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Caex Vaeriar · **11-04-2013, 08:37 PM**

So, I'm thinking about going to Gilgamesh, and one of the biggest things that makes me pause whenever I go to make an RP character in an established universe is the name of the character.Â

'Caex Vaeriar' is a traditional name that I have loved for a long time. It has a deep meaning to me on a personal/OoC level, and maintaining as much of the original name as possible is important to me.Â

That said, I also wish to make sure to update the name in such a way that it fits in with the lore standards presented by the Keepers of the Moon. As the character is a male, it means he will inherit his mother surname, as well as her original name, thus resulting in a possible maintaining of the original name. (The 'x' could be seen as an abbreviated way of writing the name to compensate for the 'hk' many names show, though I may change it to Caehk for that reason.)Â

I was curious if anyone could offer insight that might have a better grasp of naming convention for me. Any advice is appreciated.

Aysun · **11-04-2013, 08:53 PM**

Caehk'a Vaeriar seems Miqo-ish enough to me. Males are numbered in Keeper naming. 'a is first son born.

(PS it's "Miqo'te")

Freemoon · **11-04-2013, 08:53 PM**

Well you already seem to have seen the naming conventions, so you've probably got a page like this one to call on.

If you really wanted, you could use the name you wanted (provided it is available, of course) and work up a reason why it may not follow traditional naming conventions. Â It could be an alias or a false identity created for who knows what reason, or you could say the spelling and/or pronunciation of the name is similar to how some names in real life languages and cultures are altered slightly for another language (an example being some Super Sentai translations call a specific character "Mare", but the official translation is apparently "Mea").

Olofantur · **11-04-2013, 08:58 PM**

EDIT: skip post, answers already posted above, dang, too late.

Hello Caex,

I'll preface my statement with a big fat "Miqo'te are not really my thing, so I operate on forum posts and likely miss many of the nuances afforded to the fluffy people"

Have you had the chance to read over the offical lore post at:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threa...onventions

Unless i'm missing something, a simple work around would be to simply take the name you have planned, and add one of the male suffixes to the forename. For example if we suppose you were the first born son of Caex Vaeriar, you would be Caex'a Vaeriar. (You could of course use the other suffixes depending on which order of son you wanted to be.) I'm unsure if the name over all is sufficiently "keeper" though I understand they are usually 2 syllabic forenames such as you have.

As an aside, while I totally dig the keeping of OOC significance, I think its important to analyze why you want to keep it an whether or not it meshes with the underlying current of the game world. I worked a subtle reference into my own name by making it a contraction of a "proper" Elezen name. But to each their own, I just like to think about those things I suppose.

Caex Vaeriar · **11-04-2013, 10:12 PM**

Thank you all for the very quick responses. It's still something I'm looking at, but the advice is definitely welcomed.Â

@ Olofantur - It's purely a personal thing, and thus if it is not something I can keep, can be discarded - but there is a strong affinity to that name. I have read that topic, and likewise know the intricicies of having multiple -' names. The base name is where I struggle at the moment. ^^

@Freemoon aye, that's a good idea and would be great to use as a later-resort if need be. Smile

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@Aysun Blast it all! I always mispell things. Bah!Â

Caehk'(whatever) would create a hissing sound on the end as-is customary with many of the names. It's part of the reason I considered that change, but I really do fight myself to keep things as IC-ly appropriate as possible. That's why I'm concerned - 'ish' is just something that tends not to cut it for me.

Freemoon · **11-05-2013, 12:46 AM**

(11-04-2013, 10:12 PM)Caex Vaeriar Wrote: Caehk'(whatever) would create a hissing sound on the end as-is customary with many of the names. It's part of the reason I considered that change, but I really do fight myself to keep things as IC-ly appropriate as possible. That's why I'm concerned - 'ish' is just something that tends not to cut it for me.

Another option to keep the original spelling to a degree would be a mix of Keeper and Seeker naming conventions. Â Using Seeker male naming, you could use C'aex. It might be a bit of a stretch, but the wiki article points out at least one NPC that is clearly a Keeper model that uses Seeker naming conventions, and I've seen at least a few players using a mix of naming conventions while running around in game.

I hope you find a way that you feel works for you and that you feel works within the naming conventions of the lore. Â I've got a couple names I really like using in MMOs myself for similar reasons, and I just couldn't figure a way to make either of them work with Miqo'te naming conventions.

Lament · **11-07-2013, 03:45 AM**

Actually, the 'C' in C-tribe names has a short 'Ka' sound:

Quote:C: Coeurl (short Ka)

So for the same sound, you'd have C'ex. Which... is weird, so you could go for your 'hk' idea: C'ehk. Though the sound would be ka-EX, which may not be what you have in mind.

Freemoon · **11-07-2013, 06:22 AM**

(11-07-2013, 03:45 AM)Lament Wrote: Actually, the 'C' in C-tribe names has a short 'Ka' sound:

Quote:C: Coeurl (short Ka)

So for the same sound, you'd have C'ex. Which... is weird, so you could go for your 'hk' idea: C'ehk. Though the sound would be ka-EX, which may not be what you have in mind.

That is partly why I said it was a stretch, but sometimes wanting to use a specific name in an MMO is less about the pronunciation and more about having a certain spelling or very much near it. Â

For instance, when I use a name with "Ali" (such as Alicia or Alikathra), I still want the Ali part to sound like Ali, so A'likathra wouldn't work for me. Â On the other hand, when I want to use something like Kaelia or Ilanwod, it is more about the spelling than the pronunciation, so using K'aelia or I'lanwod is fine even though it would make the name sound completely different. Â Â

This is also why I didn't end up adapting any of my preferred names directly to Miqo'te naming conventions. Â I couldn't find a way to adapt them that I would be happy with that also fit the naming conventions.

Creating a name... (Miquo'te)

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