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RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Clover - 08-10-2014
Ah, I don't actually know. That many EU players left to another server is what this person told me http://kiiwichan.tumblr.com/post/94244085432/clovermemories-sometimes-im-tempted-to-leave
Perhaps it only happened many months ago?
I was just wondering if other EU players had felt a bit left out sometimes. I don't know how many times I've had to write "I'd love to attend this event, but sadly my timezone is bad", *laughs*.
In any case, having a static group willing to do endgame content, from T5 to Second Coil of Bahamut, would be really awesome for me. I'll try to contact Lynna and ask her about the team they're building. Thank you for letting me know!
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Blue - 08-10-2014
My case is kind of special, because even though I am on Balmung, I don't really do tavern RP, and attend like 1% of the RP events that are scheduled on the calendar.
I RP on a main basis in RP sessions with my linkshell, meaning we schedule specific slots of times and days in the week to meet and RP whatever we want to RP, be it in /l or in /s, we always stick together.
Thankfully enough, even though there's only two EU players in my LS including myself, we're a close enough group, so we care for each other's time restrictions, and our scheduled RP sessions are almost always during hours that meet both NA and EU's ideal hours, not too late for the EU, and not too early for the NA RPers.
For example our standard RP time is in the noon EST, which coincides with 6:00 PM my time.
Unfortunately though, this is something that can be easily arranged only in a small group with few different timezones. A whole server is much more different to make ends meet, as there are timezones from all over the world involved.
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Maril - 08-10-2014
(08-10-2014, 06:20 AM)Clover Wrote: Ah, I don't actually know. That many EU players left to another server is what this person told me http://kiiwichan.tumblr.com/post/94244085432/clovermemories-sometimes-im-tempted-to-leave
Perhaps it only happened many months ago?
I was just wondering if other EU players had felt a bit left out sometimes. I don't know how many times I've had to write "I'd love to attend this event, but sadly my timezone is bad", *laughs*.
In any case, having a static group willing to do endgame content, from T5 to Second Coil of Bahamut, would be really awesome for me. I'll try to contact Lynna and ask her about the team they're building. Thank you for letting me know!
It could also just be a person who never managed to get in contact with any EU fc's and such, I neither advertise for the EU LS or my FC in the general chats anymore because the EU LS fills up with people that come to this site and my FC is big enough (and still receives applications now an again). So I guess being a new player and finding the information, especially if one doesn't use the RPC here, can be a challenge that then causes some people to move away again.
Unfortunately it's a bit of a tough one to fix, even if we were to actively talk about it in shout and such I think we'd miss people still.
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Ilwe'ran - 08-10-2014
Maybe what I'll say will help you a bit, Clover. I'm coming from Odin as both Odin and Moogle were tagged as possible RP and as many 4chan were heading to Moogle and I wanted to avoid the trolls, I picked Odin.
What I can tell you is that there were no.event.at.all. I managed to meet my first other RPer after like.. 1 month ? So I chose to move to Balmung when there were the 3 days free and I have no regrets.
I admit that there really few events EU friendly and maybe people should begin earlier their events (such as balls etc.) to allow to EU to join to the dance as well.
I admit that for end game, we have to move our butt ourselves to make it working as many people are playing NA.
But there are other advantages that NA players don't have such as : Spiritbound, hunts, easy farm on Fleece / Apkallu eggs, etc. As they are sleeping when we are doing those things, it's pretty comfortable.
There are less EU players than NA so we can meet the same people often. Which of course have 2 sides as you can like them or dislike them.
As said Nebbs before me, he began a LS related to RP to help people to keep in touch and have new RP contact. It would be nice if people would try to pick people there when they will run some plots. On my case and I'm sure for Nebbs as well, we'll try to run things EU friendly because YES people in Balmung aren't all NA.
We are also running the Poke in the eye night because.. Because it's not because we are EU that we cannot poke things in the eye after all, we should help each others more as we are less and, I'm sure, some are as hopeless and as sad as you are Clover and there is no reason at all : We are as capable as NA, we just lack of organisation.
Like you, I dislike Tavern RP but while I was trying to get more people on the plots related to Ilwe I found that most of people just want to follow the flow and not imply themselves. As I'm preparing the 3rd chapter I'll make another attempt to get a few people in. I say few as my plots are long (Both chapter 1 and chapter 2 lasted 4 months.. Each.. With RP everyday) and the more you are, the more chances you have to have people who cannot come etc. I'm thinking about how I can make this work atm especialy as there are so many things that happened in 8 months.. But I'll find a way, I'm sure
. (Of course it will be EU friendly hours !)I can't say much more, just keep courage, we'll all find a way to make it work, there are a lot of EU RPer on Balmung, just lack of organisation I might say ♥ !
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - HonZoMon - 08-10-2014
Even in the off-peak times there's always someone to RP with. It mostly sucks because I can't really rp with the regulars here on HRC, since the majority is US. On weekdays anyway. Which means I have to make sure I have time set aside on the weekends or I end up not seeing people for weeks at a time.
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I'm having a great time non the less. Plus I get to meet all the rpers that aren't on during peak hours. So it works out in the end.Â
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Aris - 08-13-2014
I moved to Balmung from Cerberus for roleplaying, but sadly any events are usually around 3am GMT so I've missed them. :( But I do still see roleplaying in certain areas generally all throughout the day, so I think I just need to put myself out there a little more and meet the right people. And maybe stay up a little later on occasion. :P
 If there is space and you'll have me, I'd love an invite to any EU progression/RPing related linkshells. It'd be lovely to make friends in a similar timezone! And if anyone is interested in creating a specific endgame progression one, I'd love to help out. I really want to focus on progression, but haven't tried anything yet.
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Ogriv - 08-14-2014
I'm a new player to the game and have been interested in the idea or RP'ing but really know nothing about it.Â
I'm also in the UK and find that at "prime" times (weekday evenings) it can be a little quiet to find people to socialise with.
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - K'hylia - 08-16-2014
Hey everyone!
I've just moved to Balmung to try and find some RP also. If anyone is willing just to give me a chat in game about linkshells and RP in general for EU folks I'd really appreciate it. Or even RP with me!
K'hylia Fhey is the IG name.
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Nebbs - 08-16-2014
(08-16-2014, 08:56 AM)K Wrote: Hey everyone!
I've just moved to Balmung to try and find some RP also. If anyone is willing just to give me a chat in game about linkshells and RP in general for EU folks I'd really appreciate it. Or even RP with me!
K'hylia Fhey is the IG name.
In answer I made a topic
http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=7995
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Bryn - 08-16-2014
Hey, all.
It's really encouraging to see other Europeans about on Balmung and keen to find RP, but it's also saddening to hear that some are moving away out of frustration. I was previously unaware that this was happening, too.
Because we Europeans are a small proportion of the population of Balmung, I think when linkshells and FCs advertise themselves as both North American and European, it's kind of assumed that the Europeans are a minority of that group and will consequently lose out to the North Americans when it comes to event scheduling. I don't know about other NA/EU FCs, but in my own we try to schedule events that are convenient in both time zones. As it turns out, we've ended up with a membership who are mostly active during EU times anyway, which is nice.
But anyway, there seems to be a general sense here that:
- It's difficult to meet fellow Europeans for RP,
- Events made by and open to Balmung's general community are sometimes exclusionary to Europeans due to being created and hosted by those in non-European timezones,
- There aren't many European RP LS/FC options out there,
- There is perhaps a lack of communication and organisation between European players and RP groups.
The question is; what can we do about that?
In my opinion, I think that if we pull together and put a little effort in, we can really improve the lot of Europeans on our server.
There are of course resources already in place that we can use, such as those listed in Nebb's list. But perhaps there's more we can do.
Do we feel that a European-specific sub forum here on the RPC would help us be visible to each other? Or perhaps even our own Enjin site, if people would prefer that. Should European-inclusive FCs and Linkshells form some sort of co-operative alliance? Perhaps an option to filter the linkshells page by timezone / region would be helpful.
In short, there's loads of options open to us if we want to make Balmung a better home for EU RPers. I'd love to work with you all to make this happen, if the desire and will is there!
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Nebbs - 08-16-2014
(08-16-2014, 01:55 PM)Bryn Wrote: ..snip...
In my opinion, I think that if we pull together and put a little effort in, we can really improve the lot of Europeans on our server.
..snip...
Bryn I agree, especially with this bit above.
There is activity, there is desire, so a little "catalyst" should hopefully go a long way. I'm not talking about major extravaganza style events, more just accommodating the EU dimension with a little effort.
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - K'hylia - 08-17-2014
I'd be real grateful if this sort of thing happened. Being in touch with more EU folks would be great!
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Aduu Avagnar - 08-17-2014
As an EU player, who will potentially have links and ins with Askiers next plot round, I am more than willing to RP with those people that want to get involved with it, but may not match the timezones for the majority of others.
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Clover - 08-18-2014
I'm currently not so worried about RP as I'm about endgame, since as I said, I don't play tavern RP. I've decided I'm mostly going to RP over the forum or privately with my friends; private plots seem the best way to get actual plots running.
I will love to attend any RP event, however. And of course, I'd love to be in contact with other EU players interested in endgame as well!
RE: EU players, how do you cope? - Cato - 08-18-2014
I think one of the main issues that it's easy for European players to slip through the net. I'll be the first to admit that it's a two way street but I've seen both myself and other EU players express interest in a particular project or Linkshell only for there to be no follow up.
Then there's the risk of joining what is advertised as an active Linkshell only for it to turn out to not really be all that active or inclusive at all. All too often once the initial wave of players have completed the content that they wanted to complete then there's a chance they won't be willing to run it again with someone new to the sub-community.
Though if there's any active Linkshells seeking to do raids and dungeons together then I am definitely interested in getting involved.