(11-07-2014, 10:20 AM)Niklas Gran Wrote: As of this post, I will only be a minor for around 2-3 months, so I have a question: Does a kiss count as sexually-charged? I personally think it should be ok if a character kisses another, be it on a cheek or on the lips. To me that does not count as a sexual offenses or porn.

(11-07-2014, 01:24 PM)Tiergan Wrote: No one can tell me that the dude trying to hit on my friend's young miqo'te teen or my 15 year old lalafell is trying to RP a child-adult romance for the horror and narrative of it. Or that teenaged characters trying to get into Tiergan's pantaloons are doing it as a horrible thing played for drama and conflict. They're usually thinking that they can initiate it the same way as they would any other RP romance and move it along like any other RP relationship.

I know we let a lot of things slide as RPers for story-purposes, but normalizing an adult-child romantic relationship and its fertilization is creepy, enabling of really dangerous behavior, and should just not be one of those things we just let happen, guys.

Call it inciting a witchhunt if you will. At the very least, I shouldn't have to put a "No ERP" tag on my 15 year old character just to avoid it.

(11-06-2014, 05:21 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote: Just wanted to say that you really can't expect people to not pursue your character romantically or sexually just because he or she is a Lalafell, especially considering how ridiculously randy Lalafell NPCs are in-game.

(11-07-2014, 09:16 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote:

(11-06-2014, 05:21 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote: Just wanted to say that you really can't expect people to not pursue your character romantically or sexually just because he or she is a Lalafell, especially considering how ridiculously randy Lalafell NPCs are in-game.

You'd think Lalas were rabbits considering how bad they can get.

Fishing is the lewdest profession, and they involve lalas all the way through.

Anyone who's seen my chronicled journey throughout the wonders of leveling up to 50 FSH knows fully well just how bad it gets. Most of it is centered around Lalas being randy as fuck.

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Personal disclaimer, I know where Z's coming from with the whole ERPin' in times where it would land peeps in trouble. Or postin' some saucy fanfiction.

That being said, I know a friend who'll ask for the IRL age of the person that they're about to engage in EPIC ROLE PLAY (that's what ERP stands for, right?) They refuse to disclose/are underage? Automatic fade to black. Personally, I might have done stupid shit before but I admire her for that stand and am definitely on board with doing it myself.

Did the person what was about doing the nasty while underage do it before? Most likely. However, whether or not they did before has no standing on what you think about this issue, and if you accept/refuse to do so it is entirely your choice. Emphasis entirely because I feel it's necessary to state that your comfort > their ERPin'.

(11-07-2014, 09:56 PM)crowmeleon Wrote: Other weighty subjects have been brought up (Torture, murder, rape) and I think those things fall under content you should first discuss with rp partners beforehand- So sexual or even just romantic interactions involving underage characters should be handled the same way. ASK beforehand. If someone is going to reject or judge you when you ask honestly, they would have done the same when you brought it up IC. 

No matter how you feel about the matter, knowing many people take offense at the subject and bluntly throwing it upon every underage character regardless is rude and inconsiderate.

(11-07-2014, 09:56 PM)crowmeleon Wrote: I will repeat however that even if someone lies about their age, you are still legally culpable for whatever transpires between you. Same goes for if you sleep with someone telling you they're of age but are not. 

Secondly, I didn't really expect so many cases of actual minors involved in ERP... But I would warn that even if you do not participate but are made aware of the 'abuse' occurring, you are now legally implicated in the crime taking place in many places (In the same way a teacher who doesn't speak up when they find out a child is being abused is legally obligated to speak up). Now obviously reporting your friends to the authorities isn't practical, as I doubt anyone would do it- But if this kind of situation comes to light I do think you are obligated to let all parties involved know that what they are engaging in is illegal, and the risks that poses to EVERYONE involved, yourself included. 

At the end of the day though it's true, the people who do this will likely do it regardless of the objections of the community. Which is sad, to think that underage characters would have to specify 'no erp' as if anything otherwise is automatically fair game if you don't state it beforehand. So I think the only thing that can be done is to encourage people to forego etiquette and straight up tell these people to 'fuck off'- At ANY point in the rp, and to just retcon/blist that person. And to look out for minors in our community and make sure they are aware of the laws regarding ERP, as well as any adults who may be approaching them in that manner. 

My personal feelings aside I can't force anyone to do anything. 

So really all I can do is implore anyone participating in this roleplay act with utmost prudence in those they approach with the subject matter. Legal or no, it is a subject many people are extremely uncomfortable with, whether they are personally involved or just witness it from afar. Other weighty subjects have been brought up (Torture, murder, rape) and I think those things fall under content you should first discuss with rp partners beforehand- So sexual or even just romantic interactions involving underage characters should be handled the same way. ASK beforehand. If someone is going to reject or judge you when you ask honestly, they would have done the same when you brought it up IC. 

No matter how you feel about the matter, knowing many people take offense at the subject and bluntly throwing it upon every underage character regardless is rude and inconsiderate.

(11-07-2014, 10:45 AM)Gaspard Wrote: and if you try to brush it off with 'It's RP so everything goes' you clearly do not understand the social dynamic behind roleplay and the inevitable link between player and character.

(11-07-2014, 11:08 PM)allgivenover Wrote:

(11-07-2014, 10:45 AM)Gaspard Wrote: and if you try to brush it off with 'It's RP so everything goes' you clearly do not understand the social dynamic behind roleplay and the inevitable link between player and character.

I think the primary difference between myself and those here who think there are things about RP that should be off limits - the topic at hand - is that I view RP as a writing exercise, because being a writer was my first and lasting dream even though I'm a software developer now.

I look at my RP as a shared narrative that I'm crafting with other people, and the simple truth of the matter is that most other RPers are far, far closer to their RP characters personally than I am to my own. So much so that when faced with something like this they simply cannot see it as anything but the other individual indulging a personal desire and rightfully feel revulsion and react with rejection. It's perfectly reasonable to expect that most would be this way and it's kind of silly how often I forget it.

Honestly it was a little too much effort on my part even posting about it. It's not even anything that happens with Rakka'li, in fact the vast majority of the people he's been involved with have been older than him - in one case ten years older!