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RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Kamome - 01-17-2015
(01-17-2015, 01:23 AM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Also, you can just, if you don't like or don't want to be constrained by the future lore of the place, just make shit up.
Worked for me so far.
In the past (with FFXIV, at least...) I feel like S-E did a pretty good job with lore continuity, so I like to stay in-line with their world building stuff. Blizzard, on the other hand... I always felt like the only way I could ever possibly RP in WoW was by making up my character as I went. Much more fast-and-loose style, there.
Also, Chris--thanks for the names!
And Sounsyy, you're awesome. You made a typo because you were so quick to be helpful. Thank you so much for helping a noob figure out the (surprisingly intense) geographical details of this game. I hope everything turns out well for you and your project after the laptop theft. Same thing happened to me in 2012... Just saved enough extra money up to replace it this past November of 2014.
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Kamome - 01-17-2015
Also, if anyone out there is interested/new as well/wanting to RP someone Doman/willing to lore-check for us, an RL buddy of mine and I are putting together a simple origin plotline to get started with involving a trafficker/smuggler from Doma and an Ala Mihgan Garlean defector. Otherwise it will just be posted at some point in the Welcome forum once I actually make it to Balmung on Monday. Damn you, Balmung!!
I'm really looking forward to RPing and maybe someday partying up and doing content with all of you! Have an entertaining weekend! This board is great.
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Aduu Avagnar - 01-17-2015
(01-17-2015, 03:32 AM)Rosalind Wrote: Also, if anyone out there is interested/new as well/wanting to RP someone Doman/willing to lore-check for us, an RL buddy of mine and I are putting together a simple origin plotline to get started with involving a trafficker/smuggler from Doma and a Garlean defector. Otherwise it will just be posted at some point in the Welcome forum once I actually make it to Balmung on Monday. Damn you, Balmung!!Hit me up in game, especially if you end up around Thanalan, Nako's not stopped being a Flame yet.
I'm really looking forward to RPing and maybe someday partying up and doing content with all of you! Have an entertaining weekend! This board is great.
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Kellach Woods - 01-19-2015
(01-17-2015, 03:16 AM)Rosalind Wrote: In the past (with FFXIV, at least...) I feel like S-E did a pretty good job with lore continuity, so I like to stay in-line with their world building stuff. Blizzard, on the other hand... I always felt like the only way I could ever possibly RP in WoW was by making up my character as I went. Much more fast-and-loose style, there.
Agreed on the continuity part - The continuity is unreal as to how good it is... IF you're playing an Eorzean native.
The thing is that if you're embracing the idea of emigrating to Eorzea (which is a fairly cool plot hook don't get me wrong, wouldn't have used it on my main if it wasn't!) - most of the lore surrounding the other places is not established publically yet. Which is why I'd be wary of saying I'm from the New World/Non-Doma Othard/Ilsabard etc. and starting to establish stuff.
Thus, the make stuff up and when lore opens up, see if it fits what you want to do.
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Kamome - 01-19-2015
(01-19-2015, 08:23 AM)Kellach Woods Wrote:(01-17-2015, 03:16 AM)Rosalind Wrote: In the past (with FFXIV, at least...) I feel like S-E did a pretty good job with lore continuity, so I like to stay in-line with their world building stuff. Blizzard, on the other hand... I always felt like the only way I could ever possibly RP in WoW was by making up my character as I went. Much more fast-and-loose style, there.
Agreed on the continuity part - The continuity is unreal as to how good it is... IF you're playing an Eorzean native.
Yep, after a few days of writing and mulling things over I decided not completely scrap my original Ul'dahn merchant concept—after writing a backstory for a Doman character I realized that it might be safer to have two primary RP characters in case the Doman has to go through lore retcon therapy at some point.
That said, it has been really fun to find the clues SE has left us in regard to Doma. I can't wait to see what we will learn about Ishgard and Dravania in Heavensward!
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Chris Ganale - 01-19-2015
As you can see if you read Seno's bio (or his wife's, she's actually done more fleshing out in hers), we said screw it and did what we wanted, though for the most part we feel it fits into the lore.
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Kamome - 01-19-2015
(01-19-2015, 05:55 PM)Chris Ganale Wrote: As you can see if you read Seno's bio (or his wife's, she's actually done more fleshing out in hers), we said screw it and did what we wanted, though for the most part we feel it fits into the lore.
I read both profiles and I thought while reading that you two did a great job telling a story while keeping the specifics open to change. That's what I'm trying to do right now, too, with the Doman character I am finishing up for the (hopeful!!) opening of the Balmung gates tonight.Â
I especially like how you and Motoko wove in the Ninja storyline with your character histories. Do you know if there is somewhere online to find the Ninja quest transcripts? I'll check YouTube for the cut scenes, maybe...
I think you two incorporated the kind of general feudal Japanese historical setting that Square used for the Far East in FFXI. I can't wait for Samurai to be in the game!
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Sounsyy - 01-19-2015
(01-19-2015, 09:14 PM)Kamome Wrote: Do you know if there is somewhere online to find the Ninja quest transcripts?
Ninja Quest Transcripts on XIVDB
XIVDB has this for a few of the quests in game. Be sure to click the Dialogue tab and then just go on to the subsequent quest for the next set of dialogue. Um, feel like shouldn't need to be said, but spoiler. ^^ Youtube also works!
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Kamome - 01-19-2015
(01-19-2015, 09:33 PM)Sounsyy Wrote:(01-19-2015, 09:14 PM)Kamome Wrote: Do you know if there is somewhere online to find the Ninja quest transcripts?
Ninja Quest Transcripts on XIVDB
XIVDB has this for a few of the quests in game. Be sure to click the Dialogue tab and then just go on to the subsequent quest for the next set of dialogue. Um, feel like shouldn't need to be said, but spoiler. ^^ Youtube also works!
Whoa, awesome! I've been eating up the quest blurbs on Gamerescape, but this is one step up. Thanks! I'd rather read the quest text than watch the cutscene. Feels... slightly less spoilery. Thank you again!!!Â
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Chris Ganale - 01-19-2015
(01-19-2015, 09:14 PM)Kamome Wrote:We tried very hard to go off what was given to us in game and we spent many days arguing about how events lined up to make things as seamless as possible. We kinda are :\ between ourselves about having actual quest content be something we set our characters as having partaken in but... -Shrugs- It works for us and we enjoy it.(01-19-2015, 05:55 PM)Chris Ganale Wrote: As you can see if you read Seno's bio (or his wife's, she's actually done more fleshing out in hers), we said screw it and did what we wanted, though for the most part we feel it fits into the lore.
I read both profiles and I thought while reading that you two did a great job telling a story while keeping the specifics open to change. That's what I'm trying to do right now, too, with the Doman character I am finishing up for the (hopeful!!) opening of the Balmung gates tonight.Â
I especially like how you and Motoko wove in the Ninja storyline with your character histories. Do you know if there is somewhere online to find the Ninja quest transcripts? I'll check YouTube for the cut scenes, maybe...
I think you two incorporated the kind of general feudal Japanese historical setting that Square used for the Far East in FFXI. I can't wait for Samurai to be in the game!
It helps that we were able to gratuitously lift certain things coughShinmeiryucough from other sources wholesale.
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Kamome - 01-19-2015
(01-19-2015, 09:42 PM)undefined Wrote: We tried very hard to go off what was given to us in game and we spent many days arguing about how events lined up to make things as seamless as possible. We kinda are :\ between ourselves about having actual quest content be something we set our characters as having partaken in but... -Shrugs- It works for us and we enjoy it.
It helps that we were able to gratuitously lift certain things coughShinmeiryucough from other sources wholesale.
Haha, I think it's okay. You two seem pretty aware of the parts you've borrowed and open about it. FF itself is full of wholesale lifting from not only previous entries in the series, but all kinds of history, mythology, etc.
Hope to see you guys around on Balmung!
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Chris Ganale - 01-19-2015
(01-19-2015, 09:56 PM)Kamome Wrote: Haha, I think it's okay. You two seem pretty aware of the parts you've borrowed and open about it. FF itself is full of wholesale lifting from not only previous entries in the series, but all kinds of history, mythology, etc.Indeed, I look forward to interacting with some other Domans.
Hope to see you guys around on Balmung!
Our characters are actively trying to rebuild the Shinmeiryu though, so...
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Kamome - 01-20-2015
One last question for this thread (I hope)...
Is there an approximate in-game date for the rebellion in Doma? Would it have been with the release of Patch 2.4, or some time earlier?
Nitpicky and somewhat silly question, but I am trying to get my timeline for Kamome right in my head.
Thank you guys for everything. I got into Balmung tonight, at long last. ＾＾
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Chris Ganale - 01-20-2015
There's not been an exact date given, but with the amount of time it would take to cross an ocean and with the Domans beginning to arrive in 2.2 with Yugiri, I think we treat it as having taken place near the end of the 2.0 storyline.
RE: Eorzean Emigrants - Kamome - 01-20-2015
(01-20-2015, 08:16 AM)Chris Ganale Wrote: There's not been an exact date given, but with the amount of time it would take to cross an ocean and with the Domans beginning to arrive in 2.2 with Yugiri, I think we treat it as having taken place near the end of the 2.0 storyline.
Excellent. I'm guessing that would be sometime in late 1577, if my sense of the timeline is correct. Thank you for all of your help, Chris. Good luck with yours and Motoko's storyline!