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***Teadrinker*** · **11-25-2015, 09:06 PM**

I'm starting to get messages from some old WoW buddies asking me if I'm coming back for Legion, will I raid with them, they still can't find anyone to replace me, etc.

My answer will be the same as it has been since WotLK.

Pay for my sub and I will heal for joo.

But even when they did during WoD I couldn't stay in the game it was so damn bad. PvP hadn't seen that level of imbalance since Season 4 resto druids. Literally worse than S4 restos.

Ugh. Anytime I play WoW I feel like I'm getting into a car that has the body of a Ferrari but the engine is a rusted piece of crap no one cares about anymore.

Ozma · **11-25-2015, 09:18 PM**

Still a very active PvPer and has been since BC.Â

I won't deny it, WoD was the worst possible expansion released so far and this is quite easily summarized by a youtuber I follow Heelsvsbabyface.Â

[youtube]a4g-qh65Hn4[/youtube]

As for what I still love about the game, I think I still genuinely enjoy the PvP in WoW compared to any other MMO's PvP. PvP in FFXIV has never been my cup of tea. Introducing PvP only skills for all classes that can only be used in PvP situation still confuse the crap out of me haha. I'm not sure what to say other than comparing it to buying a Lv90 boost and wondering what all the new skills do and when to use it effectively. That and I feel like PvP is largely dominated by SMN. Imagine going against a Affliction Warlock who has Sprint on relatively short cooldown and it doesn't use any resources compared to melee who requires TP for their abilities. Now imagine there are a whole group of them on the other team and you play a melee... it's a daunting task to even begin imagining about. Oh and did I mention as a player who is playing from NZ my average ping is sitting at 450~600ms? PvP is just beyond something I can enjoy.Â

But even if my ping was good, I have to wonder if I would enjoy it. Considering those nodes pop up very randomly and trying to organize pugs to fight for a common goal aka the objective seems harder than trying to organize relatively smaller group of pugs to do objectives on WoW,.... It's a real mess lol.Â

I'm also not sure how other Ninjas use Stealth "Practically" in pvp. Movement speed is so slow that trying to catch a fleeing enemy is near impossible while stealthed.Â

In every way I'm thoroughly enjoying my Rogue's playstyle more than I do as a Ninja on FFXIV which feels clunky... until I meet a geared feral druid in arenas lol.Â

Every game has it's faults and as far as PvP goes I think WoW is still more enjoyable in that aspect, granted FFXIV was never really focused on PVP contents as much as PvE

As for Legion?

With the kind of crap Blizzard pulled for WoD? Haha I don't think so. They overhyped literally EVERYTHING about WoD and cut like 90% content they've mentioned they'll be bringing to WoD. WoD turned out to be an Expansion that was "designed" to be a prologue for Legion, more or less what it was. Only thing they introduced in this expansion was a Selfie Cam... and several dozen recolors of the dire wolf mount and boar mounts. Oh and lest I forget store only mounts lol... Legion may look somewhat promising but there's no guarantee they won't pull the same crap with Legion as they did with WoD. Who knows? They might not even introduce Demon Hunters and call it a early April Fools for all we know, which would be amusing and I honestly won't be surprised if they did.

***Teadrinker*** · **11-25-2015, 09:20 PM**

(11-25-2015, 09:18 PM)Ozma Wrote: Still a very active PvPer and has been since BC.Â

I won't deny it, WoD was the worst possible expansion released so far and this is quite easily summarized by a youtuber I follow Heelsvsbabyface.Â

As for what I still love about the game, I think I still genuinely enjoy the PvP in WoW compared to any other MMO's PvP. PvP in FFXIV has never been my cup of tea. Introducing PvP only skills for all classes that can only be used in PvP situation still confuse the crap out of me haha. I'm not sure what to say other than comparing it to buying a Lv90 boost and wondering what all the new skills do and when to use it effectively. That and I feel like PvP is largely dominated by SMN. Imagine going against a Affliction Warlock who has Sprint on relatively short cooldown and it doesn't use any resources compared to melee who requires TP for their abilities. Now imagine there are a whole group of them on the other team and you play a melee... it's a daunting task to even begin imagining about. Oh and did I mention as a player who is playing from NZ my average ping is sitting at 450~600ms? PvP is just beyond something I can enjoy.Â

But even if my ping was good, I have to wonder if I would enjoy it. Considering those nodes pop up very randomly and trying to organize pugs to fight for a common goal aka the objective seems harder than trying to organize relatively smaller group of pugs to do objectives on WoW,.... It's a real mess lol.Â

I'm also not sure how other Ninjas use Stealth "Practically" in pvp. Movement speed is so slow that trying to catch a fleeing enemy is near impossible while stealthed.Â

In every way I'm thoroughly enjoying my Rogue's playstyle more than I do as a Ninja on FFXIV which feels clunky... until I meet a geared feral druid in arenas lol.Â

Every game has it's faults and as far as PvP goes I think WoW is still more enjoyable in that aspect, granted FFXIV was never really focused on PVP contents as much as PvE

Did they ever fix the damn botting issue?

PvP was just infiltrated with .01 second interrupt bots I can't remember wtf the program was called.

Ozma · **11-25-2015, 09:29 PM**

(11-25-2015, 09:20 PM)Teadrinker Wrote:
(11-25-2015, 09:18 PM)Ozma Wrote: Still a very active PvPer and has been since BC.Â

I won't deny it, WoD was the worst possible expansion released so far and this is quite easily summarized by a youtuber I follow Heelsvsbabyface.Â

As for what I still love about the game, I think I still genuinely enjoy the PvP in WoW compared to any other MMO's PvP. PvP in FFXIV has never been my cup of tea. Introducing PvP only skills for all classes that can only be used in PvP situation still confuse the crap out of me haha. I'm not sure what to say other than comparing it to buying a Lv90 boost and wondering what all the new skills do and when to use it effectively. That and I feel like PvP is largely dominated by SMN. Imagine going against a Affliction Warlock who has Sprint on relatively short cooldown and it doesn't use any resources compared to melee who requires TP for their abilities. Now imagine there are a whole group of them on the other team and you play a melee... it's a daunting task to even begin imagining about. Oh and did I mention as a player who is playing from NZ my average ping is sitting at 450~600ms? PvP is just beyond something I can enjoy.Â

But even if my ping was good, I have to wonder if I would enjoy it. Considering those nodes pop up very randomly and trying to organize pugs to fight for a common goal aka the objective seems harder than trying to organize relatively smaller group of pugs to do objectives on WoW,.... It's a real mess lol.Â

I'm also not sure how other Ninjas use Stealth "Practically" in pvp. Movement speed is so slow that trying to catch a fleeing enemy is near impossible while stealthed.Â

In every way I'm thoroughly enjoying my Rogue's playstyle more than I do as a Ninja on FFXIV which feels clunky... until I meet a geared feral druid in arenas lol.Â

Every game has it's faults and as far as PvP goes I think WoW is still more enjoyable in that aspect, granted FFXIV was never really focused on PVP contents as much as PvE

Did they ever fix the damn botting issue?

PvP was just infiltrated with .01 second interrupt bots I can't remember wtf the program was called.

Bots? I think you have the term mixed up with something else. In that regard though, is there honestly a MMORPG that doesn't have 3rd party programs invented by people to cheat or give them an upper hand? I'm sure if you looked through ownedcore there will be more information about that and more regarding the "bots" you mentioned. Though to be honest it won't surprise me if there were bots on FFXIV too.

Parth Makeo · **11-25-2015, 09:33 PM**

(11-25-2015, 09:18 PM)Ozma Wrote: Only thing they introduced in this expansion was a Selfie Cam... and several dozen recolors of the dire wolf mount and boar mounts. Oh and lest I forget store only mounts lol.

The Xpac has also given us the Heirloom Tab to help manage them better, Wowtoken for those who don't want to pay 15$ a month and instead pay with ingame gold, A better catch up mechanic for crafting professions (Well half implemented because professions became so null a few months into WOD but still 1-600 leveling was simplified), Twitter integration (which despite it being meh, I had fun using now and then when something happened or i get a new mount. Feels good for me at least), Timewalking (Which many hate but i rather enjoyed a lot to do) and was the first expansion to give us updated models.

Of course those are just 'Updates' and not additions but i like to see the silver lining in most games that i play. But WOD still was a major disappointment. It's why i am super cautious on the beta info for Legion and what not. I still raid and currently on Mythic Gorfiend 66% so i will most likely continue to raid even in next xpac.

***Teadrinker*** · **11-25-2015, 09:36 PM**

(11-25-2015, 09:29 PM)Ozma Wrote:
(11-25-2015, 09:20 PM)Teadrinker Wrote:
(11-25-2015, 09:18 PM)Ozma Wrote: Still a very active PvPer and has been since BC.Â

I won't deny it, WoD was the worst possible expansion released so far and this is quite easily summarized by a youtuber I follow Heelsvsbabyface.Â

As for what I still love about the game, I think I still genuinely enjoy the PvP in WoW compared to any other MMO's PvP. PvP in FFXIV has never been my cup of tea. Introducing PvP only skills for all classes that can only be used in PvP situation still confuse the crap out of me haha. I'm not sure what to say other than comparing it to buying a Lv90 boost and wondering what all the new skills do and when to use it effectively. That and I feel like PvP is largely dominated by SMN. Imagine going against a Affliction Warlock who has Sprint on relatively short cooldown and it doesn't use any resources compared to melee who requires TP for their abilities. Now imagine there are a whole group of them on the other team and you play a melee... it's a daunting task to even begin imagining about. Oh and did I mention as a player who is playing from NZ my average ping is sitting at 450~600ms? PvP is just beyond something I can enjoy.Â

But even if my ping was good, I have to wonder if I would enjoy it. Considering those nodes pop up very randomly and trying to organize pugs to fight for a common goal aka the objective seems harder than trying to organize relatively smaller group of pugs to do objectives on WoW,.... It's a real mess lol.Â

I'm also not sure how other Ninjas use Stealth "Practically" in pvp. Movement speed is so slow that trying to catch a fleeing enemy is near impossible while stealthed.Â

In every way I'm thoroughly enjoying my Rogue's playstyle more than I do as a Ninja on FFXIV which feels clunky... until I meet a geared feral druid in arenas lol.Â

Every game has it's faults and as far as PvP goes I think WoW is still more enjoyable in that aspect, granted FFXIV was never really focused on PVP contents as much as PvE

Did they ever fix the damn botting issue?

PvP was just infiltrated with .01 second interrupt bots I can't remember wtf the program was called.

Bots? I think you have the term mixed up with something else. In that regard though, is there honestly a MMORPG that doesn't have 3rd party programs invented by people to cheat or give them an upper hand? I'm sure if you looked through ownedcore there will be more information about that and more regarding the "bots" you mentioned. Though to be honest it won't surprise me if there were bots on FFXIV too.

Nah, I found an article on it.

Honorbuddy was the program.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2095986/world-o...onorbuddy/

They were impossible to juke because they could literally interrupt you at .1 seconds so no matter how hard you could outplay a human the bot would get you.

Only a 6th month ban, eh? They must be clamoring for those subs. And they apparently made Warden not give a crap about these bots either.

Yep. Trash, cash cow game.....sadly.

Syf · **11-25-2015, 09:38 PM**

(11-25-2015, 09:20 PM)Teadrinker Wrote:
(11-25-2015, 09:18 PM)Ozma Wrote: Still a very active PvPer and has been since BC.Â

I won't deny it, WoD was the worst possible expansion released so far and this is quite easily summarized by a youtuber I follow Heelsvsbabyface.Â

As for what I still love about the game, I think I still genuinely enjoy the PvP in WoW compared to any other MMO's PvP. PvP in FFXIV has never been my cup of tea. Introducing PvP only skills for all classes that can only be used in PvP situation still confuse the crap out of me haha. I'm not sure what to say other than comparing it to buying a Lv90 boost and wondering what all the new skills do and when to use it effectively. That and I feel like PvP is largely dominated by SMN. Imagine going against a Affliction Warlock who has Sprint on relatively short cooldown and it doesn't use any resources compared to melee who requires TP for their abilities. Now imagine there are a whole group of them on the other team and you play a melee... it's a daunting task to even begin imagining about. Oh and did I mention as a player who is playing from NZ my average ping is sitting at 450~600ms? PvP is just beyond something I can enjoy.Â

But even if my ping was good, I have to wonder if I would enjoy it. Considering those nodes pop up very randomly and trying to organize pugs to fight for a common goal aka the objective seems harder than trying to organize relatively smaller group of pugs to do objectives on WoW,.... It's a real mess lol.Â

I'm also not sure how other Ninjas use Stealth "Practically" in pvp. Movement speed is so slow that trying to catch a fleeing enemy is near impossible while stealthed.Â

In every way I'm thoroughly enjoying my Rogue's playstyle more than I do as a Ninja on FFXIV which feels clunky... until I meet a geared feral druid in arenas lol.Â

Every game has it's faults and as far as PvP goes I think WoW is still more enjoyable in that aspect, granted FFXIV was never really focused on PVP contents as much as PvE

Did they ever fix the damn botting issue?

PvP was just infiltrated with .01 second interrupt bots I can't remember wtf the program was called.

Honorbuddy. Honestly WoD was a total mess for PvE and PvP. Honor grinding for PVP was a total nightmare. For example.

The game other than that was raid or raid, dungeons become obsolete quickly and after that you have four versions of the same raids. It's so easy and empty until you hit the barrier in heroic or mythic. A lot of content that was promised was cut, and the content that was delivered in patches was not good at all, or entirely pointless.

Ozma · **11-25-2015, 09:38 PM**

(11-25-2015, 09:33 PM)Parth Makeo Wrote:
(11-25-2015, 09:18 PM)Ozma Wrote: Only thing they introduced in this expansion was a Selfie Cam... and several dozen recolors of the dire wolf mount and boar mounts. Oh and lest I forget store only mounts lol.
The Xpac has also given us the Heirloom Tab to help manage them better, Wowtoken for those who don't want to pay 15$ a month and instead pay with ingame gold, A better catch up mechanic for crafting professions (Well half implemented because professions became so null a few months into WOD but still 1-600 leveling was simplified), Twitter integration (which despite it being meh, I had fun using now and then when something happened or i get a new mount. Feels good for me at least), Timewalking (Which many hate but i rather enjoyed a lot to do) and was the first expansion to give us updated models.

Of course those are just 'Updates' and not additions but i like to see the silver lining in most games that i play. But WOD still was a major disappointment. It's why i am super cautious on the beta info for Legion and what not. I still raid and currently on Mythic Gorfiend 66% so i will most likely continue to raid even in next xpac.

I'm convinced it won't be long before they integrate Marriage system in WoW. In the mind of Activision they're probably thinking... Should we work on playable content? Spend millions of dollars creating enjoyable PvE/PvP content without turning them into mindless Apexis Grinds? No that takes genuine effort, instead we should spend our resources on the Marriage System.

Parth Makeo · **11-25-2015, 09:43 PM**

(11-25-2015, 09:38 PM)Syf Wrote: The game other than that was raid or raid, dungeons become obsolete quickly and after that you have four versions of the same raids. It's so easy and empty until you hit the barrier in heroic or mythic. A lot of content that was promised was cut, and the content that was delivered in patches was not good at all, or entirely pointless.

Yep...WOD in a nutshell.Â
funny thing... They reintroduced Valor for item upgrades now along with Mythic dungeons having some chance to drop upwards of Ilevel 725 gear (about heroic Hellfire Citadel level loot) but it's not common. Highest Ilevel i got out of them was 720 but even then you don't get valor through raiding. Only LFRs, Weekly quest minus pet battle, Daily heroic and all 8 Mythics. Forcing raiders to do old and outdated content for points.

Again i am still having fun but it's not the same as when it was Cata pre Dragonsoul and nerf to Heroic Dungeons or even Mists (BTW i adored mists. Only reason people hated it was the first few months with gear locked behind dailies. I swear to you if they didn't lock the gear behind rep, people wouldn't of berate the game that much. And story was fine and dandy. And i've played since Warcraft 2 released.)
Half the time i sit on my moose in Stormwind waiting for ques to pop or friends to come on for anything.

Parth Makeo · **11-25-2015, 09:47 PM**

(11-25-2015, 09:38 PM)Ozma Wrote:
(11-25-2015, 09:33 PM)Parth Makeo Wrote:
(11-25-2015, 09:18 PM)Ozma Wrote: Only thing they introduced in this expansion was a Selfie Cam... and several dozen recolors of the dire wolf mount and boar mounts. Oh and lest I forget store only mounts lol.
The Xpac has also given us the Heirloom Tab to help manage them better, Wowtoken for those who don't want to pay 15$ a month and instead pay with ingame gold, A better catch up mechanic for crafting professions (Well half implemented because professions became so null a few months into WOD but still 1-600 leveling was simplified), Twitter integration (which despite it being meh, I had fun using now and then when something happened or i get a new mount. Feels good for me at least), Timewalking (Which many hate but i rather enjoyed a lot to do) and was the first expansion to give us updated models.

Of course those are just 'Updates' and not additions but i like to see the silver lining in most games that i play. But WOD still was a major disappointment. It's why i am super cautious on the beta info for Legion and what not. I still raid and currently on Mythic Gorfiend 66% so i will most likely continue to raid even in next xpac.
I'm convinced it won't be long before they integrate Marriage system in WoW. In the mind of Activision they're probably thinking... Should we work on playable content? Spend millions of dollars creating enjoyable PvE/PvP content without turning them into mindless Apexis Grinds? No that takes genuine effort, instead we should spend our resources on the Marriage System.

At least the system in FF14 makes more sense considering the amount of customization/vanity content they intended to put in the game. Unless the Marriage system has some sort of benefit for it like it did on some FTP games where it gives active buffs like 5% more crit while married person online then only the RP community would use it...and even then that community is slowly becoming the Minority. The RP circles are strong on maybe 2 of the official servers but they have become so bad after Cata (it's why i migrated here Tongue

)

If they want to be really smart, they would take the Golden Saucer gambling idea and make it a giant gold sink much like the BMAH.

LiadansWhisper · **11-25-2015, 10:32 PM**

All I can tell you for sure is that if everything goes live as is, Holy Priests are going to be the most ridiculously overpowered healing spec that has ever existed in the history of mankind*.

* Except for Disc. Disc is always OP. NERF DISC INTO THE GROUND!

LiadansWhisper · **11-25-2015, 10:33 PM**

(11-25-2015, 09:47 PM)Parth Makeo Wrote: If they want to be really smart, they would take the Golden Saucer gambling idea and make it a giant gold sink much like the BMAH.

Surely you jest?

Golden Saucer is like, an entire expansion for WoW. Not only would you be missing raid tiers, there wouldn't be any raid tiers if they tried to implement something like Golden Saucer! I mean, this is the game where dances derail expansions...

***Teadrinker*** · **11-25-2015, 10:52 PM**

(11-25-2015, 10:32 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: All I can tell you for sure is that if everything goes live as is, Holy Priests are going to be the most ridiculously overpowered healing spec that has ever existed in the history of mankind*.

* Except for Disc. Disc is always OP. NERF DISC INTO THE GROUND!

They've shit on Priests since 2008 so sure. Make them OP.

LiadansWhisper · **11-25-2015, 11:00 PM**

(11-25-2015, 10:52 PM)Teadrinker Wrote:
(11-25-2015, 10:32 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: All I can tell you for sure is that if everything goes live as is, Holy Priests are going to be the most ridiculously overpowered healing spec that has ever existed in the history of mankind*.

* Except for Disc. Disc is always OP. NERF DISC INTO THE GROUND!

They've shit on Priests since 2008 so sure. Make them OP.

Duuuuuuuuuuudeeeeeee.

The legendaries are broke as shit.

Ozma · **11-25-2015, 11:11 PM**

(11-25-2015, 10:32 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: All I can tell you for sure is that if everything goes live as is, Holy Priests are going to be the most ridiculously overpowered healing spec that has ever existed in the history of mankind*.

* Except for Disc. Disc is always OP. NERF DISC INTO THE GROUND!

Hmm... as a rogue I can quite easily kill Priests regardless of what spec they are. Sadly this doesn't seem to be the case with Trees which has been OP since.... actually I think they've been OP for as long as I care to remember?Â

Also wasn't there talks of turning Disc into a DPS spec? lol

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