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RE: Grindstone New Ideas - LiadansWhisper - 10-10-2013
I heard you needed healers... LOL
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - AdmiralSnackbar - 10-10-2013
Two words. And these are important.
Are you ready?
You sure?
Ok.
Here we go.
DANCE OFFS.
*Drops mic, exits stage*
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Sigyn Shieldbreaker - 10-10-2013
Well, we know because science has proven...
River > Fire. Q_Q
We do absolutely need healers and an organizer for said healers. These would have to be dedicated healers as well who are willing to show up for this Blood Match event. Likely it would only be held once or twice a month so I hope that wouldn't be too difficult.
Also Tau...
Yanno Sio'd win that right? Imagine it...
![[Image: dancing-2.gif]](http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee331/glittergdoll123/anime%20dance%20party/dancing-2.gif)
Sio and Qaeli.
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Gharen - 10-10-2013
One thing about holding multiple fights especially in close proximity is as Sio has mentioned is the rp spam of not only the fighters but the spectators as well. Simple fix is to spread fights out so that the log isn't just flying by. Having the "rings" spread out so fights are out of earshot will make things easier on the fighters especially so things are not missed, Grindstone Overseer's will be needed to watch the fights so that Sio is not doing all the work in a very confined space.
The fights are currently held like this unless things have changed over the last few days I've been chained up in the salt mines. (i.e. work)
A B C D
Having the rings this close together with spectators to the side while nice and compact creates a stream of things going on that is difficult to keep up with. Having things spread out like below will cut back on spam and be a step in a direction where we might be able to do larger tourneys.
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Or
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Thoughts?
Added thought: Sio+Qaeli Dance off = nose bleeds for everyone.
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Sigyn Shieldbreaker - 10-10-2013
You're right, Gharen. Originally it was my intention that the Overseers watch each fight separately. Sadly some of our Overseers fight as well. I really need someone to organize a list of people and I wish I could elect officers for this purpose and differentiate ranks but I can't in the LS.
We could use a new area somewhere in Thanalan. Someplace large, easy to reach, and relatively clear and flat. If you know any place, please post a map picture and if you can, a screenshot. I appreciate all the help thus far, you know I love you guys.
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Gharen - 10-10-2013
So, we could establish a rule that overseers can participate in events in a cycle. For instance I'm only ever able to make it to every other Weds tourney, so for me I'd only be able to fight in one tourney, then ref the next. I have no issues with taking on the added responsibility of solely reffing matches either to take up the slack just so long as I get some out of tourney challenges from time to time. Gharen still has to rematch Sio (effing dice lol)
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Fen - 10-11-2013
I would just put it out there that... the current model for the Grindstone is pretty awesome as it is. New innovation isn't necessarily... um... necessary, at this point, in my opinion. Cool ideas are cool, but the Grindstone doesn't necessarily have to change in some big way.
Just my two gil, of course.
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Sigyn Shieldbreaker - 10-11-2013
(10-11-2013, 01:46 PM)Fen Wrote: I would just put it out there that... the current model for the Grindstone is pretty awesome as it is. New innovation isn't necessarily... um... necessary, at this point, in my opinion. Cool ideas are cool, but the Grindstone doesn't necessarily have to change in some big way.
Just my two gil, of course.
Sadly, something -does- have to change. Two days out of the week doesn't seem like a big deal or anything but I have a baby and trying to force him to go to sleep early on nights he doesn't want to sleep is not conducive to a good mother-baby relationship. I'm always worried the tourney's not going to get off the ground without me.
Not to mention as they are now they're incredibly chaotic and even I see that. Enjoyable, yes, but chaotic. There just has to be more that can be done.
Changes -are- necessary, but in conjunction to them, additions are what I'm looking at and there don't have to be many but there will be a few. Likely I will just combine one or two of the ideas and use them for blood matches and the rest'll be IC things.
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Fen - 10-11-2013
(10-11-2013, 02:25 PM)Siobhain Wrote:(10-11-2013, 01:46 PM)Fen Wrote: I would just put it out there that... the current model for the Grindstone is pretty awesome as it is. New innovation isn't necessarily... um... necessary, at this point, in my opinion. Cool ideas are cool, but the Grindstone doesn't necessarily have to change in some big way.
Just my two gil, of course.
Sadly, something -does- have to change. Two days out of the week doesn't seem like a big deal or anything but I have a baby and trying to force him to go to sleep early on nights he doesn't want to sleep is not conducive to a good mother-baby relationship. I'm always worried the tourney's not going to get off the ground without me.
Not to mention as they are now they're incredibly chaotic and even I see that. Enjoyable, yes, but chaotic. There just has to be more that can be done.
Changes -are- necessary, but in conjunction to them, additions are what I'm looking at and there don't have to be many but there will be a few. Likely I will just combine one or two of the ideas and use them for blood matches and the rest'll be IC things.
Oh, okay, I see what you're saying, then.
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Sigyn Shieldbreaker - 10-11-2013
(10-11-2013, 02:41 PM)Fen Wrote:(10-11-2013, 02:25 PM)Siobhain Wrote:(10-11-2013, 01:46 PM)Fen Wrote: I would just put it out there that... the current model for the Grindstone is pretty awesome as it is. New innovation isn't necessarily... um... necessary, at this point, in my opinion. Cool ideas are cool, but the Grindstone doesn't necessarily have to change in some big way.
Just my two gil, of course.
Sadly, something -does- have to change. Two days out of the week doesn't seem like a big deal or anything but I have a baby and trying to force him to go to sleep early on nights he doesn't want to sleep is not conducive to a good mother-baby relationship. I'm always worried the tourney's not going to get off the ground without me.
Not to mention as they are now they're incredibly chaotic and even I see that. Enjoyable, yes, but chaotic. There just has to be more that can be done.
Changes -are- necessary, but in conjunction to them, additions are what I'm looking at and there don't have to be many but there will be a few. Likely I will just combine one or two of the ideas and use them for blood matches and the rest'll be IC things.
Oh, okay, I see what you're saying, then.
Gotta trust in me, Fen! When have I ever steered you wrong, bb?!
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Fystrael Abylstyrwyn - 10-11-2013
I've had my fight time and I'm more familiar with Grindstone's fighting concepts, so now I can say I can ref matches, but my Wednesdays are mostly shot by my work schedules and RL family.
Gharen, your suggestion is great. Â Separation would also allow the Overseer to log the fights and then message the logs to me for compiling on the forums. Â The amount of cleaning and editing this would save est vraimente magnifique, monsieur!
Plus, if we keep our location, we could have a stream battle, one in the middle of the training camp, one on the bridge and the vendors/crafters can set up on the shoreline. Â Win/win?
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Sigyn Shieldbreaker - 10-11-2013
(10-11-2013, 03:34 PM)Fystrael Abylstyrwyn Wrote: I've had my fight time and I'm more familiar with Grindstone's fighting concepts, so now I can say I can ref matches, but my Wednesdays are mostly shot by my work schedules and RL family.
Gharen, your suggestion is great. Â Separation would also allow the Overseer to log the fights and then message the logs to me for compiling on the forums. Â The amount of cleaning and editing this would save est vraimente magnifique, monsieur!
Plus, if we keep our location, we could have a stream battle, one in the middle of the training camp, one on the bridge and the vendors/crafters can set up on the shoreline. Â Win/win?
That's not a bad idea but for time's sake we'll need to set up two more groups. What we might have to do is go out there and test the distance of our /say so that none of the fighters are overlapping.
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Gharen - 10-11-2013
(10-11-2013, 02:25 PM)Siobhain Wrote:(10-11-2013, 01:46 PM)Fen Wrote: I would just put it out there that... the current model for the Grindstone is pretty awesome as it is. New innovation isn't necessarily... um... necessary, at this point, in my opinion. Cool ideas are cool, but the Grindstone doesn't necessarily have to change in some big way.
Just my two gil, of course.
Sadly, something -does- have to change. Two days out of the week doesn't seem like a big deal or anything but I have a baby and trying to force him to go to sleep early on nights he doesn't want to sleep is not conducive to a good mother-baby relationship. I'm always worried the tourney's not going to get off the ground without me.
Not to mention as they are now they're incredibly chaotic and even I see that. Enjoyable, yes, but chaotic. There just has to be more that can be done.
Changes -are- necessary, but in conjunction to them, additions are what I'm looking at and there don't have to be many but there will be a few. Likely I will just combine one or two of the ideas and use them for blood matches and the rest'll be IC things.
So another change that needs to be implemented, someone needs to be designated as a tourney runner that can take up the slack for Sio. I'll be more than happy to run the tourneys those every other weds nights I have off. This way mom and baby can have a quality relationship and, as I'm sure we can all agree a mom that isn't frayed at the ends is a happy mom.
Measuring earshot distance won't be to hard to figure out. Person A stands where we want a ring to be while occasionally saying something like "Can you hear me now?" while person B walks away from A and reports when they no longer see the spam, add a few meters extra distance to account for participants moving around and ta-da you have your ring location. In my experience it earshot isn't too far in this game midpoint
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Sigyn Shieldbreaker - 10-11-2013
(10-11-2013, 06:50 PM)Gharen Wrote:(10-11-2013, 02:25 PM)Siobhain Wrote:(10-11-2013, 01:46 PM)Fen Wrote: I would just put it out there that... the current model for the Grindstone is pretty awesome as it is. New innovation isn't necessarily... um... necessary, at this point, in my opinion. Cool ideas are cool, but the Grindstone doesn't necessarily have to change in some big way.
Just my two gil, of course.
Sadly, something -does- have to change. Two days out of the week doesn't seem like a big deal or anything but I have a baby and trying to force him to go to sleep early on nights he doesn't want to sleep is not conducive to a good mother-baby relationship. I'm always worried the tourney's not going to get off the ground without me.
Not to mention as they are now they're incredibly chaotic and even I see that. Enjoyable, yes, but chaotic. There just has to be more that can be done.
Changes -are- necessary, but in conjunction to them, additions are what I'm looking at and there don't have to be many but there will be a few. Likely I will just combine one or two of the ideas and use them for blood matches and the rest'll be IC things.
So another change that needs to be implemented, someone needs to be designated as a tourney runner that can take up the slack for Sio. I'll be more than happy to run the tourneys those every other weds nights I have off. This way mom and baby can have a quality relationship and, as I'm sure we can all agree a mom that isn't frayed at the ends is a happy mom.
Measuring earshot distance won't be to hard to figure out. Person A stands where we want a ring to be while occasionally saying something like "Can you hear me now?" while person B walks away from A and reports when they no longer see the spam, add a few meters extra distance to account for participants moving around and ta-da you have your ring location. In my experience it earshot isn't too far in this game midpoint
I'll greatly appreciate it. He'll be asleep at 10 or maybe later I just hate to be late to my own event then I feel rushed and panicked and it's harder when people are AFK'ing. Then the tourney lasts like 5 hours. It's lovely, I'm happy, it's just hectic is all.
When we get on, we'll have to find landmarks.
RE: Grindstone New Ideas - Gharen - 10-11-2013
(10-11-2013, 06:50 PM)Gharen Wrote: In my experience it earshot isn't too far in this game midpoint
This is what I get for running with multiple thoughts in my head while multitasking at work.
In my experience earshot isn't too far in this game midpoint on the bridge to one of the posts on the ends seems to be a safe distance where things are not overheard.