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RE: [split] Garlemald's Presence in Othard and Relation to the Roman Empire - McBeefâ„¢ - 07-07-2015
(07-07-2015, 08:44 PM)Chris Ganale Wrote: That guy in the postmoogle quest? The Garlean deserter that lives in Wineport jungles? That guy is fucked in the head, and you don't get that assed up just from seeing some awful shit. That kind of mind-fuckery, to the point where he acts like his brains are essentially scrambled eggs, comes from actual mind-fuckery.
As a war veteran, and friend to many who went through far worse than I did, you have no idea what you're talking about.
At all.
Edit: Just to be clear, I don't mean that as an insult. War can fundamentally break people's minds, to the point of showing the same symptoms as physical trauma. If you've never known anyone who has had to go through it though, you wouldn't know. (People are quick to thank veterans, but less quick to remember them after they do so, or fund the care they need)
RE: [split] Garlemald's Presence in Othard and Relation to the Roman Empire - LiadansWhisper - 07-07-2015
(07-07-2015, 08:20 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote:(07-07-2015, 07:55 PM)Melkire Wrote:(07-07-2015, 07:41 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: It's in the 1.0 quest. Â If we're lucky, Sounsyy can swoop in with a link, but there is information from those quests about how conscripted recruits were brainwashed and forced to kill a person every day to numb them to the horror of killing.
If I recall, this procedure was specific to the legion of Nael Van Darnus, as opposed to every other legion of the Empire. Was similar to decimation, if I recall correctly. Someone else will have to source that for you.
^This. ONLY Nael Van Darnus had such a rule. I remember Gaius being rather friendly in 1.0. He wanted Eorzea to join willingly. Nael decided if Garlemald couldn't have Eorzea, he'd drop a fucking moon on it instead.
Yeah I thought I'd mentioned that earlier. Â That it may have been specific to JUST his legion, but I wasn't entirely sure.
On the other hand, apparently Gaius got on the crazy train right after, but that could just be poor writing. Â After the WHM questline, I'm willing to allow for that.
RE: [split] Garlemald's Presence in Othard and Relation to the Roman Empire - Unnamed Mercenary - 07-07-2015
(07-07-2015, 09:00 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(07-07-2015, 08:20 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote:(07-07-2015, 07:55 PM)Melkire Wrote:(07-07-2015, 07:41 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: It's in the 1.0 quest. Â If we're lucky, Sounsyy can swoop in with a link, but there is information from those quests about how conscripted recruits were brainwashed and forced to kill a person every day to numb them to the horror of killing.
If I recall, this procedure was specific to the legion of Nael Van Darnus, as opposed to every other legion of the Empire. Was similar to decimation, if I recall correctly. Someone else will have to source that for you.
^This. ONLY Nael Van Darnus had such a rule. I remember Gaius being rather friendly in 1.0. He wanted Eorzea to join willingly. Nael decided if Garlemald couldn't have Eorzea, he'd drop a fucking moon on it instead.
Yeah I thought I'd mentioned that earlier. Â That it may have been specific to JUST his legion, but I wasn't entirely sure.
On the other hand, apparently Gaius got on the crazy train right after, but that could just be poor writing. Â After the WHM questline, I'm willing to allow for that.
Gaius fell to Ascian temptation. He was pretty reasonable until Ultima Weapon. ...so bad 2.0 writing got him killed.
RE: [split] Garlemald's Presence in Othard and Relation to the Roman Empire - Tiergan - 07-15-2015
I missed a buttload of conversation while traveling. i haven't managed to read the entirety of this thread yet as I'm not feeling too hot, but I guess what I was trying to solve in all of my lore-digging was WHY the Xaela would suddenly be leaving enmasse now if they were already controlled by the Garleans for some time now.
I thought perhaps my two Au Ra left after hearing of the Doman escape to Eorzea, but if everything's pretty much business as usual in Othard except for the fact that there's Garlean soldiers wandering around -- I couldn't really figure out why my Au Ra would ever leave.
One of them is a poop merchant so I could just say he deicded to expand the poop-selling business into Eorzea, but the other is just some young scrappy kid from the Olkund Tribe who probably wouldn't have left his tribe unless there were some pretty tough circumstances going on.
RE: [split] Garlemald's Presence in Othard and Relation to the Roman Empire - TheLastCandle - 07-15-2015
The lore really does seem to imply that, aside from Doma itself, it really is kind of "business as usual" in Othard. Like Tiergan, finding a reason for my Xaela alt to leave his ancestral lands is something I've struggled with greatly. He's of the Iriq tribe, being the son of a Borlaaq warrioress who, according to clan traditions, left him to be taken in by the Iriq. I thought of working in a sort of side-story in which he's searching for his mother, but on second thought I decided that in a clan culture where this sort of thing is common practice, there would probably be little reason for him to do so.
Ultimately, I have yet to RP this character openly, so I may change him to one of the clans more likely to travel to Eorzea. Like the Kha or the decimated Hotgo.
RE: [split] Garlemald's Presence in Othard and Relation to the Roman Empire - Cato - 07-16-2015
(07-07-2015, 09:28 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote:(07-07-2015, 09:00 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(07-07-2015, 08:20 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote:(07-07-2015, 07:55 PM)Melkire Wrote:(07-07-2015, 07:41 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: It's in the 1.0 quest. Â If we're lucky, Sounsyy can swoop in with a link, but there is information from those quests about how conscripted recruits were brainwashed and forced to kill a person every day to numb them to the horror of killing.
If I recall, this procedure was specific to the legion of Nael Van Darnus, as opposed to every other legion of the Empire. Was similar to decimation, if I recall correctly. Someone else will have to source that for you.
^This. ONLY Nael Van Darnus had such a rule. I remember Gaius being rather friendly in 1.0. He wanted Eorzea to join willingly. Nael decided if Garlemald couldn't have Eorzea, he'd drop a fucking moon on it instead.
Yeah I thought I'd mentioned that earlier. Â That it may have been specific to JUST his legion, but I wasn't entirely sure.
On the other hand, apparently Gaius got on the crazy train right after, but that could just be poor writing. Â After the WHM questline, I'm willing to allow for that.
Gaius fell to Ascian temptation. He was pretty reasonable until Ultima Weapon. ...so bad 2.0 writing got him killed.
RE: [split] Garlemald's Presence in Othard and Relation to the Roman Empire - Kage - 07-16-2015
Perhaps the Xaela that have moved just finally had enough? Doma's razing led them to finally take initiative?
Or perhaps they finally got the funds to leave. Or they heard of the success the Domans have had at the Toll?
From what I can tell of the DRK questline, the job quest giver for 50-60 is a Xaela who had moved from Othard when it was first conquered by Garlemald. I think there was some circumstances once they arrived but it's not like no one left when their home was first taken.
Perhaps some xaela have just taken their sweet time in leaving.