post by a moderator. Still, really good stuff to keep in mind.

This sort of thing happens too frequently around here, to be honest. Lots of people doing a similar thing to "Okay, I'm here! Come get me!" without actually trying to engage people, instead wanting to be engaged.

Related, there was a rash of "Why doesn't anyone RP with me" posts that all basically broke down to "I never approach anyone, my character is shy and walled-off and they're hard to get along with, but how come no one wants to invest hours into cracking my shell?"

It's good to have hooks, but being approachable (or better, doing the approaching!) is always going to get you more connections than throwing open your arms and screaming HERE I AM.

Also, clarifications: Lalafell are predominant in Eorzea, especially Thanalan. Saying people can't tell how old he is is insulting to the mixed culture going on.

Ishgard's not racist, they're xenophobic. Subtle but distinct differences.

It's okay to trust people not to metagame and reveal secret backstory stuff if it helps work towards connecting with the character in the long term. Your wiki has a curious description for age, and I don't have any idea how to relate to your character as a result.?

Edit: Despite the inferred tone of some of these statements in the thread, I'm 78% sure people are just wanting to help. We're just sometimes very, very bad at it nicely.

Riik · **11-05-2015, 02:23 PM**

(11-05-2015, 01:59 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(11-05-2015, 01:50 PM)RiniKett Wrote: I can see this thread getting toxic fast, but there was something I read a few months ago that has stuck with me when deciding how to approach RP. It was something along the lines of, and this is me paraphrasing:

"A lot of RPers like to make the strong silent type that doesn't approach others and has a tragic backstory that is awesome to you, but keep in mind that it might not make others RP with you. It's okay if you want to be that character, but you need a hook to make people interact."

I took this to heart as it is true. We can make whatever character we want and we have the freedom to do that. He has the freedom to make whatever type of Dragoon he wants to claim, BUT everyone else also has the right to not include themselves in that RP. Thus, I have always took into account what would be the most approachable solution to a character in order to mesh with others easily. Even though a character is silent, sometimes you need to push them a bit OOCly, even it breaks character, to have a character build relationships to even have interaction.

Either way, I hope the best to all parties. Wish I could find that post. I think it was a "How to get started in RP" post by a moderator. Still, really good stuff to keep in mind.

This sort of thing happens too frequently around here, to be honest. Lots of people doing a similar thing to "Okay, I'm here! Come get me!" without actually trying to engage people, instead wanting to be engaged.

Related, there was a rash of "Why doesn't anyone RP with me" posts that all basically broke down to "I never approach anyone, my character is shy and walled-off and they're hard to get along with, but how come no one wants to invest hours into cracking my shell?"

It's good to have hooks, but being approachable (or better, doing the approaching!) is always going to get you more connections than throwing open your arms and screaming HERE I AM.

Also, clarifications: Lalafell are predominant in Eorzea, especially Thanalan. Saying people can't tell how old he is is insulting to the mixed culture going on.

Ishgard's not racist, they're xenophobic. Subtle but distinct differences.

It's okay to trust people not to metagame and reveal secret backstory stuff if it helps work towards connecting with the character in the long term. Your wiki has a curious description for age, and I don't have any idea how to relate to your character as a result.?

Edit: Despite the inferred tone of some of these statements in the thread, I'm 78% sure people are just wanting to help. We're just sometimes very, very bad at it nicely.

I think I see the point to this, but even so, I still think I'm being misunderstood in terms of what I'm trying to achieve with his thread, but I'm not going to argue if that's the way I'm coming across.

As for my wiki, I'm actually part-way-through re-writing it, mostly editing out parts that were added on a whim (heck I went through a whole nudism phase at some point that I should really edit out of my character wiki, given that I've matured past that and it no longer applies >.<) or segments that make little sense. Also if I can figure a way to spoiler box stuff or something in a way that makes certain spoiler information optional, then I'll add such stuff in, although I'm sorta worried that it might seem a little... weird.

Aaron · **11-05-2015, 02:29 PM**

Lol that 78% though.

Anyway my two cents is, you don't have to -outright- throw yourself at an FC, but you could show -some- interest.

An example being how I did it, Aaron IC will not go around looking for an FC, but he was brought into Agents FC because of him initially being invited by Berrod as outside help and after a couple interactions, he just sorta became a member after going "Yo got a spare bed I can use?" and bam, now he's the FC's lazy bastard. Lol.

So to reiterate , Riku can -still- put himself out there for recruitment without actually saying he wants a FC. It's all in how you do it.

If that doesn't work you could always try making your own . I would have if I wasn't so bad with gil ;_; buying glamors and shit.

Riik · **11-05-2015, 02:42 PM**

(11-05-2015, 02:29 PM)Aaron Wrote: Lol that 78% though.

Anyway my two cents is, you don't have to -outright- throw yourself at an FC, but you could show -some- interest.

An example being how I did it, Aaron IC will not go around looking for an FC, but he was brought into Agents FC because of him initially being invited by Berrod as outside help and after a couple interactions, he just sorta became a member after going "Yo got a spare bed I can use?" and bam, now he's the FC's lazy bastard. Lol.

So to reiterate , Riku can -still- put himself out there for recruitment without actually saying he wants a FC. It's all in how you do it.

If that doesn't work you could always try making your own . I would have if I wasn't so bad with gil ;_; buying glamors and shit.

I was planning to use this thread as a sorta initial tool to see what options are out there for 1) my character and 2) the IC requirements for Riku to join an FC, and then look into FCs from there. Also, it's only one aspect of the whole thing, as I have also been discussing with FC recruiters through tells as well. I think though that the whole challenge metaphor thing might have been a bad idea on my part though, as it makes it look like I'm using this thread as the sole method for finding FCs.

I guess that's the way things go though. Perhaps, I should have just kept my mouth shut and got on with things in private >.<

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