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RE: A sad day - Connor - 08-27-2013
Being fairly new to this, I have to say that the people I've spoken to so far have been nothing but compassionate regarding my inability to log in to Bal or Gilg. They have even taken to deleting alts in the hopes that other people can actually log in and join them. There isn't much else they can do and I don't want them to have a miserable time just because I can't play with them yet.
Since it's still early days, I don't imagine there will be that many people out RPing so I'm not too fussed with what I'm missing. I'll be able to play on Bal eventually. Until then I'm going to keep hanging around these forums until I can start a character on Bal.
I'm just going to play on Faerie and get to know the game more before I start RPing. I might even do something outrageous like use my character on Faerie as a story intro for my actual character on Bal.
"Why X became X ... "
RE: A sad day - Asyria - 08-27-2013
Like I said elsewhere, I've seen this sorta thing before pretty often. In WoW, the "most popular RP server" always ended up being full, with queues of undreds of people.
When this happened, Blizzard would eventually open free transfers to low pop servers. We RPers endured and remained there, waiting for the non-Rpers to leave.
It's always been successful.
Only times RPers migrated was when the overall quality of life on the server went to hell due to... I'm not sure what, actually. But it wasn't about high population.
If you see my words as a "it's not my problem" or "you can't leave" ... well, it's your choice to read it that waybut I'm actually saying is "please endure, trust me it can be done" and "stay, your presence here is desired."
RE: A sad day - Vexusdate - 08-27-2013
I believe what I've said may have been taken in a manner that I was not expecting. By no means am I judging anyone who is having fun on their servers with this community, and encourage you to keep having fun. I wouldn't ask someone to drop their current community or say that you have 0 compassion at all.
And what I said about the compassion remark wasn't a few bad apples spoil the bunch assumption. It was exactly as has been stated 'there is nothing we can do'. And you are 100% correct on that remark, it's up to square. I read through dozens of posts before making that last remark versus just putting it up there.
I have no doubt alot of you feel bad that your fellow community members are split from you, and when gilgamesh and balmung open up, I have no doubt you will reunite with them with open arms. I did however mean what I said there was 0 support for an 3rd rp server. When in swotr, I quit a server who was losing it's population and rolled on another RP server. I left alot of guildmates behind, but we talked/communicated through forums and voip clients until most of them transfered when the transfers were free. The reception I got was, 'Have fun where you are, keep in touch and hopefully we see you again', not 'I'm sorry I can't get you here, just be patient and join later'.
That being said, I believe I will be rolling on Faerie until gil and bal open up, and I am glad you guys are having a wonderful time with this game, and I encourage those who wish to join these high pop server: go make some new friends on a different server, await square's resolution, and just have fun.
I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, and wish you all the best.
Thank you for your time.
RE: A sad day - LiadansWhisper - 08-27-2013
(08-27-2013, 09:36 AM)lady2beetle Wrote: Wow. I'm not going to lie, that really hurt.
The problem here is NOT that we aren't compassionate, it's that there's nothing we can do. And for me, I'm pulling away from a lot of the community at the moment because there's so much negativity going around. I know people are frustrated and disappointed and anxious - I get that. I really do. I've had my own share of bumps though I understand that I've been luckier than most. But for everyone's problems, there's NOTHING I CAN DO but try to stay positive and encourage people to look on the bright side. I'm not one of those people who feeds on negativity so I try to feed on positivity. If that means that I am disregarding other people's problems, then I'm sorry.
I don't think that's what he was saying at all. Â He's not talking to people trying to "look on the bright side." Â He is (correct me if I'm wrong) talking about the people who are telling those locked out that they should just wait, and refusing to consider any alternatives for them.
RE: A sad day - Asyria - 08-27-2013
I think the main issue here is the RPC is a community, and people splitting up all over the place goes against the definition of a community.
It's not wrong... but it's not... community-friendly.
It's already been said the RPC wouldn't support more than 2 servers, there was enough drama about getting a 2nd one already.
Another issue is.. "we're going to play elsewhere" can be, consciously or not, perceived as "you guys aren't worth waiting for your servers to let me in". It's of course not the idea of rolling elsewhere, but like I said, it can be a conscious OR subconscious perception.
All this leads to... what we're seeing on the forums.
And this is all Squeenix's fault! :O
RE: A sad day - Vexusdate - 08-27-2013
You are correct, Whisper.
RE: A sad day - Zhauric - 08-27-2013
(08-27-2013, 11:51 AM)Vexusdate Wrote: I believe what I've said may have been taken in a manner that I was not expecting. By no means am I judging anyone who is having fun on their servers with this community, and encourage you to keep having fun. I wouldn't ask someone to drop their current community or say that you have 0 compassion at all.
And what I said about the compassion remark wasn't a few bad apples spoil the bunch assumption. It was exactly as has been stated 'there is nothing we can do'. And you are 100% correct on that remark, it's up to square. I read through dozens of posts before making that last remark versus just putting it up there.
I have no doubt alot of you feel bad that your fellow community members are split from you, and when gilgamesh and balmung open up, I have no doubt you will reunite with them with open arms. I did however mean what I said there was 0 support for an 3rd rp server. When in swotr, I quit a server who was losing it's population and rolled on another RP server. I left alot of guildmates behind, but we talked/communicated through forums and voip clients until most of them transfered when the transfers were free. The reception I got was, 'Have fun where you are, keep in touch and hopefully we see you again', not 'I'm sorry I can't get you here, just be patient and join later'.
That being said, I believe I will be rolling on Faerie until gil and bal open up, and I am glad you guys are having a wonderful time with this game, and I encourage those who wish to join these high pop server: go make some new friends on a different server, await square's resolution, and just have fun.
I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings, and wish you all the best.
Thank you for your time.
Very well said in both your posts. I found it disconcerting myself reading some of the posts including the stance of the site. It seemed more about promoting the individual communities than about promoting roleplaying which I find stands higher than any server. For me, the server is the hub but the community is all and every single roleplayer no matter where they call home. I enjoy all their stories, their characters and their development. I really could care less what server they lay their head.
But not everyone has been as such and are just as troubled by the split caused by game mechanics. As one of those stuck on the outside I thank those for their support. It isn't easy since I have friends who got on Gilgamesh during p4 that I have known for ten years. Unfortunately, my son got injured during his football scrimmage so I got on late in the weekend after my wife and I played doctor (get your mind out the gutter *laughs*!) and with that lost my opportunity.
It is what it is and I will simply have to find a way to find roleplayers because without them my interest will fade as it is my greatest enjoyment in my online gaming. Best of luck to all out there.
RE: A sad day - Apoc1216 - 08-27-2013
I don't mean to derail the thread but I came across this:
http://gamerescape.com/2013/08/27/thank-you-naoki-yoshida/
I know that a lot of us are frustrated about not being able to log in but if you saw the video this morning of the launch event...I was nearly crying despite not being able to translate it. You can send him thanks so that he and some of the team can read it at PAX. Let's show Yoshi-P that we do care despite all that is going on.
RE: A sad day - Fox - 08-27-2013
I signed it Apoc and sent him a nice letter. Developers work their butts off for games like these. For what time I have played, I have enjoyed and wish their undoubtedly exhausted team well wishes.
RE: A sad day - LandStander - 08-27-2013
(08-27-2013, 03:54 PM)Apoc1216 Wrote: I don't mean to derail the thread but I came across this:Name: Dennthota Ahtahrmwyn
http://gamerescape.com/2013/08/27/thank-you-naoki-yoshida/
I know that a lot of us are frustrated about not being able to log in but if you saw the video this morning of the launch event...I was nearly crying despite not being able to translate it. You can send him thanks so that he and some of the team can read it at PAX. Let's show Yoshi-P that we do care despite all that is going on.
World: Balmung
Message: Suck it, Yoshi-P
Hahaha, I kid. But I wonder how many people will send him stuff like that. The beta forums have always been hostile, and that has seemed to have spilled over onto the normal forums and has doubled because of the inaccessibility to the servers.Â
I just keep pretending that the game isn't really out yet. It's the only way I can stay sane from my days of unable to log in as all my LS mates pull off ahead. The official forums and other community sites are raging on the internet, but despite all that, he did it. He turned a failure of a game into something amazing, so amazing in fact that he exceeded all expectations and broke it lol. No matter if players leave because of the bad launch or whatever. That at least deserves some recognition.
RE: A sad day - Orin - 08-27-2013
On a more positive note. Both my brother and I were able to join balmung. Granted it required a bit of luck and waking up early. And it is worth the wait, so far balmung is quite welcoming. Everyone goes out of their way to explain things to newer players to the game. I'm hoping that they will continue to open up so that other rp players can join in as well. And I'm not gonna lie I do encourage people in game who are Not rp'ers who hold no connection to anyone on balmung to seek out other servers so we can get you guys in with us.
RE: A sad day - Taishan - 08-27-2013
I have characters on both Balmung and Gilgamesh, but with so many "world is full" 1017 messages, I am starting to be very receptive to the idea of another RP server being chosen. At least that way maybe I would be able to play.Â
 
RE: A sad day - Asyria - 08-27-2013
I realized today that the whole issue isn't with the developers, this time.
It's the players who log in and afk for hours, in case they wouldn't be able to log in later. They're the only reason servers are so full amd therefore the only reason people are now looking for other servers to call home.
The only thing the devs can do about it is implement an auto-kick feature, which I hope they do.
RE: A sad day - ForestGuardian - 08-27-2013
I'm really disappointed that I can't get into Balmung, I actually thought that since I had a character created here from the last beta weekend I'd be allowed in, but I guess that's not how it works...Â
Still, my need to be on Balmung outweighs my need to be playing, right now-...Â
I have so many plans for Hyltwakka that I can't really bring myself to get started on anything else, especially on a different server. :\
RE: A sad day - FenixDarkblaze - 08-27-2013
Game launches are always nuts. Just give it a few weeks at most, some people will lose interest, hopefully they place an auto-kick feature for AFK'ers.. It will clear up with time, I think. Even if in the end the only thing left is a queue to get in at all hours, it's better than simply being locked out.