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RE: Ala Mhigo - K'tahrl - 05-19-2013
I did read all of it ;P and I think the whole thread was a bit of myself trying to remember that "I am not the main character". Its brought me back down to earth and helped redirect where the building blocks are going to be worked on.Â
When I first thought of this character, it was actually from another persons thread and I was completely hype and like yo this is how its gotta go down and its going to be completely out of this world. Â
I then started to delve into the lore about the Garleans, and the timeline involving them. Their motives, their culture, the people that are identifiable in their ranks (Nael Van Darnus and Gaius van Baelsar specifically) to better understand what I was going to be getting involved in.Â
K'tharl is intended to be a lesser antagonist, so despite that I wasn't aware of the brainwashing that happened in the beginning, it isn't entirely out of the picture since it would just add to a secondary idea I've been tossing around with myself that I'll keep to myself for the time being.Â
Will people be able to learn about you without you talking their ear off for hours about your unnecessarily detailed life story? This is something that is going to be interesting truthfully, because the truth of his origins will be clouded in falsehoods and covering his tracks. (Unless of course he puts himself in a predicament where someone will become suspicious of him and look to delve deeper themselves.)Â Â
TL;DR THE TRUTH IS A LIE! (Also you can't offend/insult me, I want to be brought down a peg, I need to be.)
RE: Ala Mhigo - Uther - 05-19-2013
I guess that's what happens to us fickle types. I've been on this forum for about three weeks and I've already created:
A'sili Abarskyf - Miqo'te/Male/Seeker/Gladiator/Limsa -Â Cancelled for being too complicated and lore-breaking
Abodo Po - Lalafell/Male/Dunesfolk/Black Mage/Ul'dah -Â Cancelled for god-moding
Uther Skystrider - Hyur/Male/Midlander/Dragoon/Ishgard
Granted, with Uther I think I found my niche, and should be satisfied with this character for a while. Instead of taking inspiration from things that were way off topic (Abodo Po was initially inspired by Jules Verne books), I used Kain Highwind from FFIV and the knighthood and chivalry feeling from the King Arthur legend. Both are things I've loved since I was a kid and it wasn't too hard for me to mold them and this game's lore into a character I'm happy with. It just took a while for me to get my head out of the clouds and bring it down to basics. I've adhered as strictly as I can to naming conventions and lore, and I've tried to keep the story simple so I don't have to focus on the past for every decision and my character can effectively have an interesting future with the RPC. I think it's important to remember that your character's adventures are awaiting them at launch, and shouldn't already be behind them by the time they get into the world.
Another thing I did to help kill the "talking your ear off" thing, is extend his deeds a few generations. Instead of having Uther Skystrider somehow be a 24 year old super badass who is already a legend and can do anything and has fought everything, I created his father Skald Skystrider, then his father Skadi Skystrider (going back to his great-great-grandfather but those other two generations are just background info), as well as some brothers and a sister. That effectively explains how Uther knows so much about fighting dragons despite his age, and it helps me not talk about it because no one cares what his family does. It also clears up his life for more adventures instead of ARR just being another notch on the belt.
RE: Ala Mhigo - Rhostel - 05-19-2013
It's important to note that there is an Ala Mhigan resistance, and they have agents who pose as members of the Garlean military. Some of these appeared in the main storyline quests available at launch. While there's a lack of evidence either way for whether Garlean brainwashing is reversible, this at least demonstrates a strong possibility that it can be resisted (no pun intended).
RE: Ala Mhigo - Yssen - 05-20-2013
Parade raining mark two. I will try not to make a habit of this. The Ala Mhigan resistance is pretty much wiped out by the Black Wolf at the end of the original 1.0 main scenario. It exists no more. Gaius van Baelsar lured them, trapped them, and slaughtered them. To add insult to injury, he then rounded up all the citizens and children they were protecting and had them brainwashed and sent back to Garlemald to be trained as Imperial soldiers. Scary scary, bad man. There were several Ala Mhigan refugees trying to earn money to mount a new resistance effort, but no such thing has taken shape as of Dalamud's crash down and the burning dragon fun times. The fall of the resistance is actually one of the catalysts for the remaining City-States recreating the Grand Companies and the Alliance.
This is not to say that one cannot factor the resistance into back story, one just has to resolve the fact that they were pretty much all killed.
RE: Ala Mhigo - Rhostel - 05-20-2013
OBJECTION! That has nothing to do with what I was saying. It's entirely irrelevant whether members of an active resistance movement were killed, only that they prove resistance to Garlean brainwashing techniques is plausible. Thus, someone in Ala Mhigo could potentially be free willed but not actively resisting the Garleans. Perhaps out of fear, maybe from being incredibly deep undercover, or perhaps even from a genuine belief in Garlemald's motives.
And just to rain on your parade, like you said, there's room for a new resistance to be formed. Or even remnants of the resistance who weren't there (even if it was claimed they all were, given that resistance movements tend to keep their true numbers secret even from their own). Heck, there might even be a separate resistance movement that existed alongside the one that got wiped out, but never interacted with them due to mistrust, and survived due to that trait.
Any of these could be played with without breaking the setting. Remember, NPCs can only say what they know that they want you to know. Anything there's no physical proof against and never can be is where we make our stories. The existence of resistance fighters so secretive that the Garleans don't know about them is one such possibility. Just keep in mind that in order to be so secret, they'd have to take only the most subtle actions against the Empire, and it's fine. No worries about contradicting anything in the future.
RE: Ala Mhigo - Uther - 05-20-2013
(05-20-2013, 01:55 AM)Rhostel Wrote: And just to rain on your parade, like you said, there's room for a new resistance to be formed. Or even remnants of the resistance who weren't there (even if it was claimed they all were, given that resistance movements tend to keep their true numbers secret even from their own). Heck, there might even be a separate resistance movement that existed alongside the one that got wiped out, but never interacted with them due to mistrust, and survived due to that trait.
I agree with this statement.
Historically, almost every occupied nation has had multiple resistance movements. Since they're obviously not sanctioned by a single governing body, it stands to reason that any motivated individual or group can begin a resistance movement. That's just how the world works. Whether the official Ala Mhigan resistance was wiped out is irrelevant. Just like in the real world, there's bound to be more.
RE: Ala Mhigo - Merri - 05-21-2013
I had been watching this thread, but didn't really feel like I had anything to add to the discussion, so I've refrained from posting anything. However, having just recently picked away at all the Ala Mhigan lore in my head, I remembered something that actually sort of answers the most recent debate we have going on here. The following are major spoilers for certain quests that might still be around in some form in 2.0.
RE: Ala Mhigo - Stormlight - 06-28-2013
Could someone give me, or point me toward, more information about the Ala Mhigan resistance? I'd like to know where they were based and details of their destruction, but any information would be appreciated.