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RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Desu Nee - 04-28-2015
Kinda late for the bandwagon, but Konami meant a lot to me. Admittedly, not as much as one would hope, I'm a PS2 Era Kid, but from the games of that wonderful box of fun I'm very found, Metal Gear 2 and 3 and Silent Hill 2 were pretty amazing and an experience by itself, albeit I'm not too sad those two franchises are coming to an end. I haven't played P.T but it's a damn shame Konami is cancelling it and kicking Kojima out, but one have to understand that for starters, Kojima wanted Metal Gear 1 to be the last. Then 2. Then 4.
Yes, Konami will milk it for all it's worth, and I honestly find dubious they can really replicate his talent, but I'm hopeful for the possibly new IPs Kojima can bring, or his well deserved retirement. And regarding Silent Hills, damn shame, but it's the reality, and Konami maybe wants to cut the gaming sector and focus on what's safer profits for them. They aren't exactly Activision, or Capcom.
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Cato - 04-28-2015
Unfortunate but not surprising. So many great game franchises have bit the dust in the last decade or so whilst ridiculous amounts of money are thrown at the generic and largely soulless juggernauts instead.
It really sucks that passionate developers are screwed over so badly despite making some pretty impressive titles that are genuinely above and beyond the typical game. Didn't something similar happen to the guy in charge of FFXII?
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Desu Nee - 04-28-2015
(04-28-2015, 10:53 AM)Graeham Ridgefield Wrote: Unfortunate but not surprising. So many great game franchises have bit the dust in the last decade or so whilst ridiculous amounts of money are thrown at the generic and largely soulless juggernauts instead.The fact that FFXII was screwed up, but still pretty great on it's own right and massive makes me daydream about what it could have been. Albeit the timeline it's set leaves a bittersweet taste in my mouth, specially if you played Tactics.
It really sucks that passionate developers are screwed over so badly despite making some pretty impressive titles that are genuinely above and beyond the typical game. Didn't something similar happen to the guy in charge of FFXII?
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Cliodhna Eoghan - 04-28-2015
aw....that's depressing. aside from bouncing around on ddr (which i still do from time to time, thank gods my ps2 and dance pad is still in good condition >u< ) i looooved mystical ninja starring goemon and goemon's great adventure.(both on the 64) those games, i can't say how many hours i wasted on them. so amazing and so fun x3 though i really wasn't able to play more in the ganbare goemon series (save getting translated roms of course.... >.>; ) shame they won't be able to make more of them for the series :c
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Cato - 04-28-2015
(04-28-2015, 10:55 AM)Desu Nee Wrote:(04-28-2015, 10:53 AM)Graeham Ridgefield Wrote: Unfortunate but not surprising. So many great game franchises have bit the dust in the last decade or so whilst ridiculous amounts of money are thrown at the generic and largely soulless juggernauts instead.The fact that FFXII was screwed up, but still pretty great on it's own right and massive makes me daydream about what it could have been. Albeit the timeline it's set leaves a bittersweet taste in my mouth, specially if you played Tactics.
It really sucks that passionate developers are screwed over so badly despite making some pretty impressive titles that are genuinely above and beyond the typical game. Didn't something similar happen to the guy in charge of FFXII?
Yeah. FF Tactics, Vagrant Story and FFXII are among my favourite RPG's. Ivalice is such a fascinating place so it's a shame it hasn't been given justice since. FFXIV has a similar vibe to those games, I think - which is largely why I've stuck around since the relaunch.
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Desu Nee - 04-28-2015
Then I remember they pretty much left Bomberman to die quietly and forgotten. Seriously, fuck Konami.
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RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - OttoVann - 04-28-2015
It's going to be a little humorous to see metal gear themed pachinko machines.
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Harmonixer - 04-28-2015
Some people might find this pretty interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMK-kajdgMA
I find this particular uploader to be much better than a lot of general click-bait news. Take it as you will, but it should help with anyone still having doubts on the subject.
I was very unhappy to hear Silent Hills isn't coming out. It was only a few hours later that I heard some more details and then realized it was going to be a fair amount worse than just that.
It's really unfortunate, I've had some great memories from their games and hope they find a way to survive the fallout.
I've largely distanced myself from the MGS series recently. I'm not as bad a fan as I was, I think Peace Walker was where I felt satisfied with it last. MGS3 was simply a fantastic game and I highly doubt anything will ever reach it's level of perfection for me.
I feel pretty strongly about Castlevania too, but it's latest entries have really left me hollow. Especially that horror show that was Lords of Shadow 2. It was a painful game for me to play, riddled with QTEs and whole segments of useless filler gameplay, it was just a shame.
So yeah, rip Konami.
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Qhora Bajihri - 04-28-2015
I'm not much of a Konami kid, so I'm mostly on the sidelines, but I was a pretty huge DDR fan back in the day, even did a few competitions, too. Not being allowed to play was the worst thing about getting mono.
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Mercer - 04-28-2015
Another update today as Konami removes itself from the NYSE and SEC
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RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Enla - 04-28-2015
Part of me is worried this might just be the prelude to another video game crash, with more and more titles over the years homogenizing and chasing more impossible profits than in years past. Such as when Tomb Raider was deemed a commercial failure in spite of selling more than most companies could ever dream for their products - the reasoning being that in spite of that the cost of making the game demanded a higher profit from it's sales. Konami, a company with such beloved games falling to the wayside like this doesn't bode well in my eyes - though by all accounts this is most likely a case of mismanagement and the company heads being far too conservative and wishing to focus on their home market... Still, I can't help but shake the niggling feeling that this is going to be a trend over the next few years.
Most likely just me being a chicken-shit however and jumping at ghosts that aren't even there however. Wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last.
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Mercer - 04-28-2015
The nature of video games has changes in the last ten years. Video games have been becoming more generic as companies are less willing to try new ideas when video games come at such a high price. DLC was created to further monetize their products over a long period, giving more value to each game.
Sadly the exploitation of gamers who want the same level of entertainment they previously got at the same price point has lead to the starts of a consumer exodus. Europe in particular is having none of these shenanigans anymore as Pre-order and Season Pass sales have fallen considerably since last year. Games that are being released, especially for next gen consoles, are not receiving the critical acclaim or financial success needed to continue to develop for them.
I doubt video games will disappear, they are a beloved part of current culture, but will stay the course. Big AAA games will continue to homogenize while independent games will attempt to try new and exciting ways to capture the market.
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Desu Nee - 04-28-2015
There won't have another crash. 82 happened because there was no control at all at the production of games, and low quality product was pumped up way more than people willing to buy them. Alien game was the straw that broke the channel back, and ruined Western video game market for years to come, paving the way to the NES and SNES.
It won't happen again because it's an industry that pumps millions and receive millions. Yes, most AAA games are these days a grey mass of the maximum number of genres shoved together so it can have mass appeal, but considering that it's a millionary investment, and a game has roughly 2 weeks to pay at least the production costs, as well as the admittedly, sheepy behaviour of most gaming customers. The fact games like Call of Duty, Battlefield, and the like are produced every year roughly, and still sell like hot pie pretty much shows there's won't really be a crash.
Sucessful games these days either go back to the roots of various concepts of games, or do a niche so good it becomes a house name.
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - OttoVann - 04-28-2015
What's wrong with battlefield or COD again? If someone replies to me with "nothing" then I fail to see the problem of them doing well. Tastes in gaming have changed, and what we enjoyed as young people are not what young people today enjoy. I'm not sure if I see the issue, the market can't adhere to people our age (25+) forever since young people are where most game revenue is to be had.
RE: Rest In Peace: Konami Edition. - Mercer - 04-28-2015
(04-28-2015, 05:19 PM)OttoVann Wrote: What's wrong with battlefield or COD again?  If someone replies to me with "nothing" then I fail to see the problem of them doing well.  Tastes in gaming have changed, and what we enjoyed as young people are not what young people today enjoy.  I'm not sure if I see the issue, the market can't adhere to people our age (25+) forever since young people are where most game revenue is to be had.Factually untrue. In the 2014 Usage Date and Demographics made by the ESA, the average age of gamers is 31, with women over 18 making up over twice the gaming population of boys under 18. Most game revenue comes from adults, the majority over thirty. Source
There is nothing inherently wrong with Battlefield and CoD, the recent trend has just shown a decrease in quality for their respective franchises. We're reaching a level of saturation for the 'modern shooter' that hasn't been seen since the saturation the same genre had in the 'WW2' theater.