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RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - Virella - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 01:12 PM)War Siren Wrote:Because that is getting a bit too much into taking liberties with lore, and making things up, instead of well, adjusting to the lore given. Live and let live; I am not going to berate people for it if they want to make up their own headcanons and roleplay as such, however I prefer sticking to lore as closely as possible, and I would ask people to reconsider to play with what we have, because, hell, a roleplayer should adjust his/her character to the lore, and not dance around the lore to adjust it to his/her character.(08-04-2015, 01:07 PM)Virella Douront Wrote: Sarnai: fear we got to agree to disagree then! I'm really a firm believer that the quests are rooted into Ishgard for a reason; and with it being pointed out that the first DRK was found in Ishgard, and taking the knowledge that even AST did not manage to spread to Limsa, I cannot imagine DRK knowledge has spread outside Ishgard/Coerthas. It may be starting to spread now. But going "Hehoooo I'm a DRK from Othard." is stretching the limits a bit too far me personally.Right but whose to say a DRK wasn't in Othard (sp) for X reasons (They do travel.)and fell and his Soul Crystal was discovered by an Au Ra, and that Au Ra However what you did with War, I think that is a perfect example of having an "outsider" taking it up the DRK mantle believable without making lore up into someone's favour! RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 01:20 PM)Oswin Wrote:Yuss I agree with this part! We should all really make an OOC DRK resource Link shell to help each other develop stories etc.(08-04-2015, 01:11 PM)Sarnai Kha Wrote: Like I said, its only a head cannon to support all the DRK's from Orthard and to be honest, people are still going to RP what they want to so its better to just accept that the head cannons existence is okay rather than causing a rift in the community. Live and let live I say. RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 01:25 PM)Virella Douront Wrote:I too usually try to adhere to lore as much as possible, but if someone makes a well thought out stretch of lore that is at least plausible I'll usually let it pass, if not just for the fun stories it could present.(08-04-2015, 01:12 PM)War Siren Wrote:Because that is getting a bit too much into taking liberties with lore, and making things up, instead of well, adjusting to the lore given. Live and let live; I am not going to berate people for it if they want to make up their own headcanons and roleplay as such, however I prefer sticking to lore as closely as possible, and I would ask people to reconsider to play with what we have, because, hell, a roleplayer should adjust his/her character to the lore, and not dance around the lore to adjust it to his/her character.(08-04-2015, 01:07 PM)Virella Douront Wrote: Snip snipSnip snipity snip snip RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - Fox - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 01:32 PM)War Siren Wrote: I too usually try to adhere to lore as much as possible, but if someone makes a well thought out stretch of lore that is at least plausible I'll usually let it pass, if not just for the fun stories it could present. As do I. I'm lore-plausible personally, but I think a lot of that comes from the fact that my first MMO RP (not rp period as that's from 1998) stems from Star Wars and there's so much EU and head canons that go on. RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - Sylentmana - 08-04-2015 I've seen far too many DRK players RPing as Guts wannabes. A person RPing as a voidsent warrior would be a nice change of pace, to be honest. RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - Mercer - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 02:47 PM)Sylentmana Wrote: I've seen far too many DRK players RPing as Guts wannabes. A person RPing as a voidsent warrior would be a nice change of pace, to be honest. Perhaps for a chaotic evil character. Voidsent are devoted consuming the Aether of Hydaelyn and the world after all. They are other worldly, maddening creatures that exist to destroy the world. RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - Fox - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 02:54 PM)Oswin Wrote:(08-04-2015, 02:47 PM)Sylentmana Wrote: I've seen far too many DRK players RPing as Guts wannabes. A person RPing as a voidsent warrior would be a nice change of pace, to be honest. This is the only time I can really approve of anything like that. But something to keep in mind with this; coming from someone who -has- rped evil aligned characters... So many people tend to get very upset when "No one rps with me because I play evil chars" or "No one likes my character". Be prepared for repercussions. And unless your character has the charisma and ability to manipulate people very well; not everyone will want to play with a character like that. It's why I tend to suggest against playing voidsent in general, (and personally stick to DRK lore because I enjoy it so much) unless a person is fully prepared for what may come of it. RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - Sin - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 09:30 AM)Aaron Wrote: How do you start off such a development to a DRK when your character doesn't even know they have the capacity to be a DRK and won't realize it on their own. Do I have to go the cliche get into a fight and suddenly get so emotional boom DRK powers route? Or can I do a more subtle route like someone else picking up on his capabilities or something? This is a good question, Aaron. I'll tell you how me and Draco handled this. We asked a third party to come up with a short little event-- some sort of emergency. Casually, both knights were in the observatorium when this emergency occurred, and both rushed out gallantly to aid this caravan in distress. The attack on the caravan was more than it seemed, and Draco was forced to use his great power to ensure victory. At that point my character went googly eyes, and much later on, after they'd saved the victims of the skirmish, he'd complain to Draco about his lack of any power to make a difference and ask Draco for tutelage. (08-04-2015, 10:33 AM)War Siren Wrote: Another thing I would recommend people to is really pay attention to the level 58 Class quest. There was a thread where we were posting all the cool spoilery stuff from the MSQ, and side quests, and I remember specifically shaking my head vehemently at someone who seemed to just dismiss that quest as sillyness. Heck no. That was probably the most informative quest as far as how DRK's are supposed to work. Not to mention the character development of the questgivers. I like that quest. (08-04-2015, 11:29 AM)Oswin Wrote: This right here is a very important distinction on the origin of the Dark Knight's powers. The dark powers can be brought out through anger, hate, sadness, suffering but they are not essential. Other emotions can be used as fuel as well, the point is to bridge that gap from the Ego to the Id. Hey, my man. You keep using the word Void here, but... unless that's the flavor you're going for which is totally fine, the Void's got little to do with DRK's. It's the Darkside you're referring to. RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 03:18 PM)Sin Wrote:I agree that quest is really important to the class, it's sad people dismissed it because of the Moogles.(08-04-2015, 09:30 AM)Aaron Wrote: snipity do dah Abyss is the wording they use in the quest chains. Could be what he meant. RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - Melkire - 08-04-2015 [Admin Hardhat] Slapped a spoiler tag on the thread title, since people are getting into the DRK job quests and that content is still somewhat fresh. Staff should probably get around to discussing when we can stop spoiler-tagging things. Yarr. And now, back to your regularly scheduled entertaining discussion. [/Admin Hardhat] RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - Mercer - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 03:18 PM)Sin Wrote:(08-04-2015, 09:30 AM)Aaron Wrote: How do you start off such a development to a DRK when your character doesn't even know they have the capacity to be a DRK and won't realize it on their own. Do I have to go the cliche get into a fight and suddenly get so emotional boom DRK powers route? Or can I do a more subtle route like someone else picking up on his capabilities or something? Right, sorry. Easy to get the powersource confused on DRK, they call it the Abyss instead and is completely different. RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - Cato - 08-04-2015 (08-04-2015, 02:54 PM)Oswin Wrote:(08-04-2015, 02:47 PM)Sylentmana Wrote: I've seen far too many DRK players RPing as Guts wannabes. A person RPing as a voidsent warrior would be a nice change of pace, to be honest. Yeah. A lot of people seem to forget that - and voidsent are, realistically, a threat to be put down. They're better left to something played temporarily as part of an event and then ultimately banished or slain. There's only so many times an outright villain can become a thorn in someone's side and then conveniently escape without it becoming stale. It's why I always cringe whenever I see someone role-playing their character as a succubus...in broad daylight, no less. Can it be done well? Sure! But usually it's less about being a fearsome voidsent and more about catering to ERP from what I've seen. RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - Sylentmana - 08-05-2015 (08-04-2015, 07:47 PM)Graeham Wrote:(08-04-2015, 02:54 PM)Oswin Wrote:(08-04-2015, 02:47 PM)Sylentmana Wrote: I've seen far too many DRK players RPing as Guts wannabes. A person RPing as a voidsent warrior would be a nice change of pace, to be honest. I was talking more about a character that attained their power through a pact with a voidsent ala D&D warlock. Not so much an actual voidsent. I wouldn't play either one, to be honest as I don't really like tank classes and I'm far too attached to my mage. RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - Tumensuns - 08-06-2015 I hope those voidsent knights aren't openly stating their knights of the void because catastrophic events were caused by overuse of black magic that pulled from the void, even if the common folk don't know much about that anymore since years have passed, anyone with an inkling of history education or magical education would know, and most likely wouldn't sit idly. RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - Gegenji - 08-06-2015 (08-06-2015, 09:56 AM)Tumensuns Wrote: I hope those voidsent knights aren't openly stating their knights of the void because catastrophic events were caused by overuse of black magic that pulled from the void, even if the common folk don't know much about that anymore since years have passed, anyone with an inkling of history education or magical education would know, and most likely wouldn't sit idly. It's not even that. Void = Voidsent = Bad is a general knowledge chain for even most folks. Even normal soldiers are understandably upset if someone brings a Voidsent into a fight. |