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Steel Wolf · **03-09-2014, 02:21 PM**

Yea, you know what I should probably bring up a point, actually--my interest in these games are more out of excitement as playspaces, not as "new homes" or stuff of that sort.Â Despite my earlier dislike of my character, and my continued dislike of XIV's dungeons/Primals push (which could likely change if I like WAR tanking enough...or I get my grubby hands on my beloved DRK), I look at these other titles with interest as occasional breaks or other things to play around in.Â

Variety is the spice of life, after all!Â ^^ b

allgivenover · **03-09-2014, 02:26 PM**

MMOs are games best played over long periods of time, not necessarily /all/ the time, so you're probably doing it right that way.

Ildur · **03-09-2014, 04:25 PM**

The only MMO that has catched my eye right now is Wildstar, though people who have played the betas seem to be pretty unhappy about the combat system. So I will pass on it until I can actually try it (either by a trial system or sneaking into a beta period).

City of Titans could also be a thing for me if they manage to keep City of Heroes crazy character customization and if they also implement a Champions Online-esque skill system. I will certainly check it out when it comes out if they do that.

TheLastCandle · **03-09-2014, 06:09 PM**

Among all upcoming MMOs, the only one I'm really excited to try is Everquest Next (the actual game, not Landmark) for my beloved dwarves. But as others have stated - I'm more than happy with XIV, and I've never really been the type of MMO player who hops around games an awful lot. I don't do a ton of endgame (I'm just now STARTING to tackle Coil!) so I still have plenty to look forward to here. As long as they keep the content coming, I can see myself being satisfied for years to come.

Clover · **03-09-2014, 06:20 PM**

(03-09-2014, 11:41 AM)Oli! Wrote: Hadn't heard of Bless Online, but I looked it up and it seems uncommonly beautiful.

However, that by principle makes me worry about the gameplay quality.

The devs want Bless Online to have a very rich lore and a very beautiful world. You'll be able to fly on dragons and you'll supposedly be a part of an awesome story. The devs said they wanted the player to feel very involved with the story and the world.

Good so far.

But then you see beta videos and the characters can't even do something as basic as sitting on a chair. I also doubt they can change facial expressions or look at another player, or have room for name + surname, or have future plans for house system, and a long etc.
The game will have a nice lore, but I won't be able to feel involved in the world because the devs are failing at the most basic things. FFXIV is just too perfect and genius for me, and I realize that every other game offers much less.

Flickering Ember · **03-09-2014, 08:22 PM**

I'm not really looking at new MMOs coming out since joining XIV. The main reason why I join MMOs is to RP and I don't have the focus or drive to split my attention between two. If I don't RP in an MMO then I just don't have fun since there is no emotional connection to my character or other characters.

I was looking forward to Wildstar but not anymore. The gameplay looks really interesting. The combat, paths, jumping puzzles...I love it! I love cartoony graphics. I think they age better. And I enjoy good humor too. But too much of one thing is a bad thing and I like humor and seriousness to complement each other. Wildstar doesn't take itself seriously....perhaps a bit too much for my taste. If I can't take the world seriously then how will I be able to take RP seriously? Player character models of both genders and all races irk me. There isn't a lot of variance between the different races in body types. The female ones are both sexualized and objectified which makes it virtually impossible to try and RP the types of characters I want to.

That said, Carbine looks like they are really taking care of the RP player base. I admire their dedication where other companies don't seem to care or are ambivalent to us.Â

Other than that I'm curious about WoD but not too optimistic about it being good.

LandStander · **03-09-2014, 09:32 PM**

Did someone say "The Repopulation" *ears perk up*

I'm glad to see another backer Big Grin

! As far as MMO prospects, there are a lot of them coming out in the near future, but really...they kind of stink. Wildstar is a Sci-fi Wow clone and I have not heard many positive things about it. Bless looks interesting, but to me it looks exactly like Tera. ESO is okay, but you have a small RP community, separated by 3 factions (no cross faction communication) and then split between two servers US and EU...so the RP community there won't last that long.Â

Honestly...besides The Repopulation, I don't see any good RP contenders out there, or hell...not even any decent MMO's out there.

Aleister · **03-09-2014, 09:45 PM**

(03-09-2014, 01:41 PM)synaesthetic Wrote: Due to my experiences playing TERA, I will never, ever, ever touch a Korean MMO with a thousand-foot pole ever again. No thanks. That kind of RNG/Pay2Win crap can die in a hotel fire. An AIDS hotel. During bees week.

Ahem. Moving right along.

Wildstar's biggest problems:

Focus on 40-player raids at endgame (fuck you, Carbine).
Combat is a terrible confused mess that doesn't know whether it wants to be TERA or Guild Wars 2.

Pretty much this. I feel exactly the same way about Korean games so I won't even touch Wildstar plus.. I don't like MMORPGs that focus on having guns as the primary weapons for the game. Props on the character graphics, spot on in exactly copying WoW though.. the models.. especially the females.. No thank you.

World of Darkness I'm interested in only because it will have Perma-death in it, so you're forced to tread carefully in a game like that aside that I will stick to FFXIV or go back to WoW when WoD comes out (Which I doubt.. the game is running out of stuff that makes it fun like back in BC, who knows.. GhostCrawler who I blame for this has now left Blizzard.)

Magellan · **03-09-2014, 10:10 PM**

I recently moved from here to SWTOR and quite frankly am glad I did. The story in SWTOR is unlike any I've seen in any MMO before (FFXIV's story, by contrast, bored me to tears). I also like the combat quite a bit, which also is rare in MMO's (again, FFXIV's combat was just.... zzzzz)

If another MMO coming down the pipeline can replicate SWTOR's storytelling prowess, than definitely I'll check it out, as that's a huge part of me actually liking a game. But that seems rare as most mmos don't seem to want to put in the time or money for quality writing and plots.

My only regret is I desperately wish I could transport this community to my new home ._. People here are so much friendlier and social.

TheLastCandle · **03-09-2014, 10:15 PM**

(03-09-2014, 10:10 PM)Magellan Wrote: I recently moved from here to SWTOR and quite frankly am glad I did. The story in SWTOR is unlike any I've seen in any MMO before (FFXIV's story, by contrast, bored me to tears). I also like the combat quite a bit, which also is rare in MMO's (again, FFXIV's combat was just.... zzzzz)

If another MMO coming down the pipeline can replicate SWTOR's storytelling prowess, than definitely I'll check it out, as that's a huge part of me actually liking a game. But that seems rare as most mmos don't seem to want to put in the time or money for quality writing and plots.

My only regret is I desperately wish I could transport this community to my new home ._. People here are so much friendlier and social.

I still play a little SWTOR. There are a lot of things that irk me about it, and the combat is NOT my favorite, but overall I don't think it deserves all of the criticism leveraged against it. I will say that it's EXTREMELY unfriendly to anyone who doesn't subscribe; hands down, the F2P option in this game is the worst I've seen in any MMO.

With that being said... what server are you on? There are a few of us from the RPC pokin' around on Ebon Hawk.

Rinette · **03-09-2014, 10:25 PM**

Wildstar... I'm not that big of a fan of NCSoft to begin with so even before I saw their idea of female characters I didn't like the game. After seeing the art style I swore I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole. As someone else mentioned it's exactly like Saturday morning cartoons and that does NOT appeal to me at all. I would give it a chance if I got a beta invite or something similar but I would never leave FFXIV for it.

I'm honestly surprised that no one has mentioned The Elder Scrolls Online yet, it's coming out in about four weeks. I've been doing beta for a little bit of it and really enjoy it. FFXIV is the perfect game for me, graphics and mechanic wise, but it's lacking a certain something that might push me into leaving it for ESO. I have always been a fan of Elder Scrolls and had gotten into it before I did FF (not like it's a competition or anything).

I'm going to have a lot of fun searching for the MMOs that everyone else suggested though. :3

No Longer Exists · **03-09-2014, 10:30 PM**

(03-09-2014, 10:10 PM)Magellan Wrote: I recently moved from here to SWTOR and quite frankly am glad I did. The story in SWTOR is unlike any I've seen in any MMO before (FFXIV's story, by contrast, bored me to tears). I also like the combat quite a bit, which also is rare in MMO's (again, FFXIV's combat was just.... zzzzz)

If another MMO coming down the pipeline can replicate SWTOR's storytelling prowess, than definitely I'll check it out, as that's a huge part of me actually liking a game. But that seems rare as most mmos don't seem to want to put in the time or money for quality writing and plots.

My only regret is I desperately wish I could transport this community to my new home ._. People here are so much friendlier and social.

Some of us had been trying to get a dedicated SWTOR group together for a night or two a week, Asgarn was one of us and he seemed to need a little break BUT I'm still totally up for SWTOR play.Â

As to the other MMOs, I've given up on waiting for World of Darkness. CCP can't keep its stuff together and they teaser a brief, snail-pace effort now and then. The Phoenix Project has made more progress with their development than CCP has in years on WoD. Â If I had to bet which will come out first with better effort, my money'd be on TPP and City of Titans.

Wildstar looked entertaining to me and I'm not so much of a stickler for the aesthetics. It was nice to see a sci-fi MMO that didn't take itself too seriously. My gripe with EVE and such is exactly that. ZOMG, it's a video game, not life 2.0. Still, the reviews thus far have been pretty "meh".

I've never been an EQ fan. WoW was fun for awhile and so was LOTRO, but it loses its appeal over time. I'm always aware that FF14 will get to that point too with its endgame. (I mean, c'mon. We can see the signs already, admit it.) This Landmark thang just seems like desperation. No offense to the franchise.

Never heard of Bless until now. Took a look at the videos and I don't see much staying power in it. Cookie Cutter, despite touting epic storyline design and lush graphics.

Anywho, that's my take on things.

Magellan · **03-09-2014, 11:03 PM**

(03-09-2014, 10:15 PM)TheLastCandle Wrote: I still play a little SWTOR. There are a lot of things that irk me about it, and the combat is NOT my favorite, but overall I don't think it deserves all of the criticism leveraged against it. I will say that it's EXTREMELY unfriendly to anyone who doesn't subscribe; hands down, the F2P option in this game is the worst I've seen in any MMO.

With that being said... what server are you on? There are a few of us from the RPC pokin' around on Ebon Hawk.

...awwww, I'm on Begeren Colony :/
Still, if there's a large enough group over there a couple nights a week, I could consider a server transfer.

I also agree with what you said with the caveat of; 'fun' is completely in the eye of the beholder. We all want something different from our games... FFXIV failed to deliver an enjoyable experience for me, but I can see why others like it so much. Plus... it helps keep SE in business so yay! I've found that every game has a group of negative critics who focus solely on what the game didn't provide as opposed to what it did. Even though swtor is by far my favorite MMO I've played, I'd still give it a 'B'. MMO's in general just don't seem to deliver everything they could.

@Black Hat
"Some of us had been trying to get a dedicated SWTOR group together for a night or two a week, Asgarn was one of us and he seemed to need a little break BUT I'm still totally up for SWTOR play."

As stated above I'm on Begeren Colony, but would consider rolling on a different server to play a couple nights a week!

Ignacius · **03-09-2014, 11:31 PM**

Actually, I've got some experience here. Â I've played MMOs almost since the beginning, Everquest, Everquest 2, FFXI, WoW, and then a slurry lately, as I've given EVE Online nine months and now FFXIV for a month at least. Â I also managed to beta Conan back in the day. Â I'm getting the first bit of my updated rig soon (not by choice, my motherboard finally kicked the bucket and I had to order parts to do my core upgrade, so I'll be out of the game until I get my PC sorted out). Â I've also done some research here. Â So, some thoughts on coming attractions:

Final Fantasy 14: Â A Realm Reborn

Obviously, most of the people here aren't playing the game as a sort of trial-sideline. Â I am, WoW being my first game and FFXIV being an experiment to see if I can find a new game to engage me before the new WoW expansion gets another crack at owning my soul. Â I'm giving FFXIV a shot to get my attention, and at the very least it's earned itself a subscription, as I am still interested in pretty much everything in it. Â However, more importantly, I'm kind of interested in what it might become. Â Eorzea is understandably small compared to other MMO worlds (it's much more highly detailed and is trying to keep people packed together ), so I can't wait until the game starts to expand beyond its boundaries. Â That seems to be something they're eager to do at Square. Â In all, I'm sort of excited to see Ala Mhigo and other places hinted at, but that must exist. Â So FFXIV, for me, is probably the game I'm looking forward to most, even though I play it.

World of Warcraft: Â Warlords of Draenor

Can't help it, I love World of Warcraft. Â It seems to do everything just well enough to keep me hooked. Â If it wasn't for how long I've played the game, I'd probably still be playing even while waiting for the xpack to drop. Â I think Pandaria is the best expansion WoW has ever had; I even bombastically liked it better than Burning Crusade. Â I've also played Warcraft games since 1990, so I'm very interested in how they'll do this sort of throwback lore. Â The only reason I'm looking at other games is because I've played WoW nearly since launch. Â I need SOMETHING to do that isn't WoW (and no, playing Diablo doesn't count, even though I do that, too). Â Unfortunately, WoW is the only game I know of with dedicated RP servers, so I'm not likely to leave it anytime soon. Â I'm a roleplayer that plays games, not a gamer that roleplays, so it's very important to me.

EVE Online

I played this game for about nine months. Â At one point, it might have sounded promising, but it taught me one thing: Â MMOs need to knock this FFA PVP shit off. Â After playing for nine months, I realized something. Â I hated seeing anyone else in the game. Â Seeing another player immediately sets you on edge and makes you want them to go away. Â That seems to me to be a complete misuse of the promise of an MMORPG, that you can see other people. Â In fact, FFXIV attracts me by doing the opposite, rewarding me for stopping and helping people regardless of whether it's something I need to do. Â Between syncing levels for FATEs, equalizing levels for all dungeons so you can run them with your friends at lower levels, and giving you bits of experience without detracting it from the people you help, FFXIV means I'm constantly hoping someone comes along, even a complete stranger. Â EVE, at this point, just proves that free for all PVP doesn't work.

Star Citizen

Speaking of FFA PVP you can't avoid, this game would be amazing if they'd have KNOCKED THIS FFA PVP SHIT OFF! Â It sounds fantastic, with gear-bending graphical prowess, flight-stick starship piloting, and a lot of game depth anyone would love. Â I'm disappointed to conclude that it won't be quite so open as anyone wants, and it will be absolutely impossible to avoid running into PVP pirates anywhere. Â Another game where I'm going to want to have nothing to do with random strangers. Â Completely wasting the possibilities of an MMORPG.

Wildstar

I'm somewhat interested in seeing where they go with this. Â It looks like a very explorable game and seems like something I'd be interested in. Â I'm also entertained by their trailers, jokes, and game footage. Â It seems fun, which is another thing some game developers are forgetting. Â However, it also seems like the kind of thing that comes as a huge gamble. Â The stylized graphics and gameplay might be the most entertaining thing in the world when it comes out, or it could fall flat on its face and become exceptionally annoying. Â I'm reserving judgement until I see it, but since I'm playing FFXIV now, Wildstar has to jump some higher hurdles. Â It was definitely always going to be more entertaining than EVE, but I'm not sure they can get the complete fun you get out of FFXIV. Â We'll see what happens.

Elder Scrolls Online

This is the problem with being the next "WoW-killer", that term is always a misnomer and sets the bar at an impossibly high level of success. Â Even then, ESO just didn't impress me. Â I had some family beta the game and I got to take their characters for a spin. Â Where FFXIV's combat is deliberate and yet incredibly engaging, I felt divorced from the game world somewhat and the combat was boring. Â REALLY boring. Â I just can't see myself playing it like I play FFXIV.

World of Darkness Online

I'm very, very, VERY skeptical that the company that made EVE and Dust is going to turn a tabletop/LARP game that focuses primarily on drama into an MMORPG video game. Â I know the World of Darkness franchise games are very good and very popular, but these are games that focus almost essentially on dramatic interactions between relatively small numbers of individuals. Â You have to really fight these games to make them fun, action-oriented affairs (my favorite kind of RPG). Â I'm sure it's possible to make a WoD game fun and to give you excuses to boil people's blood in their skin rather than manipulate them into giving you control of the Kentucky National Guard, but CCP is NOT the company that can do that. Â Both of their games are highly numerical affairs, EVE especially being the MBA's MMORPG. Â I would need to hear some spectacular things about this game to make me think it would be any good.

EverQuest Next

I haven't been following it, though I probably should. Â I'll reserve judgement until I have more information on it.

Monster Hunter Online

I'm... conflicted. Â Monster Hunter is, without a doubt, my favorite video game franchise of all time. Â This is despite me hating a lot of the more Japanese elements of the games; charging your sword for a glowy slash kind of hurts the idea that you're staring at a giant drake that can kill you in two good smacks. Â They have a new MMO coming out, but it's being made by Tencent, not Capcom. Â It's being made for a Chinese audience, not Japanese, and no one is talking about a western release yet. Â I'm not even sure that we'll have free hunt, so it might not even be an MMORPG.

Mark my words though, if they ever give an American release to a Monster Hunter MMORPG that they do even half-decently, you won't see me again until you all inevitably migrate to it, for it will be the most awesome game of all time. Â I'm keeping my eyes in Capcom's direction, wondering if they'll ever make my dreams come true.

That's all I've got offhand.

Adolar · **03-10-2014, 01:00 AM**

Anyone heard of Black Desert Online? A friend mentioned this game to me a while back. It's a Korean MMO (GASP!) but it actually has a lot of very sandboxy elements which is a pretty interesting direction considering the state of MMOs today. The game world looks huge and the graphics are pretty awesome. Combat looks like it'll be more action-oriented like how Tera was but that has never really bothered me much. It's probably the only MMO I'm anticipating right now besides FFXIV expansions. I'll hold back my judgment however, until it's actually released, or at least goes into beta. These types of MMOs can go bad very easily if not executed right and I'm just generally very skeptical about MMOs in general...

Anyway, here's a trailer of the game for anyone interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNFSw107MQs

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