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Re: The RPC: Where do we go from here? - Magnus - 10-18-2011
Well. I may as well throw in my views as well. As a Casual player and Light RPer.
I view the RPC as a Server based community site focusing on RP. It is not an in-game entity, it is not an out of game social group. I could get the information from the Besaid forum on Loadstone or Core. I come here because it has information relative to me as an RPer. News of what LS's are doing, what events are occurring, and I enjoy reading the story-lines of other characters.
The announcement of 2.0 this will bring in a new influx of players. So I say out with the old and in with the new! We do have another year to get this ironed out. We can make a road map just like SE did! With that I agree that re-branding would be a good idea. Change the name, change the layout and new people would never know the Coalition existed. This page is the first on Googles' list when searching for Roleplaying sites for FFXIV that should be a huge advantage to attract new people.
I also agree with Eva in that the wall of text may put off new people to this discussion. I TL
R ed most of Rain's and Oskar's discussion, Sorry but I did. I did get the Highlights of the OP but still skipped around. Ages ago there was a discussion about how the page should be ran and more Blah blah blah. As of late, probably due to low numbers, it as been what I've expected in a Community site. An open forum to post IC and OOC news, LS listing and events, and I've always loved the Wiki of lore and characters that was created.I do feel that Kylin and Verence should chime in with their views. Not as Admins of the page but as fellow members of the community.
Hey that was a bit longer than I thought! So much for no wall of text...
Re: The RPC: Where do we go from here? - Verence - 10-19-2011
I'd been planning on doing this for a few days now, but RL has once again clubbed me over the head. To avoid any confusion, I'm not an admin here, just a member of the RPC community and head of one of the linkshells which comprises it. Regardless, just a few comments... I still intend to stay out of sharing opinions myself, as I think I've done more than enough in my original posts, but I do wish to say a few things about the thread and discussion thus far, as well as attempt to clarify the thought and intent behind my initial post. Let's see if I can keep it brief! (I probably can't.)
First off, I'd like to ask that posters be a bit more mindful of how they come across. Tone is huge - people often listen more to method than message! If we don't approach this from a mindset of "How can we all play along, even if we disagree (especially if we disagree)", we're not going to even get out the starter gate. That's part of why I proposed a minimalist approach - less for people to disagree with!
I didn't post what I did so much from a perspective of "How do we refactor the RPC" but "How do we, as members of the community, change how we think and relate to each other so we can all get along and RP free of drama and misunderstanding". Any necessary changes to the RPC I believe would follow naturally as a consequence of that, if the community could reach a point of all-inclusive acceptance and understanding (or at least enough so that we aren't bickering or drawing imaginary lines). Diving straight into what to do with the RPC site itself is cart before the horse, if you ask me. Get people willing and able to freely communicate without butting heads and I think a clearer picture will emerge on its own.
That's also why I think as many voices being heard here as possible is absolutely essential. I sent PMs to each of the RPC-listed linkshell leaders with a link to this thread, asking that they inform their members, but as of this posting I haven't seen any posts regarding this... It's entirely possible I simply missed them or it went up on private portions of the forum that a visitor simply can't see, but just to be safe, after posting this I'm going to be making the rounds and posting myself to insure visibility.
Due to what will hopefully be an influx of new readers, I'd like to draft a new discussion suggestion: If you find yourself in a sharp difference of opinion with someone, rather than start a debate in the thread, try contacting them privately via /tell, PM, IM, or the like. Debates on forums often become a war of statements rather than actual communication, and the walls of text generated can discourage those trying to get a handle on the situation. Talking person-to-person changes the atmosphere and can help you refine your views, see what you agree on, and what your differences are. Then you can bring your conclusions back to the table so we can all see what you've come up with.
The apparent conflict raised in the etiquette I see as no conflict myself, just a turn of phrasing. You're allowed to discuss things and bring up relevant points that involve specific people or groups, but be clear when you do so. However, you are not permitted to abuse them for the purpose of attacks or accusations. We're here to discuss and learn, not fight.
As for the etiquette details, some of the content in the above posts have been flirting with the line between OK and not OK. Castiel's concerned about bringing down the mod-hammer on it due to some of the points raised in this very discussion and the fact that it's borderline and not blatant violation, but I'd again appeal to a spirit of "how do we work together to move ahead". Castiel and I disagree on a number of things, but the fact that this thread and this discussion continue to stand uncontested I believe is the first inkling of what I sincerely hope is a greater cooperation in the future. We don't need to agree, but we do need to get along if this ship's going to get us anywhere.
LATER EDIT:
I suppose I ought to clarify so as not to cause misunderstandings; I'm actually not referring to the points raised in the discussion itself, but rather the tone taken. Some of it is unnecessarily aggressive.
Re: The RPC: Where do we go from here? - Sayuri - 10-19-2011
Alright, I managed to read through that, though I did skim over Rain and Oskar's debate.
I speak as a LS leader- though NOT for my linkshell. They have their own opinions, and can voice it themselves.
Pretty much everything I thought was vital, has been covered. I'd just like to remind others that I am open to doing cross-LS events, in fact, I really, really, REALLY want to do them! It's pretty much why I created Alliance of Defiance. To clash with the various 'good' linkshells who aspire for peace and prosperity in Eorzea. Hehe. Of course, ground rules will need to be laid which I am willing to discuss. So far, only Kylin has approached me on this subject. (And I should probably get back to him on that..life escaped me for a bit).
so, just a reminder I am more than willing to get together with other RP groups.
That being said, if the RPC takes off again, you all can bet your hinies that I'll nudge my LS members who are not already on the RPC to join up. The most common deterrant it seems, is the fact there's just too many threads, most of which are inactive. Less is most certainly more, when your trying to find a specific event thread or discussion. Even I have a hard time navigating this site at times, it's unwieldy. Like trying to find a specific word in a dictionary that's not alphabetized.
Those are my thoughts for now- I'll come back and add more later if I see fit.
Re: The RPC: Where do we go from here? - ZephyoFire - 10-26-2011
New guy here, with my two cents:
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I've noticed that with a lot of the content changes over the last two months that there has been a huge out-dating on the various FFXIV wikis that nobody has bothered to update. That and the wikis were never very comprehensive to begin with, and just copy-pasted a lot of the material from the main site into their wiki.
To increase the site's activity and involvement from the community, why not add usefulness - have a comprehensive, up-to-date wiki on Eorzea's History, Character Classes, Class Skills, Recipes, etc. That way, you appeal to the old RPers by having a comprehensive listing of the history and cultures of FFXIV so as to help in the process of character creation in a "no spin zone" of Lore, as well as appeal to and draw in new RPers with a sound reference wiki of game mechanics and quest guides.
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That, and (on a completely unrelated note) maybe change the background of the input screen for making a new post - it's freaking hard to keep track of the mouse cursor with this color of background. ^_^;
Anyway, that's my input - I hope it helps!