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02-27-2013, 02:06 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-01-2013, 12:45 PM by Eva.)
S-E finally gave us some specific information so I'll paste here from Myllor's post, further down in this thread:

Male Roegadyn         7'0.1"    7'3.4"    7'6.7"
Female Roegadyn     6'3.6"    6'9.6"    7'3.7"
Male Elezen              6'4.4"    6'7.5"    6'10.2"
Female Elezen          6'0.2"    6'3.2"    6'6.1"    
Male Highlander        6'0.2"    6'3.8"    6'6.8"
Female Highlander    5'6.2"     5'11"     6'1.8"
Male Midlander         5'6.1"     5'8.9"    5'11.6"
Female Midlander     5'2"        5'4.5"    5'7.1"
Male Miqo'te            5'2.7"     5'5.4"    5'8.2"
Female Miqo'te        4'10.9"    5'1.4"    5'3.8"
Male Lalafell             2'10.2"    3'0.2"    3'2.2"
Female Lalafell          2'10.2"    3'0.2"    3'2.2"

The numbers in each row are what the game regards as minimum, average, and maximum height for each race/gender pairing (and clan in the case of hyur).

I'm also leaving Selene's chart since it's still accurate and derives from screenshots rather than observational data:
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It seems like there might be some benefit for the creation of wikis and such to establish the approximate height ranges for each of the races (and in the case of the hyur each of the two clans).  This was hashed over awhile back in some other thread.

Some friends and I recently got together to discuss this in much greater detail.  We pored over some screenshots and what we knew from 1.0 coupled with the information that has been given so far about ARR and we've established the following guidelines which we hope may help during the character creation process or when trying to discern exactly how tall "tall" might be.  Please note that these are not rules etched in stone but rather a suggested guideline based on a series of observations agreed upon by several of us. We thought this might be helpful for some RPers.

Please take this for what it is, as this is based on the character sizes as they are represented in game.  There is nothing here to suggest that you cannot make your character taller than the maximum or shorter than the minimum if you so wish, but it may help to illustrate how the height ranges of the races intersect with one another.

Maybe someone will find it helpful.  Wink

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More Helpful Chart (courtesy of Selene Artemis):
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Low - (Avg.) - High - Race Name
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6'7" - (7'2") - 7'7" - Roegadyn Male
6'0" - (6'9") - 7'4" - Roegadyn Female
6'3" - (6'7") - 7'0" - Elezen Male
5'7" - (5'11") - 6'6" - Elezen Female
5'10" - (6'5") - 6'9" - Highlander Hyur Male
5'5" - (5'10") - 6'2" - Highlander Hyur Female
5'4" - (5'8") - 6'2" - Midlander Hyur Male
4'10" - (5'3") - 5'9" - Midlander Hyur Female
5'0" - (5'5") - 5'7" - Miqo'te Male
4'8" - (5'0") - 5'4" - Miqo'te Female
2'9" - (2'11") - 3'2" - Lalafell Male
2'9" - (2'11") - 3'2" - Lalafell Female


A super special thank you to the following people for helping me establish these figures:  Nel, Selene, Ellie, Garaf, Kylin, Isilme, Aysun, Manari, and Rora.  Also thanks to everyone on the RPC who has shown interest in this project and its progress.  Perhaps someday in the not-too-distant future we can provide a bit more detail about how we came to some of these numbers but for now we do seem in agreement of their relative accuracy.

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RE: Character Heights: Some Observations |
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02-27-2013, 03:14 AM
Amazebaaaaaaaalls

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02-27-2013, 03:50 AM
Awesome, I was hoping to come across something like this, and it seems you guys know what you're doing so.. a big thank you to all involved in compiling this list! Big Grin

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02-27-2013, 07:59 AM
What a great reference! Thanks for putting this together!
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02-27-2013, 08:05 AM
This works perfectly for Rhostel's height. Smile
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02-27-2013, 11:10 PM
Thank you for working on this!


Perhaps some of the artists could get together and make one of those "line up" images like they have in various D&D books after everything is "finalized", to a point, for a more visual reference? The current graph does help, but I've noticed people tend to have an easier time connecting with the "line up" style height guides.

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02-27-2013, 11:19 PM
Guess that means I gotta fix Isaac's height. It's better this way anyway, thanks!

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02-27-2013, 11:38 PM
Yeah, I need to fix Rhio's height a bit as well. (She's tall for a miqo'te, but she's still short in the grand scheme of things. I aimed a bit too high despite that, mostly because everyone in a Final Fantasy game is tall by normal human standards.)

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02-28-2013, 12:31 AM
(02-27-2013, 11:10 PM)Darkfae Wrote: Thank you for working on this!


Perhaps some of the artists could get together and make one of those "line up" images like they have in various D&D books after everything is "finalized", to a point, for a more visual reference? The current graph does help, but I've noticed people tend to have an easier time connecting with the "line up" style height guides.

Something like this has already been done and finalized by one of the participants of this group, but we didn't want to take any chances with regards to the NDA and such.  I plan to update the OP of this thread with some more information - including that wonderful rendition to accompany the chart - once that has been lifted.  I can certainly appreciate how that might be more helpful than the bar chart provided. I will also add that it looks AWESOME and can't wait until we can do that~

I believe I may be adjusting my own character's height somewhat, as well.  Smile

Thank you for the feedback so far.  I'm glad this was worth the effort.

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03-02-2013, 12:45 PM
Like I said in my +Rep to you, Eva, great work. It's obvious you put a lot of thought and consideration in to this, and once the NDA is lifted and images of comparison can be better pored over without issues of disclosure, it'll be fun to test the accuracy of this.

I'm oddly surprised at one or two of the results, particularly how Elezen Female can be dwarfed by Highlander Hyur Males. That definitely throws me for a loop considering how the rest of the scale progressively slides down by race for the most part.  Male Miqo'te height also surprises me, though I guess not too much if they had to keep them within a similar range as their female counterparts.

If this holds up during Open Beta, looks like Sati will be getting a bit off the top to better accommodate to the high end of the scale. Laugh  Do you intend to also put out more specific numbers to all five height options we've seen in Character Creation videos SE has put out, or just keep it to Low/Avg/High?

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(03-02-2013, 12:45 PM)Satisiun Wrote: Like I said in my +Rep to you, Eva, great work. It's obvious you put a lot of thought and consideration in to this, and once the NDA is lifted and images of comparison can be better pored over without issues of disclosure, it'll be fun to test the accuracy of this.

To clarify, it has been tested. These heights were derived in a complicated way based on a series of planned screenshots of every race/gender at the average and extreme heights given to us as options in game. Using the "average male height," others heights (very short and very tall) were determined. The testing is done, and it is SO accurate. Smile Very proud of Eva for all the work she put into this in measuring and determining heights.

This deserves a sticky~

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03-02-2013, 10:12 PM
Agreed. It'll be very helpful for new people who are having height issues. Now if only someone could explain weight to me... O_O

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Weight is the result of the force gravity exerts upon your body mass. Due to the strong gravitational force of the planet, weight is constant on the Earth's surface and provides a constant force pulling you downward toward the planet, meaning in essence that you are always exerting a force equal to your mass multiplied by acceleration due to gravity. The metric unit for weight is the newton, the imperial unit for weight is the pound.

A common misconception among Americans is that grams measure weight, when in fact they measure mass. Thus, while your mass in kilograms would be constant if you moved from the Earth to the moon, your weight in pounds would not.

If you need weight explained further, I'm sure I could offer some suggestions.

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Lol, really, Rhio? Really?

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(03-02-2013, 10:22 PM)Rhio Wrote: Weight is the result of the force gravity exerts upon your body mass.  Due to the strong gravitational force of the planet, weight is constant on the Earth's surface and provides a constant force pulling you downward toward the planet, meaning in essence that you are always exerting a force equal to your mass multiplied by acceleration due to gravity.  The metric unit for weight is the newton, the imperial unit for weight is the pound.

A common misconception among Americans is that grams measure weight, when in fact they measure mass.  Thus, while your mass in kilograms would be constant if you moved from the Earth to the moon, your weight in pounds would not.

If you need weight explained further, I'm sure I could offer some suggestions.

Touche....

In the future, I'll be more specific. For now, I suppose I'll writhe in my own shame.

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