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Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - FreelanceWizard - 02-13-2015

All threads that advertise the sale of art for gil are forbidden due to a policy statement by a lead GM. You can view the details here.

This is important enough that I'm making a new thread in Headlines to call everyone's attention to it. Feel free to discuss on this thread (and to express shock and dismay -- I'm quite shocked and dismayed myself Sad ).


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Kellach Woods - 02-13-2015

I'm KIND of surprised they'd interpret that stance as such but it does add up. Kinda sucks because I know I might complain about how poor I am in game but it doesn't match my poverty status IRL.

I don't have a challenge log IRL to give me that kind of pocket change.


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Edda - 02-13-2015

Could always come up with an RPer exclusive codeword that means: "Send me a PM for gil prices" buuuuut then again I am a nasty rebel that actively enjoys killing bots despite all of SE's warnings. Angel


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Faye - 02-13-2015

It's always been against the ToS. I guess they just started taking it more seriously. =/ All the casino stuff in Mor Dhona and in-game raffles are considered "RMT," as well, just as a heads up.


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Zoetrooper - 02-13-2015

It honestly doesn't surprise me all that much. SE has some pretty strict policies as is. When the weddings went live people were trying to sell the platinum bands for gil. While it was technically an in game item for in game items it was also considered RMT, and was frowned up by SE.

In a way I can see art being in the same vein. Kinda sad, because I wanted to make some gil with my art. Guess I'll have to do it the good ol' fashioned way!


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Atoli - 02-13-2015

That's so weird... but then again, SE has already made a name for itself as being incredibly unorthodox with its online games... :( Jeeze. It's not like they're losing profit or like trading for art is shiesty.


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Antain - 02-13-2015

They're really splitting hairs with this one. However, whenever I try to defend "selling" art for gil, the only thing I can come up with that makes an iota of sense is "If it's a craft, is trading in-game money for in-game items that someone spent time farming considered along the same line?" What artists offer is spending time to create something for an in-game purpose based on what the person buying it wants. I know this is a thin line, but it boils down to the same thing. Some of us can't do the traditional means of earning gil, but can produce it through another means and craft.

I don't know, just an opinion. The gil options have been removed from my art thread in any case.


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Aya - 02-13-2015

Wow.  That's all I can say.  Wow.  This is absolutely horrible, and stupid.  Its honestly not often that I use such adjectives to describe policy decisions, but... I really can't think of any good reason for this.  Its ridiculousness on stilts. 

I respect the Official RPC stance on the matter... I wish it were otherwise, but I can understand not wanting to flaunt what has been labelled as official rule breaking.

Are they going to come after me for accepting RP tips now too?

Shall we start a barter market for art? That's not gil!


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Cliodhna Eoghan - 02-13-2015

buummmer, i was really wanting to order more couple art and i'd much rather use gil than cash. >n<
then again....there's nothing against trading skills is there?
perhaps i can convince some people to draw my stuff if i draw for them o3o


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Jaliqai - 02-13-2015

Really don't know what SE stands to gain or prove by this sudden "clarification" of policy. And if it was really that big of a deal to them, why it took this long for it to be made into an issue.

My mind = blown.


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Edda - 02-13-2015

(02-13-2015, 01:45 AM)Aya Wrote: Shall we start a barter market for art?  That's not gil!
Holy shit that is an excellent idea.

Headshot: .5 Riviera Canopy Beds
Bust: 1 Riviera Canopy Beds
Full Body: 1.75 Riviera Canopy Beds

Color Options: 10-20 HQ Sachertortes depending on MB fluctuations

etc etc etc

SE will never know!


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Edgar - 02-13-2015

Fuck the police.


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Zaheela - 02-13-2015

From a legal point of view, I can see why they would need to do this, to address this, and why it could possibly be a legal loophole if they did something like sue a RMT company of sort.

But it still sucks.


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Aduu Avagnar - 02-13-2015

The issue looking at the in game crafting over the art, is that you are spending time in the game, making stuff in the game, traded for gil in the game. That is all an integral part of the in game gil market as it stands. Creating art is not.

and it was probably clarified if someone asked for art for gil on the official forums.


RE: Policy change: Sales of art for gil forbidden - Hyakki - 02-13-2015

(02-13-2015, 01:49 AM)Edda Wrote:
(02-13-2015, 01:45 AM)Aya Wrote: Shall we start a barter market for art?  That's not gil!
Holy shit that is an excellent idea.

Headshot: .5 Riviera Canopy Beds
Bust: 1 Riviera Canopy Beds
Full Body: 1.75 Riviera Canopy Beds

Color Options: 10-20 HQ Sachertortes depending on MB fluctuations

etc etc etc

SE will never know!

Art for "Allagan currency" it has a static conversion and counts as an item, not currency.