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RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Uther - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 03:57 PM)Vinter Wrote: *Raises hand*
I'm in that boat right now. I was really bummed that I didn't get into the EA because I had only payed for 2 months of subscription back in 1.0, the 27th rolls around and I finally get to play. Or so I thought.
Turns out I'm going to have to sit here looking at my character and refreshing the world information until next week.
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When their way of "enjoying the game" is going AFK and denying others the opportunity to play, I will most certainly hold it against them.
It doesn't really matter if it's the only way to guarantee a slot on a server. They're essentially saying "To hell with everyone that isn't me." and no matter your reasons, that's a shitty thing to do.
No single person can fix this problem on their own. But you can certainly decide whether or not you want to be part of the problem.
Hey, man, that really sucks. I'm sorry to hear that. I've been waiting to make my main but I can always hop on my alt if I get too bored, so at least I have that luxury. You can always try during the low-pop hours, though so far it hasn't really worked for me. Also, last night Sargantas went down for a bit and character creation went back up because no one knew the server had come back up yet. So you can always hope Balmung crashes. Other than that you're pretty much out of luck until next week or until SE implements an auto-kick function.
As for your response to Magellan's post,
I agree with every single word of that, pretty much.
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Magellan - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 03:57 PM)Vinter Wrote: When their way of "enjoying the game" is going AFK and denying others the opportunity to play, I will most certainly hold it against them.
It doesn't really matter if it's the only way to guarantee a slot on a server. They're essentially saying "To hell with everyone that isn't me." and no matter your reasons, that's a shitty thing to do.
No single person can fix this problem on their own. But you can certainly decide whether or not you want to be part of the problem.
I'm not disputing you. Personally, I think you are right, and that it is a selfish action. However, personally, I'm not going to let it get to me. I am here to have fun, and am not going to let the actions of others keep me from that. I am very sorry you haven't been able to get in yet. I too have struggled to get in, though I do have a char on Balmung. I've fallen further and further behind my friends (some of whom may even exploit this), so I symphathise with how much this sucks. Plus, I damaged my laptop last night. Things haven't exactly been going my way.
Am I disappointed and frustrated? Absolutely. So much so that I'm taking a 5 day break to just take a step back from it. But I'm not going to take it out on other people because To do so would spoil my future enjoyment of the game.
I kind of think of it like a busy highway full of bad, discourteous drivers. Many would rail against
these drivers, and with good reason. But I just am generally slow to anger. I support Uther's message and his right to say it, but I personally hold no anger in my heart towards afkers.
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Lienayo - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 03:22 PM)lady2beetle Wrote:(08-28-2013, 03:04 PM)Lienayo Wrote: It only takes me about 10-15 minutes of trying to hop back in after logging out for a while.
That's actually not true. I mean about the 10-15 minutes. I spent an hour last night trying to log in before finally giving up and going to bed. If I had been logged in when I got home, I would have been able to actually play some. Instead, I didn't get any play time at all.
And I do understand that. My partner has had a similar level of difficulty getting in, too, I realized, though for the passed three days, twenty minutes or so was all it took for me to slip in after getting home from work.Â
Then again, maybe I've just been lucky and jinxed myself. PFFT.
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - AkhutaiAngura - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 03:57 PM)Vinter Wrote:(08-28-2013, 01:46 PM)Uther Wrote: But the more I thought about it, the more I began to empathize with newcomers who can't make any character at all on the server. Imagine how you would feel if you hadn't been following the game too closely and never pre-ordered it. It's launch and you can't even make a character until next week because everyone refuses to log out and give you a chance.
*Raises hand*
I'm in that boat right now. I was really bummed that I didn't get into the EA because I had only payed for 2 months of subscription back in 1.0, the 27th rolls around and I finally get to play. Or so I thought.
Turns out I'm going to have to sit here looking at my character and refreshing the world information until next week.
Magellan Wrote:They are expanding server capacity starting next Monday, which, in their words, they hope makes a 'significant' impact. Courtesy towards fellow gamers would be sweet, but I don't begrudge people just trying to enjoy the game.
When their way of "enjoying the game" is going AFK and denying others the opportunity to play, I will most certainly hold it against them.
It doesn't really matter if it's the only way to guarantee a slot on a server. They're essentially saying "To hell with everyone that isn't me." and no matter your reasons, that's a shitty thing to do.
No single person can fix this problem on their own. But you can certainly decide whether or not you want to be part of the problem.
This may or may not help, as I think they've actually locked the creation of new characters on Gil and Bal (Correct me if that's incorrect though.) I've had the best, easiest time being able to log in, in the early hours of the morning. I wake up at about 7 or so AM, CST time and can get in without any problem whatsoever.
If at all possible, you might try that. Go to bed a little earlier, wake up a little earlier than normal and try it in the wee hours of the morning.Â
For some reason though, that's not the same as trying to get in at 1AM CST. Apparently, the late hours of the night are not the same as the wee hours of the morning..Â
Anywho. Back on topic!
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - lady2beetle - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 04:42 PM)Kaln Wrote:(08-28-2013, 03:57 PM)Vinter Wrote:(08-28-2013, 01:46 PM)Uther Wrote: But the more I thought about it, the more I began to empathize with newcomers who can't make any character at all on the server. Imagine how you would feel if you hadn't been following the game too closely and never pre-ordered it. It's launch and you can't even make a character until next week because everyone refuses to log out and give you a chance.
*Raises hand*
I'm in that boat right now. I was really bummed that I didn't get into the EA because I had only payed for 2 months of subscription back in 1.0, the 27th rolls around and I finally get to play. Or so I thought.
Turns out I'm going to have to sit here looking at my character and refreshing the world information until next week.
Magellan Wrote:They are expanding server capacity starting next Monday, which, in their words, they hope makes a 'significant' impact. Courtesy towards fellow gamers would be sweet, but I don't begrudge people just trying to enjoy the game.
When their way of "enjoying the game" is going AFK and denying others the opportunity to play, I will most certainly hold it against them.
It doesn't really matter if it's the only way to guarantee a slot on a server. They're essentially saying "To hell with everyone that isn't me." and no matter your reasons, that's a shitty thing to do.
No single person can fix this problem on their own. But you can certainly decide whether or not you want to be part of the problem.
This may or may not help, as I think they've actually locked the creation of new characters on Gil and Bal (Correct me if that's incorrect though.) I've had the best, easiest time being able to log in, in the early hours of the morning. I wake up at about 7 or so AM, CST time and can get in without any problem whatsoever.
If at all possible, you might try that. Go to bed a little earlier, wake up a little earlier than normal and try it in the wee hours of the morning.Â
For some reason though, that's not the same as trying to get in at 1AM CST. Apparently, the late hours of the night are not the same as the wee hours of the morning..Â
Anywho. Back on topic!
Ironically enough that's exactly what I did last night! I went to bed early, got up at 3 AM, went to log in... and there was an emergency maintainance and the game was down until 5. *facepalm* Oh, well. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow morning.
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Uther - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 04:42 PM)Kaln Wrote: This may or may not help, as I think they've actually locked the creation of new characters on Gil and Bal (Correct me if that's incorrect though.)
Their notifications on which servers are and are not available for character creation are just speculation, I'm pretty sure. I think it's an automatic thing done by a game mechanic itself. The most recent notification says, for instance, that Faerie is closed and Coeurl is open, and that they will send out a notification when it changes. Earlier today, while trying to make my main, the in-game list said Faerie was open and Coeurl was closed, along with some other discrepancies (those were the only two I remembered). So even if the list says it's down, it doesn't hurt to check for yourself. Keep in mind though that Balmung is exceedingly popular and is one of the names that has been on all eight lists.Â
Best bet is to hope for a Sargantas moment. Server crashes and comes back up, no one notices it's back, the low population allows for character creation. Sneak in and make a character before it tells you that you can't. Of course, that's somewhat rare.Â
Another optimistic outlook is that, because Balmung has been on the lock list for so long and it's easier to log in today, maybe they'll open it up for creation soon. Who knows?
Never hurts to have hope.
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - lady2beetle - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 04:51 PM)Uther Wrote:(08-28-2013, 04:42 PM)Kaln Wrote: This may or may not help, as I think they've actually locked the creation of new characters on Gil and Bal (Correct me if that's incorrect though.)
Their notifications on which servers are and are not available for character creation are just speculation, I'm pretty sure. I think it's an automatic thing done by a game mechanic itself. The most recent notification says, for instance, that Faerie is closed and Coeurl is open, and that they will send out a notification when it changes. Earlier today, while trying to make my main, the in-game list said Faerie was open and Coeurl was closed, along with some other discrepancies (those were the only two I remembered). So even if the list says it's down, it doesn't hurt to check for yourself. Keep in mind though that Balmung is exceedingly popular and is one of the names that has been on all eight lists.Â
Best bet is to hope for a Sargantas moment. Server crashes and comes back up, no one notices it's back, the low population allows for character creation. Sneak in and make a character before it tells you that you can't. Of course, that's somewhat rare.Â
Another optimistic outlook is that, because Balmung has been on the lock list for so long and it's easier to log in today, maybe they'll open it up for creation soon. Who knows?
Never hurts to have hope.
Is it easier to log in today? Or is it just easier because they had the maintainance this morning so it automatically kicked the AFKers off and that has left the server temporarily light? I'll let you know when I get home and can or can't log in.
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Lost River - 08-28-2013
As with me, after the emergency maintenance I noticed I was quite capable of logging in at 7 AM EST, had to go something, logged out; came back and logged back in at 12 PM EST... and I didn't get a 1017 error, no, I got a server queue! So them capping creation has slowed the tide of incoming players (good and bad).
As for me being logged in? Sadly, I tend to do that a lot when days off, yesterday I was logged in for nearly fifteen hours... which I've played thirteen of those. I'm seriously no-lifing this game. *laughs* But, I suppose that doesn't fit in the "Log online, go cross-town/to work; eight or so hours later, come back to play." ^_^
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Uther - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 04:54 PM)lady2beetle Wrote: Is it easier to log in today? Or is it just easier because they had the maintainance this morning so it automatically kicked the AFKers off and that has left the server temporarily light? I'll let you know when I get home and can or can't log in.
I've been logging in and out all day with little issue. Worst I've gotten was a queue of 2. Then again, I haven't logged in for a few hours so maybe the peak hours have destroyed that.
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Korin - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 04:57 PM)Uther Wrote:(08-28-2013, 04:54 PM)lady2beetle Wrote: Is it easier to log in today? Or is it just easier because they had the maintainance this morning so it automatically kicked the AFKers off and that has left the server temporarily light? I'll let you know when I get home and can or can't log in.
I've been logging in and out all day with little issue. Worst I've gotten was a queue of 2. Then again, I haven't logged in for a few hours so maybe the peak hours have destroyed that.
I think the worst part is that that you don't even seem to get a queue at this time. Just a message telling you to "wait until an opening is available and try again". Isn't that kind of the point of a queue? I can understand the frustration - they more or less present you with 'keep clicking until you get in' as the only option at this point.Â
It kind of saddens me that most of the potential openings are taken by these AFKers though. I'm still spotting the same people as usual in the same places as usual, so...
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Nimarhie - 08-28-2013
People who afk to not have to deal with the login BS need to have a power outage/surge in the middle of something important. >.>
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - AkhutaiAngura - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 05:17 PM)Nimarhie Wrote: People who afk to not have to deal with the login BS need to have a power outage/surge in the middle of something important. >.>
Funny note on that...
My best friend was doing that - Had left his character logged in while he was at work. He worked a 10 hour shift, and would periodically remote access into his computer at home to check if he was still logged in. He remained in and idle the entire shift.
He gets home, moves to sit down and somehow manages to kick his power cord, yanking it from his tower. Logging off in such a fashion left his character logged in, which mean that when his computer was back on, he couldn't log in. Cause he already was.Â
Karma?
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Uther - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 05:38 PM)Kaln Wrote:(08-28-2013, 05:17 PM)Nimarhie Wrote: People who afk to not have to deal with the login BS need to have a power outage/surge in the middle of something important. >.>
Funny note on that...
My best friend was doing that - Had left his character logged in while he was at work. He worked a 10 hour shift, and would periodically remote access into his computer at home to check if he was still logged in. He remained in and idle the entire shift.
He gets home, moves to sit down and somehow manages to kick his power cord, yanking it from his tower. Logging off in such a fashion left his character logged in, which mean that when his computer was back on, he couldn't log in. Cause he already was.Â
Karma?
That's nothing short of awesome.
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - xaaniko - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 05:44 PM)Uther Wrote:(08-28-2013, 05:38 PM)Kaln Wrote:(08-28-2013, 05:17 PM)Nimarhie Wrote: People who afk to not have to deal with the login BS need to have a power outage/surge in the middle of something important. >.>
Funny note on that...
My best friend was doing that - Had left his character logged in while he was at work. He worked a 10 hour shift, and would periodically remote access into his computer at home to check if he was still logged in. He remained in and idle the entire shift.
He gets home, moves to sit down and somehow manages to kick his power cord, yanking it from his tower. Logging off in such a fashion left his character logged in, which mean that when his computer was back on, he couldn't log in. Cause he already was.Â
Karma?
That's nothing short of awesome.
Oh how I laughed when I read this.
RE: Staying logged in to avoid queues? Don't. - Nimarhie - 08-28-2013
(08-28-2013, 05:38 PM)Kaln Wrote:Oh to be a fly on the wall when he did that... I would fall off the wall from laughing so hard.(08-28-2013, 05:17 PM)Nimarhie Wrote: People who afk to not have to deal with the login BS need to have a power outage/surge in the middle of something important. >.>
Funny note on that...
My best friend was doing that - Had left his character logged in while he was at work. He worked a 10 hour shift, and would periodically remote access into his computer at home to check if he was still logged in. He remained in and idle the entire shift.
He gets home, moves to sit down and somehow manages to kick his power cord, yanking it from his tower. Logging off in such a fashion left his character logged in, which mean that when his computer was back on, he couldn't log in. Cause he already was.Â
Karma?