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Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Merri - 07-27-2012
Leanna Wrote:Something someone posted on the Lodestone that is interesting:
Quote:The trailer says that "we were sent beyond the reach of time where we remained until now" this is in no way insinuating that we are sent to the future. The trailer is stating that we are sent to a place where nothing happens, a dead zone or limbo if you will. The trailer also shows that he is standing in what looks like a battle field with no people and a hole tears open walking through it.<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/50477-The-trailer-says-nothing-about-time-travel">http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/thre ... ime-travel</a><!-- m -->.
So what I believe happens is in a last ditch effort to protect the only people that can save the realm he send us to a place where time stands still until we can safely return to kick major ass.
Discuss.
So it's like i was asking about. It's not exactly time traveling, from the way it sounds.
That's actually what I inferred myself, but I'd still consider it time travel. The "bravest" would simply be frozen in time, and unfrozen when they would be needed most. While it's not time travel in the sense of going from point A to point B, it's inferred that some form of time does pass back in Eorzea, and therefor it could still be considered time travel as we'd be moving from the "past" (present) to the future.
The more I think about the entire concept, the more indifferent I grow about it. While there's plenty of negatives, there's room to make positives out of the bad. Having a character stay behind and weather the era (depending on the length of the time skip) while others move forward could add interesting dynamics to the relationships. Something tells me the time skip might only be something as small a five years, though, given the nature of the events. If it's twenty years after Dalamud has razed Eorzea and the Garleans still haven't conquered it, that would be pretty laughable.
Unless of course there's some unseen event that has prevented them from doing so, such as the beast tribes and the primals giving them a lot of trouble.
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Lenana - 07-27-2012
Well, Dalamud could put the Garleans back a bit on conquering Eorzea, which may make longer than 5 years make sense.
(And lets not forget that it will take a long time for the factions to rebuild, so I think the time skip would be longer than five years.)
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - NKato - 07-29-2012
Guys. The Cavernous Maws from FFXI were based on Atmos from FF9.
When you consider the lore involving Atmos, it makes sense that Louisoix would send you into a sort of limbo inside Atmos' realm or something to that effect.
Funny how nobody has guessed at this particular theory and keeps grabbing at only the FFXI connection.
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Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - E'irawen - 07-29-2012
I'm glad this thread was posted! I posted one asking similar questions before, but we didn't have much info- if any at all- regarding how transitions into 2.0 is going to work.
Up unto this point I've felt guilty for not actively engaging in RP...but now I'm almost seeing it as a blessing in disguise? I may not do anything with Ezreal at all until after 2.0 is up and running, so I know exactly what was going on. His history can be flexible, regardless if I wanted him to be considered a 1.0 character or not... but, to be fairly honest, it just seems easier and far less of a hassle and headache to just...wait. Lol. I certainly do hope this doesn't make me a lazy individual?
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Yssen - 07-29-2012
Couple things.
The lore up on the teaser trailer sight states that the Empire starts advancing again in 1571, using the catastrophe of the 7th Umbral Era starting to their advantage (sneaky sneaky Garleans). We can make an educated guess as to when now is based of of the year 1557 being the date used for the fall of Ala Mhigo, and the previous halt of the Imperial advance. This does not help us much with determining the length of the alleged time skip, but it does give us a starting off point. We can assume that "characters beyond the reach of time" will be brought back sometime after 1571.
Like it or not, time travel has been a factor in FF since the first game. It is also a central theme of several core FF games (8 and 10 come to mind, also XIII-2). While a terrible concept when handled poorly, time travel is also an interesting concept and can be handled well. We must remember that in the end, whether a character is sent out of time or not will be each individual player's decision for their character(s). We also know that there will be at least one month of inactivity between when they shut the game down to convert over to 2.0, and when we start having access again. In fact, there have been no explicit guarantees that all of us will have access to the game at the same time. They have stated that they have no determining factors of priority for player access during the period before the relaunch, and that they will work on converting characters as fast as possible.
With a time skip of unknown length looming, and at least a month before any of us could have access to 2.0, RP and collaborative stories on these forums will become important, just like they were before the actual game launch. Whatever individual choices are made in regards to the time skip and time travel, we must remember that we are a community here to tell stories, and using the forums to determine what happens in supposed "limbo" or the intervening march of time will told here. I look forward to seeing and involving myself in those stories. It is what we are here for, right?
Don't panic, don't worry, just adapt. See you all on the other side, however you choose to get there. ;P
- Yssen
PS - Fun factor to think on. When everyone does start emerging from time travel joy, how do you know that the characters you run into post time skip are who they were before. In more ways than one. [Excitement]
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Rhostel - 07-29-2012
Um, Ala Mhigo fell at least 15 years ago, which means it's at least 1572 according to the official calendar. The Empire moving again in 1571 is referring to the start of their current push.
Also, there is no time travel in Final Fantasy X. >_>
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Yssen - 07-29-2012
Maintained alternate timelines are still time travel ;p
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Aysun - 07-29-2012
It is currently 1573. Game launch 1571.
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Riik - 08-06-2012
I personally was planning on Riku being petrified to stone by a powerful Garlean mage, then revived later by another mysterious mage in order to fulfil some kind of role I havn't decided yet... not only would it explain why Riku hasn't aged, but also gives me an actual storyline to work through when 2.0 is out...
but after catching up with this stuff, I'm just not sure what to do >.<
I might stick with my idea just to be different, and to allow the possible story implications brought about by the action to occur.
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Mihana - 08-08-2012
I don't have any plans myself but I do know I have every intention of tweaking whatever "future" deal SE gives us to fit Mihana somehow be it frozen, traveling through time, or whatever. Just because SE decided they need to pull a stunt like this to redo their game doesn't mean I have any intention of aging Mihana by X amount of years or killing her off and making a new identity. She doesn't have the Echo like everyone else as well which will make the entire thing interesting. Same with Calzien's fate, I don't intend to kill off/age him either. As for relations, I've toyed with either the fact Mihana's tribe perishes with it all, or finds refuge likely someplace else sending her on a desperate search to find what fate befell them during the time she had been gone.
All in all I absolutely hate the time-travel thing (It seems so cheap and overdone.) but if that's what they're going to give us to work with I'm using it.
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Reiry - 08-09-2012
I don't really see Reiry at all fitting into the epic hero frozen in time to save the future model. So ideally I would like to re-write her history to match 2.0 changes and modify the name somewhat. Which is where it gets problematic... because it's unclear if we'll get name changes for 2.0 so I feel awkward rping a character that will technically be a completely different (prolly not even born yet) person but have the same name/personality in 2.0.
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Innes - 08-23-2012
Referencing one character background difference between 1.0 players and completely new 2.0 players, i believe the "bravest/strong sent in time" story belongs to all players experiencing 2.0. A new 2.0 player would also assume the role of "returning from being sent in time to forge the fate of Eorzea." Also, our new ingame beginning cutscenes for the characters could add some background as well; i dont believe there is info yet, stating whether there will be three multiple beginning cutscenes to choose from e.g. for each starting city state Uldah Limsa & Gridania, or one universal beginning ingame cutscene. Like many of you have said, theres much to tweak or play with, many scenarios.
I personally like Riku's petrification story. As for my character, i havent put much at all into 1.0. Definitely looking to do much much more in a Realm Reborn.
p.s. thumbs up for this active RP site. hope to join ya'll in the future official or unoffical FFXIV RP server.
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Reiry - 08-24-2012
Ugh, you mean everyone is going to be a legendary hero sent from the past to save future? I didn't really see anything in the videos that confirmed this... though it sounds very plausible for SE. Ah well... I guess there is no reason to hold off on rp if everyone is going to be a legendary hero. /sigh
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Merri - 08-24-2012
Reiry Wrote:Ugh, you mean everyone is going to be a legendary hero sent from the past to save future? I didn't really see anything in the videos that confirmed this... though it sounds very plausible for SE. Ah well... I guess there is no reason to hold off on rp if everyone is going to be a legendary hero. /sigh
Well, it depends. Lore-wise, if even new characters created after A.R.R launches are considered to be from "the past" or whatever 1.0 ends up being, that doesn't necessarily mean that every single person from the A.R.R era is from the past. Whether it's a new world and there's a different version of Eorzeans living there, or it's the future and it's the descendants of people from the past Eorzea..
I highly doubt everyone living in 2.0 will have come from the past. Which, in that case, roleplayers would be more than able to simply say there character has lived in the 2.0 world since they were born, and did not come from the past.
Re: A Realm Reborn, and it's effect on 1.0 characters. [Spoi - Reiry - 08-27-2012
Merri Wrote:Reiry Wrote:Ugh, you mean everyone is going to be a legendary hero sent from the past to save future? I didn't really see anything in the videos that confirmed this... though it sounds very plausible for SE. Ah well... I guess there is no reason to hold off on rp if everyone is going to be a legendary hero. /sigh
Well, it depends. Lore-wise, if even new characters created after A.R.R launches are considered to be from "the past" or whatever 1.0 ends up being, that doesn't necessarily mean that every single person from the A.R.R era is from the past. Whether it's a new world and there's a different version of Eorzeans living there, or it's the future and it's the descendants of people from the past Eorzea..
I highly doubt everyone living in 2.0 will have come from the past. Which, in that case, roleplayers would be more than able to simply say there character has lived in the 2.0 world since they were born, and did not come from the past.
Very true! I'm just not sure how much I want to swim against the current if all the new story/quests/content is built around every PC being sent from the past. Luckily... I have plenty of time to think it over.