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RE: Gun blades - Aaron - 05-11-2015

(05-11-2015, 12:22 PM)theincubuslord Wrote: Well, we get that gunblade from the Lightningd event... So there already is a gunblade in-game.
Her gunblades not cannonically accurate. It's just a event prop.

And I also like gunblades, they're wild as hell but if you saw this baby
[Image: Gunblade.jpg]

Would you really resist at least shooting it? XD

Also Edward fr

RE: Gun blades - Aaron - 05-11-2015

Also in AC4 Edward has a pair of gun swords that he uses pretty realistic. After the stab hell pull the trigger and bam.

RE: Gun blades - Warren Castille - 05-11-2015

I know we're discounting science, but wouldn't that design cause damage to your wrists when firing? You've got no real brace for it like you would with an actual pistol.

* Warren Castille doesn't know jack about guns outside of houses full of the dead and also crises involving time.

RE: Gun blades - Melkire - 05-11-2015

(05-11-2015, 04:21 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: I know we're discounting science, but wouldn't that design cause damage to your wrists when firing? You've got no real brace for it like you would with an actual pistol.

* Warren Castille doesn't know jack about guns outside of houses full of the dead and also crises involving time.

Ride the recoil, Nancy.

EDIT:

And before someone asks, no, these were not meant to be accurate at range, they were meant to put a bullet in someone at close range. Served as a surprise that could save your life. Best make it count, because in the words of one immortal pirate,

"You've got one shot, Jaaaaaaack."

RE: Gun blades - Aya - 05-11-2015

I've never cared for gun blades, and never will I think Smile

RE: Gun blades - Aaron - 05-11-2015

(05-11-2015, 04:21 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: I know we're discounting science, but wouldn't that design cause damage to your wrists when firing? You've got no real brace for it like you would with an actual pistol.

* Warren Castille doesn't know jack about guns outside of houses full of the dead and also crises involving time.
Only if it was something stronger than say a badic 9mm. 

The wrist can deal with pistol recoil easy so long as you hold it non stupid. How you think cowboys sharp shot stuff so fast? Lol

RE: Gun blades - Harmonixer - 05-11-2015

As far as I'm concerned, Trickweapons already exist in this game to various degrees. A boatload of existing weapons have transforming segments to them. Of course, their uses are nearly as dramatic as they are in this video. I do however firmly believe it to be 'possible'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z26W0_KPAVs

That being said:

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RE: Gun blades - Aaron - 05-11-2015

BURIAL BLADE FOR LIFE! BLOODBORNE FOR LIFE!

RE: Gun blades - Verad - 05-11-2015

I really don't see the problem with a gun that shoots blades.

RE: Gun blades - Dogberry - 05-11-2015

(05-11-2015, 04:53 PM)Verad Wrote: I really don't see the problem with a gun that shoots blades.

This is my reasoning for rocket propelled chainsaws.

RE: Gun blades - Aaron - 05-11-2015

Verad made me snort lol

RE: Gun blades - Kaniko Niko - 05-11-2015

The thing that truly bothers me about the gunblades is the the sheer ridiculousness of their tacked-on "vibrioweapon" explanation. In both Final Fantasy VIII with Squall and in Parasite Eve II with the shotgun variant, they took the time to actually engineer the gunblade so that the muzzle of the firearm terminated about eight to ten inches before the point of the blade in such a manner that should the tip of the blade be in contact with a target, there wouldn't be an explosive compression of gasses that could stovepipe the barrel. They were literally designed so that yes, you can slash something with the blade AND put a .45 ACP round in it at the same time. Hell. The design itself even seems to permit using it firearm-only with the only disadvantage being the weight of the weapon itself. In Parasite Eve II, the gunblade was actually a shotgun that was used for this very purpose. No doubt it was extremely dangerous to use, but we can all guess the results of burying a 12-gauge shotgun-machete into the side of a fleshy target and to top it off—the backside of the blade had a foregrip that allowed you to actually use it like a classic scattergun.

But no. That's not cool enough.

VIBRIOWEAPON, GAIZ.

Edit: Typos.

RE: Gun blades - Aaron - 05-11-2015

At least lightning had a non vibro gunblade lol

RE: Gun blades - OttoVann - 05-11-2015

(05-11-2015, 12:35 AM)Mercurias Wrote: I think Gunblades are quite possibly the dumbest thing ever. 

"In Final Fantasy VIII all forms of gunblade consist of a sword blade with a gun action built into the hilt, the barrel running inside the length of the blade. They are mostly used like normal swords, but triggering a round sends a shock wave through the blade as the weapon passes through an opponent to boost damage." - From this link on the FF Wiki concerning Gunblades.


Theoretically possible IC, but you're basically making an extremely awkward weapon with a limited number of "shock waves" unless you've got the unlimited ammo cheat on.

Admittedly, there are a number of guns with blades on them which would function as ranged weapons, but if you want to primarily fight at ranged, then you could just have a gun with a bayonet on it.

If you really, truly, and absolutely want a gunblade, then it's possible in lore. I just don't know why you'd want to edgelord like that.

This is mostly wrong and completely ignores applying the principles of firearms to combat, in regards to their efficacy.

A sword, I'm sorry, is just a sword. If youre aether-swinging it around sure its going to slice through stone or whatever else, but gunblades provide an interesting extra - a large bored firearm.

Say what you will about your snowflake aether powers that make you bulletproof, catching a .454 sized round, or something above .500 is going to fucking destroy what it comes into contact with.

It's not about 'vibrations', are you even familiar with how firearms work? People need to stop being deadset on how FF8's very...silly notion of Gunblades dictates their behavior here. The individual roleplayer here dictates that, not that terrible PS1 game. Bullet comes out, destroys what it can until it's out of energy.

People get hung up on pulling the trigger of a gunblade mid slice, well thats how FF8 worked for extra damage on the normal Attack, but if you try to actually RP that you'd likely pull the trigger after you bury that sword into...whatever. Dragon's haunch, something like that. Or you could simply have a limited capacity ranged attack option. Not everyone has infinite naruto throwing knives and chakra magics to sling.

Gunblades, in this sort of Fantasy setting, are crazy fucking overpowered if you line them up alongside most, if not all, hand weapons that are melee in nature. People who think their special suit of inherited armor are going to stop a bullet are plot-armoring too much.

RE: Gun blades - Cailean Lockwood - 05-11-2015

(05-11-2015, 04:10 PM)Aaron Wrote:
(05-11-2015, 12:22 PM)theincubuslord Wrote: Well, we get that gunblade from the Lightningd event... So there already is a gunblade in-game.
Her gunblades not cannonically accurate. It's just a event prop.

I know, it was a weak attempt at making a funny. Tongue
Also, her weapon changes between sword and gun, not being both at the same time, so yeah. I kinda like Yazoo's weapons in FF7: Advent Children which are a pair of handguns with attached blades on them, useful for both ranged and melee fighting.

I find Squall's gunblade to be the weaker form of the gunblades, because as you say, it doesn't actually shoot, it just gives the sword attacks some kind of strength boost. And though that's also cool, I'd rather have it like Devil May Cry 4, Nero's sword which has an accelerator handle, like on a motorcycle. Giving it a few wringes to boost up the sword's power.

With the Machinist and the progressive technology in Eorzea, all these things could become reality though... that is if Squeenix wants it.