(10-01-2014, 03:41 PM)Jana Wrote: I think there's a distinction to be made between RPers who are okay with ERPing, ERPers, and those just looking to cyber. But that's a discussion for another thread.

(10-02-2014, 01:08 AM)Mercurias Wrote: If people do it? Fine. Just keep it to party and tells and don't be gross in public. Basically, the same social rules we all are supposed to obey if we ever walk away from our computers.

(10-02-2014, 02:18 AM)Iex Wrote: Not to be that guy....

But is this discussion really necessary? So long as the parties involved are consenting adults and being respectful of those around them (and tack on a "is legal too"), what people do with their fifteen dollars a month is not really anyone's business. You can classify them all you want, but ... will that change anything?

Folks will have hang-ups or down right despising of people who role-play intimate (or otherwise) encounters not matter what the 'conditions' of it occurring, but that is not on the community's head to try to police or educate folks on. You can tell an amazing story without once having characters be intimate and at the same time tell an amazing story and have the characters fuck every other scene. The role-play content is up to those involved and no one else.

I agree there are some folks who fall into the categories mentioned and I agree if the individuals are not being respectful to those around them that is a problem, but frankly... does it serve any purpose trying to educate about or justify role-play that isn't really the business of the community at large.

(10-01-2014, 03:32 PM)Aldotsk Wrote: I just try to blacklist ERPers because I just don't find it fun and I feel like it's a disgusting subject to bring up in games.

It also makes most role players look bad to non role players because non RPers always stereotype us and assume that we ERP majority of the time. 

Futanari or not, ERP shouldn't even exist which is why I avoid those benches like plague.

(10-02-2014, 02:36 AM)ArmachiA Wrote:

(10-02-2014, 02:18 AM)Iex Wrote: Not to be that guy....

But is this discussion really necessary? So long as the parties involved are consenting adults and being respectful of those around them (and tack on a "is legal too"), what people do with their fifteen dollars a month is not really anyone's business. You can classify them all you want, but ... will that change anything?

Folks will have hang-ups or down right despising of people who role-play intimate (or otherwise) encounters not matter what the 'conditions' of it occurring, but that is not on the community's head to try to police or educate folks on. You can tell an amazing story without once having characters be intimate and at the same time tell an amazing story and have the characters fuck every other scene. The role-play content is up to those involved and no one else.

I agree there are some folks who fall into the categories mentioned and I agree if the individuals are not being respectful to those around them that is a problem, but frankly... does it serve any purpose trying to educate about or justify role-play that isn't really the business of the community at large.

I think it has to because of things like this:

(10-01-2014, 03:32 PM)Aldotsk Wrote: I just try to blacklist ERPers because I just don't find it fun and I feel like it's a disgusting subject to bring up in games.

It also makes most role players look bad to non role players because non RPers always stereotype us and assume that we ERP majority of the time. 

Futanari or not, ERP shouldn't even exist which is why I avoid those benches like plague.

Which is a fairly ignorant statement and blankets RPers who do it. If you beleive sex serves no narrative point at all, you aren't even looking at any form of fiction over the last 10,000 years.

(10-02-2014, 12:44 AM)Jana Wrote:

(10-01-2014, 03:41 PM)Jana Wrote: I think there's a distinction to be made between RPers who are okay with ERPing, ERPers, and those just looking to cyber. But that's a discussion for another thread.

Here I am, making this thread for that discussion, to avoid derailing that other discussion any further!

Doctor's Note: As has been discussed, any roleplayer could fall into that trap of "taking IC interactions as OOC intentions," ERPer or not! This isn't really intended to discuss that kind of thing, since I'm making this thread to stop derailing the one that is for that talk. This is also meant to be a very general kind of grouping; I'd like to spark a discussion and would love to read any input!

The first kind of ERPer is "The RPer Who is Okay With ERPing." This is someone who is an average, normal RPer who is okay with writing out an erotic scene if their character should happen to end up in such a situation. This is also someone with a thought-out character, with their own goals and personalities, maybe even their own ongoing long-term plotlines! Treat this kind of person with the same respect you'd afford to any other RPer. Chances are these kinds of roleplayers are all around you already; you just haven't RPed with them in a situation where eroticism would come up. And if you do end up in such a situation but you don't want to ERP, most of these roleplayers will be perfectly okay with a "fade to black." Anyone who is not, or who tries to pressure you into roleplay you don't want to play out, is an Abusive Jerk.

Next, I'll talk about "The ERPer." This is someone who roleplays with a character, often with the purpose of getting that character laid. This is not necessarily someone who doesn't want un-erotic roleplay, but it must be understood that a big, overarching story line isn't going to be their goal. This also isn't always someone who's looking to set their character up a long-term relationship with other characters, though it can be! If you run into this kind of roleplayer and aren't interested in what they're looking for, be firm but polite! Being rude to ERPers has led to the notion of "Non-ERPers are elitist jerks," which leads to further arguing and drama between what ends up as two divided camps. Jerks exist in every kind of roleplay, not exclusively to ERP or not!

Then we have "The Person Who Wants to Cyber." This kind of player will often have a character without a real, role-played personality or background; the character is an avatar for the act. The easiest way to tell between someone who wants to ERP (remember, it stands for Erotic Role Play) and someone who wants to cyber is that there isn't a distinction made between player and character for the latter. This kind of person also often uses first and second-person pronouns ("I touch your butt" as opposed to "She touches his butt"). Again, if you're not interested in what this person is looking for, be firm and polite in your refusal. Don't feel too bad if they require blacklisting, since these aren't what one would normally categorize as role players, but it often doesn't need to be your first resort.

After this, there's an assortment of unruly types, like Shout Catcallers, Emote Bad Touchers, and Unsolicited Whispering Creeps. These can all be classified as Abusive Jerks, so don't hesitate to blacklist these kinds of people if they prove troublesome. They won't want to roleplay with you normally anyway!

Hopefully, I didn't overlook anything obvious with these sweeping generalizations, but feel free to point out anything I have!