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RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Edvyn - 10-05-2017
(10-04-2017, 07:56 PM)Evaleigh Wrote: "I'm an asshole" Self-proclamation means no guilt. Â People who claim they're jerks or assholes wanting you to disagree with them or be their friend in spite this will later hide behind their initial claim if they ever show asshole behavior later on. Â I might still RP with an asshole but I'll take them at face value if they make this kind of claim.
this one really can't be emphasized enough, it's gotten more common in more recent days (though i guess it's always held an appeal) for people to loudly announce - even in ooc terms - how much of an utter prick they are, and how incredibly cool this also makes them. used to do that shit myself and worked out at some point it was a terrible, terrible brand.
used to be that people made a show of how much of a brain genius they were, now we're seeing a rise in posturing of a different kind - how emotionally resilient they are, and how anyone who won't tolerate their obnoxiousness is either thin-skinned or a tumblrista/ina/whatever or, if they want to be particularly edgy, triggered (because ptsd is fucking hilarious folks)
interestingly these types also get pretty indignant if you point this out in a way that doesn't sound as cool as they wanted their shit behaviour to be perceived. people wanna shock, offend, annoy, whatever but a lot of the time they're just totally fucking boring and people around them haven't got the patience to put up with someone who has the outlook and demeanour of a youtube pundit who has nothing new to say under the sun
wow that post was longer than i expected, back into my hidey hole
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Firefly - 10-05-2017
(10-04-2017, 04:13 PM)Verad Wrote: Agreed on that. I remember that, back in the dark days of AOL, players would have entire narrative comment strings acting as a separate, quasi-OOC conversation in emotes mostly about gossiping and insulting other characters. It was ridiculous then and ridiculous now.
Jesus H. Christ, yes. That kind of thing was the most infuriating writing to read -- nevermind it being insanely petty or rude, most of the time the people who did this made zero effort in masking their passive aggression in wit or irony, so it wasn't even entertaining.
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Kieron Lohengrin - 10-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 06:18 AM)Arashin Kujqai Wrote: To be fair, I know some people who are new to RP that do this and get overwhelmed when there's a dozen RP sessions going on nearby. Trying to keep up with their own session and etc.
That's what chat filters and tabs are for, and why it's best to rp out in the world, away from bars
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Arashin Kujqai - 10-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 07:43 AM)Kieron Lohengrin Wrote:Can't separate say chat from say chat though :/. I agree however, that world RP is more fun imo anyways, but when I do happen to RP at bars.... it occasionally can get overwhelming depending on how active/busy it is. Not really anyone's fault, just one of those things some people and myself may be unable to adapt to well enough at times.(10-05-2017, 06:18 AM)Arashin Kujqai Wrote: To be fair, I know some people who are new to RP that do this and get overwhelmed when there's a dozen RP sessions going on nearby. Trying to keep up with their own session and etc.
That's what chat filters and tabs are for, and why it's best to rp out in the world, away from bars
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - ExAtomos - 10-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 08:53 AM)Arashin Kujqai Wrote:(10-05-2017, 07:43 AM)Kieron Lohengrin Wrote:Can't separate say chat from say chat though :/. I agree however, that world RP is more fun imo anyways, but when I do happen to RP at bars.... it occasionally can get overwhelming depending on how active/busy it is. Not really anyone's fault, just one of those things some people and myself may be unable to adapt to well enough at times.(10-05-2017, 06:18 AM)Arashin Kujqai Wrote: To be fair, I know some people who are new to RP that do this and get overwhelmed when there's a dozen RP sessions going on nearby. Trying to keep up with their own session and etc.
That's what chat filters and tabs are for, and why it's best to rp out in the world, away from bars
No, but you can move your group into party chat instead. It helps lots.
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Zhu - 10-05-2017
People that are constantly involved in random drama - Even when they can be right and make good points, their contribution to every big or little argument/feud going on makes me question their motives and levels of toxicity.
Community celebrities - It's not true for all popular posters but throughout all the communities I've been into across a few years of RP, I definitely noticed that the bigger names have bigger chances to develop a huge ego. I avoid them unless I find evidence that they are actually nice.
Use of RP tags in the search info - I know that this is a little specific but I noticed that people that sports those 'M/[insert length post reference here]/whatever' can really struggle with committing to specific RP partners and completely forget or ignore promises they made to you because they jump from random to random so much they just forget about you in the mix. Not always true, of course and maybe I've simply been unlucky. Still my experience.
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - ExAtomos - 10-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 03:11 PM)Zhu Wrote:Use of RP tags in the search info - I know that this is a little specific but I noticed that people that sports those 'M/[insert length post reference here]/whatever' can really struggle with committing to specific RP partners and completely forget or ignore promises they made to you because they jump from random to random so much they just forget about you in the mix. Not always true, of course and maybe I've simply been unlucky. Still my experience.
I'm really curious about this one. Are you saying that people who have RP info in their search info tend to be flaky? O_o
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Zhu - 10-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 03:39 PM)ExAtomos Wrote:That's been my experience so far. Perhaps it's unrelated but I began to associate it with people that don't commit too much. I did had a few regulars with them of course but I tend to get dropped by tagged people way more often than those that aren't. I can't exactly explain the science behind it as I'd like to know, myself. Maybe they just have too many people to keep track of. The tags are meant to interact with as many randos as possible, after all.(10-05-2017, 03:11 PM)Zhu Wrote:Use of RP tags in the search info - I know that this is a little specific but I noticed that people that sports those 'M/[insert length post reference here]/whatever' can really struggle with committing to specific RP partners and completely forget or ignore promises they made to you because they jump from random to random so much they just forget about you in the mix. Not always true, of course and maybe I've simply been unlucky. Still my experience.
I'm really curious about this one. Are you saying that people who have RP info in their search info tend to be flaky? O_o
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Erah'sae - 10-05-2017
Oh my red flags... where do I start.....
1.) Not using all of the letters.  If people are talking in shorthand like we're on pagers in the 90's. I left that decade behind a long time ago.  I can't stand it. It is all I can do to not be vitriolic about the habits and walk away.
2.) More OOC chat than IC chat. - I'm an immersive RPer, I tend to ignore OOC almost all together when I'm really able to get IC. Â
If someone between lines is discussing the latest youtube video or how awseome other event in public channels while RPing, I'll probably pass from anything serious. I don't mind slow typing, but waiting 10 minutes because someone won't actually pay attention... no.
3.) More OOC chat than IC chat. - Round 2. Someone who wants to discuss the potential outcomes of everything OOCly or wants to chat OOCly along side RP. When I RP I want to forget myself, and let the character go, if we're discussing everything OOC between lines of IC text, you're going to get more me than the characters. That sets off my self-metagaming flag and I won't enjoy it. I want to have my character be able to say the wrong things, make mistakes, be blatantly wrong and the like.
4.) Drama mongers. Nuff said.
On one of the earlier topics, folks that leave mid RP, or only do small scene things. Sadly, that's me for the most part. In big crowds, I have about 30 minutes before the chat scroll starts inducing major headaches. My fiancee can't either.  It's a bit saddening but It might have something to do with getting older, but we just can't swing the chat spam like we used to. Â
Filtering the chat down to party doesn't really help because I feel horrible about missing people trying to interact with me in /say or what not.  It also makes me twitch since I'm of a school that anything I say ICly should be audible and able to be acted upon by those that would be able to hear it, especially if I'm not expecting them to.
Also, sometimes the discord bot is exploding (or people are exploding about the bot) and I have to take care of it. (Or the six year old decides to defy bedtime, I'm not sure which requires more mid-RP work than the other...)
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Erah'sae - 10-05-2017
A few other things....
a.) Anyone who tries to, ICly or OOCly dissuade other people from playing with your character by being offensive or otherwise constantly making them uncomfortable. Esp if they do this OOCly.
b.) If someone keeps trying to pull you away from group events or trying to make some RP more important than your pre-planned RP with others. This is a warning sign and fits in with a.
c.) Anyone who pushing boundaries despite being asked OOCly not to, especially OOC boundaries.
d.) People who, when the night is wrapping up, always have something else important that needs to be addressed in private ICly, or always has some new drama that they "need to talk to someone about".  Often times they have to get the last moments of your time before you log out, and keep you around or make you commit to private rp when you get back using you having to leave as something to hold over your head.
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Cato - 10-05-2017
- A lack of willingness to actually commit to anything. It's so weird that many role-players love to talk about potential plots and character interactions but never actually commit to them.
- An obsession with romance and/or erotic role-play at the cost of anything else. This is particularly irritating when those involved only ever seem to commit to something if it serves to advance their relationship arc.
- Individuals in positions of leadership who claim to be open to constructive criticism yet grow cold and distant even when a reasonable issue is brought to their doorstep.
- Individuals who act like because someone is pleasant to them that individual could never do something unpleasant to somebody else.
- A lack of willingness to actually talk any potential issues out in a calm and civil manner before they fester. I've seen trivial problems become dire due to such idiocy.
- Individuals who get online and then immediately rant about real life issues. It's fine from time to time but when it's every single day it just comes across as an attempt to fish for sympathy; plus a lot of people have issues but choose not to reveal them at the first opportunity.
- Individuals who only seem interested in role-play if it involves their character being in a prominent position, particularly during events. It took me a while to realise that such was the case with a few former friends. Tying in with that, role-players who only seem to treat other people's characters as convenient props to be used and thrown away at will.
- Individuals who seem very quick to retcon major aspects of their character or background, especially if it's on a whim and not in response to some new lore being revealed that may work better with what they had planned.
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Arashin Kujqai - 10-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 10:16 AM)ExAtomos Wrote:But then that both can kill the immersive quality and make you look like you're lamping. Also kinda ruins the fun idea of a walkup happening when someone doesn't realize you're in RP with another player... It depends really who of the session get this anxious feeling. I personally enjoy RP'ing with someone in /s and someone walks up overhearing conversation or something. Tend to have more fun that way since it applies some form of realism that you can be heard aloud.(10-05-2017, 08:53 AM)Arashin Kujqai Wrote:(10-05-2017, 07:43 AM)Kieron Lohengrin Wrote:Can't separate say chat from say chat though :/. I agree however, that world RP is more fun imo anyways, but when I do happen to RP at bars.... it occasionally can get overwhelming depending on how active/busy it is. Not really anyone's fault, just one of those things some people and myself may be unable to adapt to well enough at times.(10-05-2017, 06:18 AM)Arashin Kujqai Wrote: To be fair, I know some people who are new to RP that do this and get overwhelmed when there's a dozen RP sessions going on nearby. Trying to keep up with their own session and etc.
That's what chat filters and tabs are for, and why it's best to rp out in the world, away from bars
No, but you can move your group into party chat instead. It helps lots.
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Faye - 10-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 06:18 AM)Arashin Kujqai Wrote: To be fair, I know some people who are new to RP that do this and get overwhelmed when there's a dozen RP sessions going on nearby. Trying to keep up with their own session and etc.
I'm a lil guilty of this myself once in a while when it's too crowded of an area and there's a few par-RP going on nearby. Sometimes I lose track of both my own text and my partner(s). x.x; Some people also just have anxiety that can strike randomly from things like this. But I understand the more specific "I only do RP in private" types that have a hidden agenda.
I don't think that's the same thing as Person A having a single friend show up to join or watch the RP and Person B suddenly running off out of "fear," hence why I specified as much.
Even as someone with anxiety, the very least you can do is message the person you're RPing to let them know you're leaving and why (and I'm not counting a crytyping "I wwas sso scared!!" ten minutes later when you ask them why they ran off without saying a word lol).
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Faye - 10-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 03:54 PM)Zhu Wrote:(10-05-2017, 03:39 PM)ExAtomos Wrote:That's been my experience so far. Perhaps it's unrelated but I began to associate it with people that don't commit too much. I did had a few regulars with them of course but I tend to get dropped by tagged people way more often than those that aren't. I can't exactly explain the science behind it as I'd like to know, myself. Maybe they just have too many people to keep track of. The tags are meant to interact with as many randos as possible, after all.(10-05-2017, 03:11 PM)Zhu Wrote:Use of RP tags in the search info - I know that this is a little specific but I noticed that people that sports those 'M/[insert length post reference here]/whatever' can really struggle with committing to specific RP partners and completely forget or ignore promises they made to you because they jump from random to random so much they just forget about you in the mix. Not always true, of course and maybe I've simply been unlucky. Still my experience.
I'm really curious about this one. Are you saying that people who have RP info in their search info tend to be flaky? O_o
That... sounds like coincidental correlation rather than any sort of causation or direct relationship there? If anything, I'd say most RPers are flaky and most RPers have RP tags in their search info so... of course the two are going to align. Or that has been my experience, at any rate.
RE: Red Flags in RP/RP Partners? - Arashin Kujqai - 10-05-2017
(10-05-2017, 06:23 PM)Faye Wrote:Well yeah definitely XD that's more specific. I knew someone back on Siren that used to get panic attacks mid-RP and couldn't type or anything because she got too overwhelmed though. So I just give the benefit of the doubt now. I get whatcha mean though.(10-05-2017, 06:18 AM)Arashin Kujqai Wrote: To be fair, I know some people who are new to RP that do this and get overwhelmed when there's a dozen RP sessions going on nearby. Trying to keep up with their own session and etc.
I'm a lil guilty of this myself once in a while when it's too crowded of an area and there's a few par-RP going on nearby. Sometimes I lose track of both my own text and my partner(s). x.x; Some people also just have anxiety that can strike randomly from things like this. But I understand the more specific "I only do RP in private" types that have a hidden agenda.
I don't think that's the same thing as Person A having a single friend show up to join or watch the RP and Person B suddenly running off out of "fear," hence why I specified as much.