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Blue · **07-23-2013, 09:46 PM**

By lore, Keepers of the Moon do not make tribes. A keeper miqo'te is usually born in a small matriarchal family, with the mother being its central figure. Once a grown adult, they will live to lead a more solitary life, until they eventually find their own mate, I guess.

Rhynka · **07-23-2013, 10:05 PM**

(07-23-2013, 09:46 PM)Blue Wrote: By lore, Keepers of the Moon do not make tribes. A keeper miqo'te is usually born in a small matriarchal family, with the mother being its central figure. Once a grown adult, they will live to lead a more solitary life, until they eventually find their own mate, I guess.

She was having a hard time explaining what she meant, her second post may clear things up some.

http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread....0#pid37410

Manari · **07-23-2013, 10:07 PM**

I just wanted to point out that the "Keepers don't have tribes" mentality is just an interpretation by people reading the wording of the naming convention lore. No where in the SE lore does it state that "Keepers do not form tribes." It states that they normally come together as smaller matriarchal communities of three or four families. There is no reason that couldn't be considered a tribe. The lore simply states that Keepers don't live in nearly as large of a group as Seekers. The smaller, secluded families don't assign tribal letters to their names either, which I suppose further causes people to believe they don't live in tribes. It's all in the way you choose to interpret it right now, as the SE lore is skimpy and vague.

Under the general miqo'te lore on the official page (before you click to get the info specific to Seekers or Keepers) it mentions that the Miqo'te have hunting tribes. I don't see anything stating that Keepers don't live in tribes at all.

DimmerMeerkat · **07-23-2013, 10:09 PM**

I think that it would be best to change the character's name to suit Keeper traditions if you're wanting to change that character to be a Keeper rather than a Seeker. Or, you could just remain a Seeker and still feel a greater affinity for the moon than the sun. Just because your character feels closer to the moon doesn't mean their heritage needs to change. Just as real human beings are generally diurnal, there are some insomniacs among us, even though some of our ancestors really worshiped the sun. You could be a bit of a rebel among diurnal folks, as a Seeker who cares more for night than day.

I do not agree with the idea of making a Keeper avatar with warm-toned skin and calling it a Seeker, though. Skin color is not all that distinguishes a Keeper from a Seeker. Keepers have fangs, round pupils, larger ears, and longer, skinnier tails. Seekers have vertical slits for pupils, smaller ears, shorter tails, and no fangs. If you're going to be a Keeper, be a Keeper. If you're going to roll a Keeper but call it a Seeker... well, please don't. >.>

FreelanceWizard · **07-23-2013, 10:22 PM**

In other games I'd agree... but in XIV, we have the canonical example of F'lhaminn, who looks like a Keeper but has a Seeker name. The above linked dev post indicates that miqo'te with features of the other tribe can happen due to genetic anomalies or mixed blood, and that it's their intention to allow people to mix and match those features to a certain degree in the character generator.

DimmerMeerkat · **07-24-2013, 04:20 PM**

(07-23-2013, 10:22 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: In other games I'd agree... but in XIV, we have the canonical example of F'lhaminn, who looks like a Keeper but has a Seeker name. The above linked dev post indicates that miqo'te with features of the other tribe can happen due to genetic anomalies or mixed blood, and that it's their intention to allow people to mix and match those features to a certain degree in the character generator.

I think it would make more sense to assume that said character is really a Keeper, but has a Seeker name--not that it's a Seeker who just happens to have all of the genetic traits of a Keeper. Being of mixed heritage there is plausible too.

In all likelihood, it's probably a development oversight, but who knows.

FreelanceWizard · **07-24-2013, 05:31 PM**

It was originally probably a dev oversight; however, they've created a lore explanation for it. The link I included is a dev post explaining how she (and the situation generally) works in lore.

Desphiria · **07-24-2013, 06:20 PM**

Thanks guys, I think I probably figured out what to do.

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