Quote:The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.  Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.  We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.  I am committed to this community.  Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

(08-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Xerek Wrote: All I was looking to do was raise a concern and open up discussion.  I hate a last minute shift like this.  It's a pain we don't need.  But I have been talking to people, a significant number of people, that are bailing on Gilgamesh because of Reddit and 4Chan, be it the communities or the threat of potential server lock.

The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.  Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.  We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.  I am committed to this community.  Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

This was all to simply spark discussion on the matter.  Nothing more, nothing less.

(08-05-2013, 08:49 PM)allgivenover Wrote:

Quote:The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.  Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.  We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.  I am committed to this community.  Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

Now you know how the Balmung veterans felt when you all decided you didn't want to play with them.

(08-05-2013, 08:50 PM)Aysun Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Xerek Wrote: All I was looking to do was raise a concern and open up discussion.  I hate a last minute shift like this.  It's a pain we don't need.  But I have been talking to people, a significant number of people, that are bailing on Gilgamesh because of Reddit and 4Chan, be it the communities or the threat of potential server lock.

The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.  Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.  We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.  I am committed to this community.  Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

This was all to simply spark discussion on the matter.  Nothing more, nothing less.

The Balmung RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.  Now I know some people on Gilgamesh see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.

(08-05-2013, 09:37 PM)Kaln Wrote: I'm going to go ahead and say what Aysun didn't, though she alluded to by the quote. Itallicized for emphasis, too.

Balmung players do -not- see this as a good thing. We do not want the Gilgamesh(Or whatever server) community to fail. If people don't want to play on Balmung, if they want to be on another server as a community, us on Balmung, generally speaking, want them to do well. In no way is the 'bleeding of players' a good thing, rather it be from us who're catching the lost ones, or the Gil-community who is losing them. 

I think, all the Balmung players are saying is that all of the issues with the Gil server won't be an issue on Balmung, and that the Balmung players have always, and will always, welcome those from the other servers with open arms. Strength in numbers, as others have said. A community united, is a community strong.. A community split, is not.

This isn't some sort of.. Competition though. Balmung isn't trying to compete with the other servers to get more RPers.. Five or five hundred, we'll be on Balmung regardless.  Now, I'm not attempting to derail the conversation further - Though it may be seen as that. All I'm attempting to do is to stop the idea that Balmung has some sort of dislike towards those not playing on its server. No more perpetuation of that concept.

(08-05-2013, 09:37 PM)Kaln Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 08:50 PM)Aysun Wrote:

(08-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Xerek Wrote: All I was looking to do was raise a concern and open up discussion.  I hate a last minute shift like this.  It's a pain we don't need.  But I have been talking to people, a significant number of people, that are bailing on Gilgamesh because of Reddit and 4Chan, be it the communities or the threat of potential server lock.

The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.  Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.  We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.  I am committed to this community.  Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

This was all to simply spark discussion on the matter.  Nothing more, nothing less.

The Balmung RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.  Now I know some people on Gilgamesh see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.

I'm going to go ahead and say what Aysun didn't, though she alluded to by the quote. Itallicized for emphasis, too.

Balmung players do -not- see this as a good thing. We do not want the Gilgamesh(Or whatever server) community to fail. If people don't want to play on Balmung, if they want to be on another server as a community, us on Balmung, generally speaking, want them to do well. In no way is the 'bleeding of players' a good thing, rather it be from us who're catching the lost ones, or the Gil-community who is losing them. 

I think, all the Balmung players are saying is that all of the issues with the Gil server won't be an issue on Balmung, and that the Balmung players have always, and will always, welcome those from the other servers with open arms. Strength in numbers, as others have said. A community united, is a community strong.. A community split, is not.

This isn't some sort of.. Competition though. Balmung isn't trying to compete with the other servers to get more RPers.. Five or five hundred, we'll be on Balmung regardless.  Now, I'm not attempting to derail the conversation further - Though it may be seen as that. All I'm attempting to do is to stop the idea that Balmung has some sort of dislike towards those not playing on its server. No more perpetuation of that concept.

Edit: Ha. Just noted Aysun's alteration of words. Sly woman, you. My point still stands.

(08-05-2013, 09:49 PM)Xerek Wrote: *sigh*

I think this thread has been successfully derailed.

(08-05-2013, 08:38 PM)Xerek Wrote: All I was looking to do was raise a concern and open up discussion.  I hate a last minute shift like this.  It's a pain we don't need.  But I have been talking to people, a significant number of people, that are bailing on Gilgamesh because of Reddit and 4Chan, be it the communities or the threat of potential server lock.

The Gilgamesh RP community is small as-is, and we're bleeding people here.  Now I know some people on Balmung see this as a good thing because they're catching the people we're losing.  We could be dying out before we even get a chance to begin.  I am committed to this community.  Heck, our guild banner has Gilgamesh himself imposed on it.

This was all to simply spark discussion on the matter.  Nothing more, nothing less.

(08-05-2013, 10:03 PM)Xerek Wrote: All you are doing is rehashing the question of why we chose not to roll on Balmung in the first place.  This is not a thread for debating the existence of the Gilgamesh community, it is a simple discussion about whether we want to pick a different (non-legacy) server to go to.

Why a separate community exists on Gilgamesh is a question that has been discussed and debated to death here.  Balmung is a valid option for anyone that wants to go there.  Always has been.  But the majority of people that decided to go to Gilgamesh did so because they did not want to go to a legacy server.  It stands to reason those people still don't want to be on a legacy server.

This was supposed to be a thread for Gilgamesh players to discuss whether they think staying on Gilgamesh, warts and all is the better choice, or is picking a new server (such as Bahamut).  It has spiraled into anything but, and that is frustrating.