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Alexandr Nocturne · **08-05-2013, 08:38 PM**

All I was looking to do was raise a concern and open up discussion.Â I hate a last minute shift like this.Â It's a pain we don't need.Â But I have been talking to people, a significant number of people, that are bailing on Gilgamesh because of Reddit and 4Chan, be it the communities or the threat of potential server lock.

The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.Â We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.Â I am committed to this community.Â Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

This was all to simply spark discussion on the matter.Â Nothing more, nothing less.

allgivenover · **08-05-2013, 08:49 PM**

Quote:The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.Â We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.Â I am committed to this community.Â Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

Now you know how the Balmung veterans felt when you all decided you didn't want to play with them.

Aysun · **08-05-2013, 08:50 PM**

(08-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Xerek Wrote: All I was looking to do was raise a concern and open up discussion.Â I hate a last minute shift like this.Â It's a pain we don't need.Â But I have been talking to people, a significant number of people, that are bailing on Gilgamesh because of Reddit and 4Chan, be it the communities or the threat of potential server lock.

The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.Â We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.Â I am committed to this community.Â Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

This was all to simply spark discussion on the matter.Â Nothing more, nothing less.

The Balmung RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Gilgamesh see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.

Alexandr Nocturne · **08-05-2013, 08:53 PM**

Let's not derail this thread with off-topic complaints regarding the split, please?

CalemvirLucin · **08-05-2013, 09:15 PM**

[font=.HelveticaNeueUI]http://forum.square-enix.com/ARR-Test/threads/94373-Experience-the-Epic-of-Gilgamesh-the-fresh-perky-new-RP-server.[/font]
[font=.HelveticaNeueUI]This thread on the beta forums shows alot of complaints about RP'ers on Gilgamesh, haha. But who knows![/font]

faceman7381 · **08-05-2013, 09:23 PM**

(08-05-2013, 08:49 PM)allgivenover Wrote:
Quote:The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.Â We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.Â I am committed to this community.Â Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

Now you know how the Balmung veterans felt when you all decided you didn't want to play with them.

This this this. Â Establishing cliques to stay out of perceived established cliques....Somewhere a Vulcan cries out for his logic....

No matter where you go good luck and have good RP! Â I will miss you on Balmung and what could have been but it is a game and you should be happy playing it no matter what server you are on. Â Leviathan and Behemoth or any other are just as fine as any other if you desire it to be.

AkhutaiAngura · **08-05-2013, 09:37 PM**

(08-05-2013, 08:50 PM)Aysun Wrote:
(08-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Xerek Wrote: All I was looking to do was raise a concern and open up discussion.Â I hate a last minute shift like this.Â It's a pain we don't need.Â But I have been talking to people, a significant number of people, that are bailing on Gilgamesh because of Reddit and 4Chan, be it the communities or the threat of potential server lock.

The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.Â We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.Â I am committed to this community.Â Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

This was all to simply spark discussion on the matter.Â Nothing more, nothing less.

The Balmung RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Gilgamesh see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.

I'm going to go ahead and say what Aysun didn't, though she alluded to by the quote. Itallicized for emphasis, too.

Balmung players do -not- see this as a good thing. We do not want the Gilgamesh(Or whatever server) community to fail. If people don't want to play on Balmung, if they want to be on another server as a community, us on Balmung, generally speaking, want them to do well. In no way is the 'bleeding of players' a good thing, rather it be from us who're catching the lost ones, or the Gil-community who is losing them.Â

I think, all the Balmung players are saying is that all of the issues with the Gil server won't be an issue on Balmung, and that the Balmung players have always, and will always, welcome those from the other servers with open arms. Strength in numbers, as others have said. A community united, is a community strong.. A community split, is not.

This isn't some sort of.. Competition though. Balmung isn't trying to compete with the other servers to get more RPers.. Five or five hundred, we'll be on Balmung regardless. Â Now, I'm not attempting to derail the conversation further - Though it may be seen as that. All I'm attempting to do is to stop the idea that Balmung has some sort of dislike towards those not playing on its server. No more perpetuation of that concept.

Edit: Ha. Just noted Aysun's alteration of words. Sly woman, you. My point still stands.

Alexandr Nocturne · **08-05-2013, 09:43 PM**

(08-05-2013, 09:37 PM)Kaln Wrote: I'm going to go ahead and say what Aysun didn't, though she alluded to by the quote. Itallicized for emphasis, too.

Balmung players do -not- see this as a good thing. We do not want the Gilgamesh(Or whatever server) community to fail. If people don't want to play on Balmung, if they want to be on another server as a community, us on Balmung, generally speaking, want them to do well. In no way is the 'bleeding of players' a good thing, rather it be from us who're catching the lost ones, or the Gil-community who is losing them.Â

I think, all the Balmung players are saying is that all of the issues with the Gil server won't be an issue on Balmung, and that the Balmung players have always, and will always, welcome those from the other servers with open arms. Strength in numbers, as others have said. A community united, is a community strong.. A community split, is not.

This isn't some sort of.. Competition though. Balmung isn't trying to compete with the other servers to get more RPers.. Five or five hundred, we'll be on Balmung regardless. Â Now, I'm not attempting to derail the conversation further - Though it may be seen as that. All I'm attempting to do is to stop the idea that Balmung has some sort of dislike towards those not playing on its server. No more perpetuation of that concept.

I was very careful to say *some*.Â I will not make sweeping assumptions about the Balmung community, and I know a good number of them wish us well.

Aysun · **08-05-2013, 09:43 PM**

(08-05-2013, 09:37 PM)Kaln Wrote:
(08-05-2013, 08:50 PM)Aysun Wrote:
(08-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Xerek Wrote: All I was looking to do was raise a concern and open up discussion.Â I hate a last minute shift like this.Â It's a pain we don't need.Â But I have been talking to people, a significant number of people, that are bailing on Gilgamesh because of Reddit and 4Chan, be it the communities or the threat of potential server lock.

The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.Â We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.Â I am committed to this community.Â Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

This was all to simply spark discussion on the matter.Â Nothing more, nothing less.

The Balmung RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Gilgamesh see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.

I'm going to go ahead and say what Aysun didn't, though she alluded to by the quote. Itallicized for emphasis, too.

Balmung players do -not- see this as a good thing. We do not want the Gilgamesh(Or whatever server) community to fail. If people don't want to play on Balmung, if they want to be on another server as a community, us on Balmung, generally speaking, want them to do well. In no way is the 'bleeding of players' a good thing, rather it be from us who're catching the lost ones, or the Gil-community who is losing them.Â

I think, all the Balmung players are saying is that all of the issues with the Gil server won't be an issue on Balmung, and that the Balmung players have always, and will always, welcome those from the other servers with open arms. Strength in numbers, as others have said. A community united, is a community strong.. A community split, is not.

This isn't some sort of.. Competition though. Balmung isn't trying to compete with the other servers to get more RPers.. Five or five hundred, we'll be on Balmung regardless. Â Now, I'm not attempting to derail the conversation further - Though it may be seen as that. All I'm attempting to do is to stop the idea that Balmung has some sort of dislike towards those not playing on its server. No more perpetuation of that concept.

Edit: Ha. Just noted Aysun's alteration of words. Sly woman, you. My point still stands.

I may or may not have stolen the idea.

Alexandr Nocturne · **08-05-2013, 09:49 PM**

*sigh*

I think this thread has been successfully derailed.

Aysun · **08-05-2013, 09:51 PM**

(08-05-2013, 09:49 PM)Xerek Wrote: *sigh*

I think this thread has been successfully derailed.

Several people have questioned as to why, if Gilgamesh is not the chosen server anymore, Balmung is not an option. I think if someone acknowledged them and tried to answer that it could go back on topic.

Alexandr Nocturne · **08-05-2013, 10:03 PM**

All you are doing is rehashing the question of why we chose not to roll on Balmung in the first place.Â This is not a thread for debating the existence of the Gilgamesh community, it is a simple discussion about whether we want to pick a different (non-legacy) server to go to.

Why a separate community exists on Gilgamesh is a question that has been discussed and debated to death here.Â Balmung is a valid option for anyone that wants to go there.Â Always has been.Â But the majority of people that decided to go to Gilgamesh did so because they did not want to go to a legacy server.Â It stands to reason those people still don't want to be on a legacy server.

This was supposed to be a thread for Gilgamesh players to discuss whether they think staying on Gilgamesh, warts and all is the better choice, or is picking a new server (such as Bahamut).Â It has spiraled into anything but, and that is frustrating.

Gideon Aryeh · **08-05-2013, 10:03 PM**

(08-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Xerek Wrote: All I was looking to do was raise a concern and open up discussion.Â I hate a last minute shift like this.Â It's a pain we don't need.Â But I have been talking to people, a significant number of people, that are bailing on Gilgamesh because of Reddit and 4Chan, be it the communities or the threat of potential server lock.

The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.Â Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.Â We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.Â I am committed to this community.Â Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

This was all to simply spark discussion on the matter.Â Nothing more, nothing less.

Like you I'm concerned but I don't want to cause any further confusion I just want to start the game already honestly. I mean I think people arre more worried than they need to be the only thing I can advise at this point is to try out both and see for yourself. As far as server lock goes well I think SE understands what they need to deal with.

And as far as finding an alternate server I recommend labeling the post -Gilgamesh- so it doesn't get flooded with the same tired -why-questions

Kossori · **08-05-2013, 10:22 PM**

http://forum.square-enix.com/ARR-Test/th...RP-server.

Is the only real concern I have.

Good gracious are the people on the beta forums a bunch of assholes.

AkhutaiAngura · **08-05-2013, 10:22 PM**

(08-05-2013, 10:03 PM)Xerek Wrote: All you are doing is rehashing the question of why we chose not to roll on Balmung in the first place.Â This is not a thread for debating the existence of the Gilgamesh community, it is a simple discussion about whether we want to pick a different (non-legacy) server to go to.

Why a separate community exists on Gilgamesh is a question that has been discussed and debated to death here.Â Balmung is a valid option for anyone that wants to go there.Â Always has been.Â But the majority of people that decided to go to Gilgamesh did so because they did not want to go to a legacy server.Â It stands to reason those people still don't want to be on a legacy server.

This was supposed to be a thread for Gilgamesh players to discuss whether they think staying on Gilgamesh, warts and all is the better choice, or is picking a new server (such as Bahamut).Â It has spiraled into anything but, and that is frustrating.

And in doing so, in asking if people wish to go to another server.. All the Balmung players are doing, is asking those that went to Gilgamesh if they want to reconsider.

It stands to reason that every server will have it's trolls, its '4chan' and 'reddit' communities. Not in name maybe, but every server will have those types of people.

So all we're doing, is asking the Gilgamesh people to consider it again. I mean..

Look at this way. Waaaay back when Gilgamesh was decided, when it was voted on, people -KNEW- back then that Reddit had made Gilgamesh it's unofficial server. People -KNEW- back then, that 4chan had a fair amount of people rollng that way, too. There were several people posting it through the original poll thread, and several people had brought it up in various other threads.

But now, a week or two before P4, someone decides to voice a concern about this? I think it was, back then. I'm pretty sure people either ignored it, or weren't concerned with it back then. So, if that has changed.. If people are now concerned about that, maybe people will have a change of heart and consider joining the communities.

That's all we're asking, too. Consider it, along with whatever other server choices.

Poll: Should we move from Gilgamesh to Behemoth? You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
Yes	50.00%	33	50.00%
No	50.00%	33	50.00%
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