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RE: The Au Ra and New, Affiliated Plots - Naunet - 01-03-2015
(01-03-2015, 03:04 PM)Kismet Wrote: (ex: an inexperienced RPer who wants to avoid breaking lore like the plague)
Or someone that recognizes an individual's interactions with people are necessarily colored by their cultural and geographical background and that it's impossible to know how someone would react to things Eorzeans do/say without at least some understanding of Au Ra culture and history?
RE: The Au Ra and New, Affiliated Plots - Kismet - 01-03-2015
(01-03-2015, 04:40 PM)Naunet Wrote:(01-03-2015, 03:04 PM)Kismet Wrote: (ex: an inexperienced RPer who wants to avoid breaking lore like the plague)
Or someone that recognizes an individual's interactions with people are necessarily colored by their cultural and geographical background and that it's impossible to know how someone would react to things Eorzeans do/say without at least some understanding of Au Ra culture and history?
The same argument could be applied to Garlean RPers.
That and the behavior/reactions of Yugiri and the Domans don't seem to suggest that Othard is centuries behind or ahead of Eorzea in terms of technology or basic common sense. It was pretty much just "wow, new areas", "wow, foods I haven't had", "wow, Primals", and "wow, birds that are horses!" if we count Oboro's commentary on chocobos. That was all attributed to simply being a Doman foreigner. You don't really need racial infliction to convey any of that.
Does a person need to be aware of a race's stereotypes to RP it? It helps with authenticity when dealing with racial-specific issues and subjects, yes. But if you're actively avoiding those... then what's left to be required to know?
RE: The Au Ra and New, Affiliated Plots - allgivenover - 01-03-2015
(01-03-2015, 05:06 PM)Kismet Wrote: The same argument could be applied to Garlean RPers.
Not really.
You could apply the same argument, but it fits poorly. We've seen plenty of Garleans in the story so far and a lot can be gleaned about what they're like from what we can see. Additionally they're all comprised of the five races and conquered peoples (other than the purebloods of course), which we know a good deal about already.
Other than Yugiri there is literally nothing to go on with the AuRa. Pretty much everything about them is up in the air. You could write a family background, origin story, etc, and then find out that they don't do conventional families, that they spring fully formed as an "adult" from a clutch of eggs and have no idea who their parents are, or that they've all been sealed away (except for Yugiri and whatever family she may or may not have) and an event at the end of 2.0 is going to release them into the world again.
Obviously I'm speculating wildly here but we really have no idea where SE is going with the AuRa. With Garleans we can make reasonable conclusions. More difficult to RP for sure, but still, applying the same arguement doesn't stick very well.
Everything about the AuRa is a shot in the dark at the moment and it's probably not a good idea to get attached to character ideas that may have to be severely altered (or severely scorned in the case of Miqo'te lore) to fit with whatever SE writes.
But hey, this is RP and at the end of the day it's for fun, so have it. I'll be waiting.
RE: The Au Ra and New, Affiliated Plots - Kismet - 01-03-2015
(01-03-2015, 05:38 PM)allgivenover Wrote:(01-03-2015, 05:06 PM)Kismet Wrote: The same argument could be applied to Garlean RPers.
Not really.
You could apply the same argument, but it fits poorly. We've seen plenty of Garleans in the story so far and a lot can be gleaned about what they're like from what we can see. Additionally they're all comprised of the five races and conquered peoples (other than the purebloods of course), which we know a good deal about already.
I had all of that in mind when I said what I did. Garleans are so varied that we don't know what's what when it comes to their day to day interactions/culture other than "conquer, conquer, and more conquering". We only know things from the viewpoint of story NPCs, and even that isn't exactly the most insightful. We have no primer for what their personalities usually consist of (outside of the assholes in the storyline, but they have to be assholes, because they're villains), we have no primer for how they should or should not react to anything exclusively Eorzean (it will/may vary depending on where they came from, if they're half-blooded, if they grew up in the Empire, etc.).
We actually know less about them than we think we do. I'm not saying it's the exact same thing, just a similar premise of knowing too little to make assumptions based on any stereotypes.
Quote:Other than Yugiri there is literally nothing to go on with the AuRa. Pretty much everything about them is up in the air. You could write a family background, origin story, etc, and then find out that they don't do conventional families, that they spring fully formed as an "adult" from a clutch of eggs and have no idea who their parents are, or that they've all been sealed away (except for Yugiri and whatever family she may or may not have) and an event at the end of 2.0 is going to release them into the world again.
That's why I said a person should stay extremely vague. You wouldn't bring up the backstory at all, to anyone. You don't even make one up for your own sake. So when 3.0 rolls around, you could fill in blanks.
I can't say that I know they won't do some sort of "and now, all of a sudden, all other Au Ra magically are born/awaken" bullshit, but nobody knows, of course. But I'd like to have more faith in SE's writing team than to think they'd pull some lowly, contrived nonsense of that sort.
RE: The Au Ra and New, Affiliated Plots - allgivenover - 01-03-2015
My point was that with the Garleans there is something to go on. With the AuRa we have pretty much nothing, so the argument people are making against RPing AuRa before we know well.. anything about them can't really be reasonably applied to Garleans.
Granted, you could pull off RPing AuRa in near total ignorance about them smoothly (and really I sincerely hope there's nothing weird about them at all culturally or we're going to have another Miqo'te situation) and if you're having fun then go for it, but there is reasonable counsel for why it's a bad idea.
RE: The Au Ra and New, Affiliated Plots - Kismet - 01-03-2015
Fair enough, I can agree on that much.Â
