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Your opinions on certain theories - Morningstar1337 - 07-04-2016 No, this is not related to my character, I finally got THAT weight off my chest an if I do a Group RP, then she is unlikely to be in such a position for that to happen anyway. This is just something I'm curious about. Do you put any stock in the theories about the WoL being either a Primal/Tempered by Hydaelyn or anything similarly implausible in canon but liable to turn a messianic character into a dangerous one that must be stopped? Do you consider such theories a potential flaw or no? RE: Your opinions on certain theories - Kilieit - 07-04-2016 I don't know how I think of the "tempered by Hydaelyn" thing because on the one hand: I think it's likely... But on the other hand: Balmung SL Aghurlal has (somewhat unknowingly - he's only had the meteor dream) disregarded the will of Hydaelyn, despite having the Echo. Which wouldn't work if the Echo was evidence of him having been tempered in Her name. So... obviously not. xD And if the theory that the Warriors of Darkness are Carteneau's Warriors of Light holds any water, then She obviously hasn't exerted Her will directly over them, either. Unless the Ascians have somehow developed a method to reverse the tempering process. I guess the way we write it in our WoL AU is that Hydaelyn could exert Her will over our characters if She wished, but it's simply not Her way. She styles Herself as a mother, and She likely knows enough about motherhood from millennia of watching it take place upon Her surface to know that a good mother does not directly control Her children. As for WoL as a primal... I mean, I have a few tin foil hat theories that the WoL has summoned Primals onto themself. TL;DR: Yes and no. Depends on the intentions of the writers as to the tone of the story. But it's definitely interesting to think about. Today on kilieit doesn't know how to write anything without writing an essay. xD;; RE: Your opinions on certain theories - LiadansWhisper - 07-04-2016 Mmmm. While I think it's possible that Hydaelyn could "temper" someone if she so desired, I don't think it's likely that the WoL is tempered. RE: Your opinions on certain theories - Nero - 07-04-2016 I don't lend much credence, but I don't have the "WoL is tempered" theory completely thrown out the window just yet. Tempering has been shown to be pretty universal: it induces slave-like devotion. We have yet to see if Hydaelyn's tempering is somehow different from the primals. So it's possible, perhaps. RE: Your opinions on certain theories - Kellach Woods - 07-04-2016 Tempering as per Primals? Until we confirm that Hydaelyn is a primal, that goes in the conspiracy theory folder. RE: Your opinions on certain theories - Kilieit - 07-05-2016 (07-04-2016, 11:19 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote: Tempering as per Primals? Until we confirm that Hydaelyn is a primal, that goes in the conspiracy theory folder. Well, by my understanding, the way the Primals temper you is by flooding your aetherial essence with theirs until they resonate together. The meteor dream always looked a whole lot like that, to me. I don't think you have to be a "summoned by devout worshippers, can be banished" type of creature to have a large aetheric reservoir with a strong resonance capable of bringing other aetheric entities into line. It's a conspiracy theory, yeah - but one that's hinted at by NPCs, including some of the actual Primals. I think it's fair to discuss it as a possibility. Oh, something that just occured to me to add, though - even if the WoL isn't a Primal themself, the existence of the Blade of Light always struck me as odd. Amassing a huge amount of aether into a particular shape... (shrugs) RE: Your opinions on certain theories - Valence - 07-05-2016 (07-04-2016, 07:55 PM)Kilieit Wrote: But on the other hand: Balmung SL Aghurlal has (somewhat unknowingly - he's only had the meteor dream) disregarded the will of Hydaelyn, despite having the Echo. Which wouldn't work if the Echo was evidence of him having been tempered in Her name. So... obviously not. xD Technically the echo has not much to do with Hydaelyn since even Ascians have it. The blessing of Light though... yeah. |