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Cato · **09-25-2013, 08:25 AM**

I am of the firm belief that every role-player needs to learn how to tune out distractions during role-play since it's a very useful skill to have. MMO's are full of players that are running around doing their own thing. Most won't be bothered by the sight of role-play, others will decide to do their best to try provoke role-players into getting angry at them.

Ultimately, though? Laughing it off is the best route to take. I'd suggest that you make use of the ignore function and tune out whoever is trying to ruin role-play and I guarantee that after a while you won't even notice people doing it.

N'taeyl · **09-25-2013, 08:29 AM**

I think there's a little too much analyzing going on here.Â While it's not all incorrect, the "hardcore players" or whatever they call themselves don't get RP and think it's silly, they're gonna act immature.Â That's all there is to it.Â We should expect it and just deal with it as maturely as possible.Â And if you have to, let go of your pride and just teleport away.Â It doesn't make them more powerful, it's all in their thick skulls and you can peacefully continue on, unless you need to use the area ect such and such.Â It's not about who wins or not.

K'dath · **09-25-2013, 08:58 AM**

I don't mean to imply that simply ignoring the problem isn't a perfectly acceptable course of action, but it does nothing to correct the behavior. By not saying anything, you're saying it is acceptable for them to behave this way.

There is a difference between being a raging lunatic at anyone who might possibly be doing some slight thing to break your immersion, and politely telling someone who is being an idiot to kindly take it else where.

If someone was shoving you repeatedly at class or at work, would you just ignore them? Maybe. But it makes far more sense to tell them in the nicest way possible to bugger off, and if they don't go over their heads and demand action from the higher ups. It improves productivity and decreases hostility in your workplace/place of learning. The same applies here.

Katanyae · **09-25-2013, 10:29 AM**

(09-25-2013, 08:58 AM)X Wrote: I don't mean to imply that simply ignoring the problem isn't a perfectly acceptable course of action, but it does nothing to correct the behavior. By not saying anything, you're saying it is acceptable for them to behave this way.

There is a difference between being a raging lunatic at anyone who might possibly be doing some slight thing to break your immersion, and politely telling someone who is being an idiot to kindly take it else where.

If someone was shoving you repeatedly at class or at work, would you just ignore them? Maybe. But it makes far more sense to tell them in the nicest way possible to bugger off, and if they don't go over their heads and demand action from the higher ups. It improves productivity and decreases hostility in your workplace/place of learning. The same applies here.

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You WILL NOT correct their behavior! Just as much as they will not correct yours.
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The same doesn't apply here. The virtual game world is not real life.
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If someone at work shoved you, you can go to your boss and they will probably get fired. If someone in the virtual world decides to sit by you and craft while you happen to be RPing...well, you have the choice or ignoring it or not. But there is not a damn thing you can do if that crafter wants to sit there are happily make cotten trousers. Period.
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Maybe it's time we embrace why the other half of the non-rpers like us. for our "maturity". That doesn't mean that we're mature about how we enjoy the game; it means that we're mature about the way that we handle things when they don't go our way.

Rosekitten · **09-25-2013, 10:49 AM**

Eh, the craftsman was the least er intrusive. Though I think I was still laughing at all of it and how bored they must have been as we were carrying on like nothing Tongue

Their emote spam did get annoying somewhere along the lines but blacklist fixes that. Never thought to report them, kids will be kids (no matter the age).

Cato · **09-25-2013, 10:51 AM**

Yeah, the relative anonymity of the internet means that most people can unfortunately get away with acting like a wanker. Even if you report someone for questionable behaviour the response is typically a very predictable statement along the lines of: "We understand that the behaviour of other players can be frustrating, though at present there is little we can do after investigating the matter. We advise you to make use of the blacklist function and hope that your experiences are more positive in the future."

It's a shame, but there really is little to be done about it outside of the extremely vulgar cases of blatant harassment. Older MMO's used to crack down on negative behaviour a lot more frequently, though it seems as if modern MMO's take the approach of treading on eggshells.

On a side note, if you go to the chat options I'm pretty sure you can filter out the crafting messages of other players. I may be wrong, though.

FreelanceWizard · **09-25-2013, 10:57 AM**

Indeed you can. The chat filter functions are pretty slick and easy to use (though I'd like more windows and per-window text sizing, personally); I bounce all game-related messages besides loot to my "Battle" tab, for instance. There's also a System setting that allows you to eliminate graphical effects generated by other players.

K'dath · **09-25-2013, 11:00 AM**

I think you misunderstand the part where I said "There is a difference between being a raging lunatic at anyone who might possibly be doing some slight thing to break your immersion..."

In the case of someone sitting around crafting near you, it's not exactly earthshaking. Pick your battles. But there's nothing mature about allowing yourself to be bullied.

Gideon Aryeh · **09-25-2013, 11:47 AM**

(09-25-2013, 07:32 AM)Katanyae Wrote:
(09-25-2013, 04:56 AM)Nimarhie Wrote: You know... that's actually harrassment... you could make a complaint ticke; politely remind the GM that you are a paying customer andall that still, just because you're rping doesn't mean you're not playing the game.

You should really feel sorry for these folk, if they can sit there for hours and try to disrupt u
Your game time then they must have no social lives at all. Probably narrow minded children who learned how to be bullies from their dad (or are just sociopaths).

Pat them on the back and tell them it,s ok, jesus loves them even though no one else does... lol that should send them into a nerdrage. Lol
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Personally I think that's a waste of time.

It was a guy that decided to craft. It's not up to the playerbase to decide when and where he can do it.

Roleplayers need to start having some thicker skin and not letting everything bother them. Not trying to play devil's advocate or start a fight, and I know this view probably won't be so highly veiwed by Rpers. But for goodness sake if everytime something bad happens we cry like we spilt milk then the NON-RPers win. And win and win again. And keep ON winning long after the action took place.

Bingo +1000 internets for this. Many of our peers are far too sensitive.

Katanyae · **09-25-2013, 12:46 PM**

(09-25-2013, 11:00 AM)X Wrote: I think you misunderstand the part where I said "There is a difference between being a raging lunatic at anyone who might possibly be doing some slight thing to break your immersion..."

In the case of someone sitting around crafting near you, it's not exactly earthshaking. Pick your battles. But there's nothing mature about allowing yourself to be bullied.

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I don't think that I did misunderstand you at all. I hope you're not takingÂ your statementÂ out of context to change it's meaning to support an argumentÂ Wink

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I didn't imply that being mature = allowing oneself to be bullied. What I DID say, however, is that they key here lies in oneself.Â And there is nothing that is more positive or rewarding than to not let someone's behavior bother you.
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Bullied. Is that what we're calling this nowadays? LOL. And you wonder why non rpers make fun of us?
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I don't advocate being a victim. I fully support self-empowerment.

Fen · **09-25-2013, 12:49 PM**

Ohai! I was that little Lalafell in the seat, and yeah... I just ignored the lot of them. It was humorous at first but when it got old, I started up the trusty blacklist. No big deal, haters gonna hate, just ignore them. Don't feed the trolls. Big Grin

Rosekitten · **09-25-2013, 12:56 PM**

I think it annoyed me a little when my own FC mates started to encourage the trolls ^^; I think someone got into the rum again.

My husband especially... *glares at Corwin who was laughing his butt off* D; I get he doesn't enjoy rp'ing but he didn't have to feed the trolls into coming back after we were rid of them.

Cato · **09-25-2013, 01:12 PM**

Heh. I'm guilty of joining in on blatant OOC nonsense from time to time. Just the other day a lot of players decided to dress up in the skimpy attire obtained in the seasonal event and dance near the gear vendors in Ul'dah. It's not something my character would do IC, unless he was very, very drunk. At the same time, though it was pretty hilarious and a fun break from indulging in serious role-play earlier on in the evening.

LiadansWhisper · **09-25-2013, 01:30 PM**

I just politely ask them to move. Â I've yet to get a rude response when I explained that the sound of them crafting was giving me a headache. Â :-\

K'dath · **09-25-2013, 01:45 PM**

I'm an advocate of agreeing to disagree. I don't think we're preaching from two totally different books either, just different chapters.

The problem is, there's this implication that I'm allowing it to bother me, like asking people to stop antagonizing me is some act of aggression. And I don't think of it that way. I honestly couldn't give a rat's furry little back side what people do with the time they pay for. If they want to get naked and dance on tables for 6 days straight they're well within their rights to do so, and it's not my place to tell them they can't.

However, I expect a certain amount of respect and civility from people, and I don't believe there's anything wrong with asking for that. And in situations where the harassment goes beyond simple disruption and into the realm of vulgarity, I'm completely within my rights as a consumer to report them for violations of the terms of service, which they have agreed to abide.

The thing is, griefing is a problem. And problems don't go away by ignoring them.

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