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***Maril*** · **11-01-2014, 12:31 PM**

These gifs accurately depict how I feel after finally getting to the point of trying some rotations, only to bash my head against the RNG-wall of doom.Â

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Please send help.Â

(and gil)
(and chocolate)

Berrod Armstrong · **11-01-2014, 12:36 PM**

lost my shit at the first one

Oscare · **11-01-2014, 12:46 PM**

I'm sorry but I'm fully convinced that the crafting in this game is way more of a raid and end game than the coils at this point

Chika Ito · **11-01-2014, 12:50 PM**

That first one describes everything perfectly. I agree with Oscare. They're making crafting way more challenging than it honestly needs to be. In my opinion they should have just stopped with master crafting. That, in itself, is a challenge. Now they release 4 star, which is even harder and costs more money. I wish you luck with it though! Let me know if you 4 star carpentry *nods*

Kellach Woods · **11-01-2014, 02:00 PM**

(11-01-2014, 12:46 PM)Oscare Wrote: I'm sorry but I'm fully convinced that the crafting in this game is way more of a raid and end game than the coils at this point

Considering that for some of these recipes you actually need to do some end-game content, yes.

Ilwe'ran · **11-01-2014, 04:28 PM**

Begin by crafting your tools (welcome to the 1st hell with the only 4% basis with HQ mats).

How to make the new tokens in HQ :

Cross skill needed :

Waste not II
Byregoth's Blessing
Tricks of the Trade
Comfort Zone
Hasty Touch
Steady Hand II
Piece by Piece
Rapid Synthesis
Careful Synthesis II
RECLAIM

Food & Stuff needed :
Food : Bouillabaisse HQ.
Stuff : At Best Supra hand, Artisan off hand melded and your i55 gear / jewells FULL MELDED. As any other craft, the better geared you are the easier it is.
Buff : Of course FC buff is a +.

Rotation :
â™¥ = Trick of the Trade

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Simulator Result (in japanese)
You can cry a bit more as the simulation was made with those stats : 452 craftmanship 407 control 352 CP

I hope that will help you. PERSEVERE, that's the things you will need the most and good luck â™¥

***Maril*** · **11-01-2014, 04:45 PM**

Yeah that's the rotation I've seen on the reddit as well, however I have optimized it to suit the stats I have (Supra+New offhand half melded) a little better, and then I have been experimenting with another skill as well. Still the rotation itself only has like a 20% chance to get the right procs and even after that it can still fail to HQ. Not to mention reclaim has failed me 3 times already X_XÂ

I honestly think they went a bit too far in the difficulty here, I'd be fine with it if it wasn't so damned expensive. I've spent about 2 million so far.

Ilwe'ran · **11-01-2014, 05:00 PM**

They did went too far. Especialy as you only earn some out dated gear in the end that most of people will want only for glamour.

DreamedReality · **11-01-2014, 05:04 PM**

Dunno if this will be helpful to anyone, but I found this lil guide to be quiet helpful. It's broken down into sections based on where you are in gearing up. So jump down to the bottom section for the new stuff.

Ilwe'ran · **11-01-2014, 05:59 PM**

Yes, the melding part is useful and makes me wonder if I'll ever bother seeing that, in the end, you just earn +9 control when you have the 3 pieces compared to if you have your gear melded. Nice for people who begin crafting to have only 1 gear to meld, but kinda pointless for those who are fully melded unless they need a small control push for HQ.

Kellach Woods · **11-01-2014, 06:38 PM**

(11-01-2014, 05:00 PM)Ilwe Wrote: They did went too far. Especialy as you only earn some out dated gear in the end that most of people will want only for glamour.

And unlike raiding, they didn't make it easier to break in.

Although I guess running Gatherer 50 helps in spending less money, you still have to spend a ton, and I've barely 20k to my name.

Ilwe'ran · **11-01-2014, 06:44 PM**

(11-01-2014, 06:38 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote:
(11-01-2014, 05:00 PM)Ilwe Wrote: They did went too far. Especialy as you only earn some out dated gear in the end that most of people will want only for glamour.
And unlike raiding, they didn't make it easier to break in.

Yes, they did for gathering (they lowered the min gathering of the rare nodes) but that's true, they did nothing to ease the crafting.. Instead they force people to spend their money on desynth..

Kellach Woods · **11-01-2014, 07:09 PM**

When did they do that? I didn't notice anything on Mining - at least the entry levels.

Ilwe'ran · **11-01-2014, 07:44 PM**

(11-01-2014, 07:09 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: When did they do that? I didn't notice anything on Mining - at least the entry levels.

At the update

Quote:The gathering rating required to harvest items at the following gathering points has been lowered from 370 to 353:
South Shroud
Unspoiled Mature Tree: Fragrant Log
Unspoiled Rocky Outcrop: Umbral Rock, Grade 3 Shroud Topsoil

Middle La Noscea
Unspoiled Rocky Outcrop: Grade 3 La Noscean Topsoil

Western Thanalan
Unspoiled Rocky Outcrop: Grade 3 Thanalan Topsoil

Also the very firsts ones (like the Gold ore for example for miner) don't have any min gathering requirement now.

Reshie · **11-01-2014, 07:53 PM**

I feel your pain! I'm still trying to get high enough to make three star items. Frustrated

Â The four star... it breaks my heart but I probably won't hit that achievement until they come out with five stars. Tongue

Â Thanks you to the person who posted how to make the four star items! I'm going to review it and see if I can do it once I get all of my gear melded properly.

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