(09-23-2014, 09:39 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:

(09-23-2014, 09:06 AM)J Wrote:

(09-23-2014, 07:58 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: But no perk of housing is absolutely necessary. My point is that the ONLY thing that stood out to make being in an FC "worth it" was the housing option and the extra chat slot.

What's 'necessary' is completely subjective based on any given player's desires. You might not like doing dungeons but that doesn't mean there's not a hefty amount of players eager to run them over and over again. 

The developers have already announced that they'll be adding the ability for players to build their own airships within their houses in the future, so that's yet another appealing feature that will be locked behind an artificial barrier should the housing shortage not be resolved by that point.

Hunting down achievements in WoW and FFXIV isn't 'necessary' by your definition though countless players players invest in those features regardless and they enjoy it. If you don't care for housing, fine - just please stop acting like your word is law and that nobody should care for it if they're so inclined to enjoy such in-game features.

In the loosest of terms, sure, content is subjective. If you consider chocobo dye to be content, we just disagree. It has no impact on gameplay outside of vanity. It's a step above free-to-play cash shop options.

I use the word "necessary" to imply you're not barred from playing the game in any way without a house. You lose access to personal land to garden on and the ability to hold a stable, which is fair. To repeat it in case it wasn't clear, I agree that they dd a shitty job making housing available.

Regarding airships, though: We have no idea what content will be used with them. If it's a multi-million gil timesink requiring all crafts to 50 and 4* synths and all it grants you is a different travel CS out of the cities, do you think it makes sense for a single person to build their own airship? It's meant to be something you work for, not something handed to you.

(09-23-2014, 10:18 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: But saying "it's in the game so I should have it if I want" removes needing to work for it. If my idea of playing the game is wearing a Thug's Mug and Mandervilling on top of Tataru, I've gotta do the MSQ and requisite side story to get there.

I realize, of course, you're not arguing otherwise. I really do feel for the people who were willing to buy homes but were unable because of supply/demand.

(09-23-2014, 10:18 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: But saying "it's in the game so I should have it if I want" removes needing to work for it. If my idea of playing the game is wearing a Thug's Mug and Mandervilling on top of Tataru, I've gotta do the MSQ and requisite side story to get there.

(09-23-2014, 10:20 AM)Flickering Ember Wrote: As others have stated, the real issue is availability here. Even when the additional wards are introduced, there are still enough people on the server to see a complete house buyout shortly after servers are up again. 

Is it really fair to the players who have lives who can't stay up until 4 am just to camp out and grab a house? Just so they can be able to continue pursuing the features of the game they enjoy the most?

Nice relevant part from Yoshi-p's post Wrote:The development team has been making the most of limited server resources to develop a new system that will allow us to add as many new housing plots as possible

(09-23-2014, 10:38 AM)Jrakh Nunh Wrote: Someone isn't 'more exclusive' just because they happened to play eighteen hours a day, seven days a week and managed to scrape together ten million gil whilst also being lucky enough to get online with no issue during a very tiny window of time when the last patch went live.

Quote:1ex·clu·sive
adjective \iks-ˈklü-siv, -ziv\

: not shared : available to only one person or group

(09-23-2014, 10:46 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: Until there's enough wards in the game that people aren't filling them up anymore, this is the lay of the land.

(09-23-2014, 10:50 AM)Jrakh Nunh Wrote: Forcing players to compete for something that is highly desirable and pretty standard in the industry is just silly. It's not even their intention to force players to compete for a house of their own, they just haven't gotten around to upgrading the servers in order to handle the unexpected success of FFXIV.

It also spawns a toxic community with players placing themselves on a pedestal for being one of the lucky few to be able to log on at a specific time to purchase a house and then ramble about it being 'tough luck' that people with real life commitments at the time couldn't attempt the same thing.

There's no 'achievement' in logging on at a specific time and date.

(09-23-2014, 10:53 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: You would have haaaaated the fishing weeklies in WoW, then.

Your monthly fee doesn't entitle you to everything. It's unfortunate, but someone's gotta say it. If you want a house, you've got to want it more than the people who ARE logging out in front of the zoneline and waking up at 3:30am and spamming refresh on the log-in screen. Otherwise, you're waiting until the demand has died down.

(09-23-2014, 10:53 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: You would have haaaaated the fishing weeklies in WoW, then.

Your monthly fee doesn't entitle you to everything. It's unfortunate, but someone's gotta say it. If you want a house, you've got to want it more than the people who ARE logging out in front of the zoneline and waking up at 3:30am and spamming refresh on the log-in screen. Otherwise, you're waiting until the demand has died down.

And we all agree it sucks.

(09-23-2014, 10:59 AM)Naunet Wrote: Please, please point me to the MMO trend where fishing weeklies designed as a racing competition are established as standard, available to everyone content, as housing is.

(09-23-2014, 11:01 AM)Jrakh Nunh Wrote: Either way a single weekly quest does not compare to something as massively anticipated as player housing which can be customised extensively and encourages player investment.