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Lamiaris · **02-02-2016, 09:50 PM**

(02-02-2016, 02:36 PM)Momo Wrote: Best bet in my opinion? Â Two different things:

Moogle Bestie: Working a moogle into your story, met as a child or something, wouldn't be hard, you wouldn't nearly as many protests likely, and you can have that Mog be invisible at times, or off doing Mog things, something to think about though?

Raised by Mogs: So this one sort of says itself as well, you were lost in the forest, picked up by Mogs and raised to adulthood, and are close to the Mogs, maybe have one come with you places to experience our society from a different point of view? Â This one could just as well be combined with the first?

Either way, these two would be much better bets to play than your original idea, which you would need to find a very specific crowd to work yourself into, good luck!

.....Raised by Mogs! *facepaws* Why was I unable to think of such an idea..?! That would suffice very, very nicely! Plus, it would also explain her very, very shy nature. I imagine she'd be quick to scamper away.

Lamiaris · **07-11-2016, 10:51 AM**

(02-02-2016, 02:36 PM)Momo Wrote: Best bet in my opinion? Â Two different things:

Moogle Bestie: Working a moogle into your story, met as a child or something, wouldn't be hard, you wouldn't nearly as many protests likely, and you can have that Mog be invisible at times, or off doing Mog things, something to think about though?

Raised by Mogs: So this one sort of says itself as well, you were lost in the forest, picked up by Mogs and raised to adulthood, and are close to the Mogs, maybe have one come with you places to experience our society from a different point of view? Â This one could just as well be combined with the first?

Either way, these two would be much better bets to play than your original idea, which you would need to find a very specific crowd to work yourself into, good luck!

Oi, briefly reviving this thread for a bit. Do you reckon the 'raised by mogs' would be plausible? How exactly would I explain it?

**Unnamed Mercenary** · **07-11-2016, 11:08 AM**

Being raised by Moogles would probably still be incredibly rare, but it's also something feasible (although I'd image they would try to get that child returned to people ASAP because Moogles in FFXIV tend to be pretty secretive and some are downright cowardly).

If we're assuming your character would be old enough to be adventuring/semi-independent, (let's say 13 or older), then we'd likely need to stick with the Moogles over in the Black shroud (red poms). Maybe your character's parents lived far within the forest and met an untimely demise? Or perhaps they abandoned your character in the forest, assuming a beast would be the end of things, only to be rescued by a curious moogle.

Things to take into consideration there are that your character would likely not have all of the skills a typical moogle would have, such as flying and their concealment magic. (Moogles are excellent at hiding. So good that people cannot dispel it.)

Perhaps they took care of your character until they felt it would be safe to bring them to Gridania or another settlement? Moogles are shown talking to the Padjals fairly often, so I would imagine a child could be handed off in that way, and would then likely be raised by the Conjurer's guild or something? (Note: that doesn't necessarily mean becoming a conjurer, just being taken care of by them. You'd still have plenty of room for choices.)

Arcian · **07-11-2016, 01:01 PM**

(02-02-2016, 02:47 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: The more out-there an idea is, the less likely it is to be accepted by the whole of a community.

In a nutshell: this. With all due respect, I would not personally consider it feasible, but that's just my opinion.

Warren Castille · **07-11-2016, 02:14 PM**

(07-11-2016, 01:01 PM)Arcian Wrote:
(02-02-2016, 02:47 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: The more out-there an idea is, the less likely it is to be accepted by the whole of a community.

In a nutshell: this. With all due respect, I would not personally consider it feasible, but that's just my opinion.

To fly in the face of my own post, though, who cares if the hypothetical Them doesn't care for your concept? This is a game where people are successfully playing all sorts of off-canon things of questionable origin; Being raised by moogles would lend its own set of challenges, for sure, but it could also make for an interesting backstory.

The trap that I would be mindful of falling into is that of deciding to incorporate something unique just for the right to claim you're unique. Moogles in FFXIV are reclusive (that we have seen) and/or lazy, stupid and not at all interested in responsibility (mostly, from what we have seen, maybe). On the other other other hand, they're also tireless mailmogs who (mostly) work hard to make sure everyone gets their mail (unless they're making someone else do it, which is often. Maybe.). Maybe your character grew up in the mix of a band of hard-working delivery mogs, almost in a take off of Snow White and her dwarves?

At the end of the day, my feelings have always been summed up with this: If you execute it well and interestingly enough, people will not mind what you're writing.

Sounsyy · **07-11-2016, 02:30 PM**

(07-11-2016, 02:14 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Maybe your character grew up in the mix of a band of hard-working delivery mogs, almost in a take off of Snow White and her dwarves?

Slight continuity problem with this: The Mogmail system was only established in the moons following the Calamity as all linkshell communication was disrupted irreparably by Dalamud's fall. Prior to the Calamity, most Shroud moogles rarely revealed themselves to mankind and usually of those only to trusted people of the Wood, Seedseers and the like. Why? Because moogles were often sold on the Qiqirn and Ul'dahn blackmarkets for their skins. Apparently Ul'dahn nobles liked to keep them as exotic pets or use their skins for pillows. Coincidentally why the majority of the mogmailers deliver their missives while invisible, despite moogles making themselves more publicly known for the last five years at the Seedseer's behest.

So the character in question would have had to be interacting with the mog mailers sometime during the last five years of their lifetime. Which, could work I guess depending on how old the character is currently?

Overall, the concept of being raised by moogles could work, just that it creates a lot of narrative difficulties. Why did the moogles of the Shroud not return the child to Gridania to live with all the other orphans (Oak Atrium is practically an orphanage)? Was it the will of the elementals that caused them to intervene, if so why, is he destined to be a hearer? Can he understand mooglespeak? etc etc Just things to think on.

Warren Castille · **07-11-2016, 02:37 PM**

Stupid continuity, unraveling all of my plans and plots.

It's because 1.0 was broken and busted and there wasn't even a mail system back then.

Lamiaris · **07-11-2016, 04:01 PM**

Honestly, after somethought, I've come to this conclusion.

I don't think I'm going to let anyone stop me, to be honest. I'm going to try and go with the concept. Admittedly it was one I had when I originally first started poking at RP in FFXIV, but after seeing a few lore-freaks Â having freaked out over something incredibly minour, (something as stupid as a last name that didn't fit typical (insert race here) naming conventions) I had been spooked away and had resorted to just keeping her as a plain-Jane Doe for the longest time..

I'll do my best to write and play her to the best of my ability. Now just to find an FC that would accept me and let me play out this concept without much grief.. (which will probably be nigh impossible)

Also, I realize some people are going to hate me and likely outright ignore me when it comes to RP because of this.. >,>

Zelmanov · **07-11-2016, 04:14 PM**

I honestly see no issue if you wish to RP an FFXIV moogle. There are costumes, the moogle head with the paws and claws and the body piece. Shove it on a lala and you get a rather portly moogle of larger size (which do exist). If you have access to those tools, or hell, even if you don't have access to those tools, if you rp with a group that accepts you, it should be no issue.

The above statement is the most important, playing with a group that accepts you and your willingness to keep searching. If you have that, doesn't matter if you are a tactics moogle versus an ffxiv moogle.Â

but you want wider appeal? go for ffxiv moogle.

Gegenji · **07-11-2016, 04:24 PM**

I've seen people playing Vath and a disguised Sylph, by the by. And a couple other folks playing FFXIV Moogles (one even fought in the Grindstone)! We also have people playing Tarutaru, Mithra, and other races from FFXI. Judge Jredthys' "Judge" style is more or less based off the judges IN Tactics Advance (where the more anthromorphic moogles exist).

So I figure another person playing a moogle, or raised by moogles, should be perfectly fine.

Leggerless · **07-11-2016, 04:31 PM**

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Moogle character's possible and feasible within the FFXIV world.

Just be ready to explain it to every person who questions how exactly you are playing a moogle and wondering what you're doing visible and outside of the Shroud or off your mailman deliveries.

Edit: Forgot to read the "raised by moogles" part. Even more feasible, but see the above; expect to do a lot of explaining.

Ritsu · **07-11-2016, 05:15 PM**

A lore folk can come by and correct me if I am wrong.

But if I am recalling correctly Moogles are friendly with Slyphs? Or even could make it where your moogle is. Slyphs can glamour. So prehaps it would not be TOO far fetched that a Slyph friend gave an item/potion to the moogle so he could take a more normal form. Could roll a lala and even give them like pale skin and pom colored hair. Or if you are not a fan of lalas, could level Ninja and hide then pull out moogle minon. Could poof when stressed or nervous.

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