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RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Conchris - 09-27-2016
Trying to do Wondrous Tails in solo synch queue is like pulling teeth, especially on mechanic heavy fights like Leviathan EX and Thornmarch EX. Queuing up is bad enough as the queue times are stupid long, even as a healer. (I main SCH when I'm not doing dungeons with my FC.)
No matter how many times I try to do Leviathan EX, I swear, I get the strangest of groups where half the DPS straight up dies from a stiff breeze (and these are synched level 50s, not real level 50s). I can forgive mistakes but to repeat it over and over and over and over and over makes me want to punch a moogle in the face. And to top it off, how is it possible to not be able to DPS down the Wavetooth Sahagin quickly enough before he screws everyone over with Dreadwash? Even with healer DPS?
At least the /facepalm emote is getting some mileage, so there's that.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Kage - 09-27-2016
Wavetooth needs to be stunned before the cast. I don't remember there ever being enough dps for 50s to kill it without a stun.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Aaron - 09-27-2016
A12 is gonna be fun farming every week
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Edgar - 09-27-2016
(09-27-2016, 07:55 PM)Aaron Wrote: A12 is gonna be fun farming every week
A11. Marked the shield to be destroyed. The party continued attacking the boss as he was invulnerable over and over until he wiped the raid.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Conchris - 09-27-2016
(09-27-2016, 07:30 PM)Kage Wrote: Wavetooth needs to be stunned before the cast. I don't remember there ever being enough dps for 50s to kill it without a stun.Hmm, you could be right. I know a lot of the mechanics of Leviathan off by heart but never could quite remember the wave guys apart from the fact that tooth wipes the raid. Dodging the giant serpent doing acrobatics must've made me gloss over it.
Either way, long wait plus bad groups equals grump.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Valence - 09-28-2016
I haven't found A12 to be especially harder than the other ones (unlike A4 and A8 were compared to their respective series)..
(09-27-2016, 07:30 PM)Kage Wrote: Wavetooth needs to be stunned before the cast. I don't remember there ever being enough dps for 50s to kill it without a stun.
Most of the PuG groups I ran leviathan ex with used to just not bother with the stun (knowing the unstability of PuGs), and outright used the LB on him every time.
Works like a charm like that at least, even if a bit of an overkill.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Jana - 09-28-2016
I ran Wiping City for the first time last night... The name was apply chosen by the community. I died a few times while learning mechanics but had the hang of it by the end, but an entire other alliance kept wiping us at Ozma (5 times), the zombie boss (twice), and whatever the last boss was named (twice). Took an hour and forty minutes to clear.
I got Aurum Vale in my LLR immediately after with a new-but-synched WAR who wiped us twice in the opening room and once on the first boss before I dropped. I just couldn't take it anymore...
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Pip - 09-28-2016
(09-28-2016, 11:55 AM)Jana Wrote: I got Aurum Vale in my LLR immediately after with a new-but-synched WAR who wiped us twice in the opening room and once on the first boss before I dropped. I just couldn't take it anymore...
I think I was the NIN in your group! That WAR.... One wipe because you forgot your tank stance when it synced you, that's fine. Two because you forgot your tank stance when it synced you and you pulled half the room, we'll call it a learning curve. Kill me thrice, shame on you. I left right after you did. Thanks for eating the lockout penalty.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Jana - 09-28-2016
No problem, gave me a chance to check out some other new things before bed!
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Gegenji - 09-28-2016
I was whining a bit about this in the chat room earlier, but I figure I can add it here for posterity.
I have to wonder if some people either fail to learn things during the course of play... or buy accounts and are just being horribly blatant about their inexperience coming into high-level content.
I say this because I had a BRD in Alexander 11... Heart of the Creator, I think it is called? Anyway, this girl was dying. A lot. And to stuff we were explaining to her. Here's a general list of things that caught my attention.
"Get behind the tanks for Propeller Wind." Stands out in the open and gets confused. When she finally gets it, she stands behind them when there ISN'T a Propeller Wind coming and eats Magitek bit lasers.
"Activate the vents to get on the ship." First she doesn't move for them at all. Second attempt she moves and just stands on them so we have to tell her to CLICK THEM. Third attempt she says she clicked them but nothing happened, so we have to specify RIGHT CLICKING.
"Just push any button to eject." Another fun one. I was doing this on ACCIDENT on our first attempts before it was mentioned what was needed to be done. To her. You literally just have to hit any key when the Eject prompt action comes up and you hop off to safety - and you have four seconds to do it. She doesn't, somehow, and ends up getting lasered to death. Again.
"LB before pull." This one actually happened after the first attempt, so it predates some of the other bullet points but makes a nice capper for my little rant. We had two full bars so one of the tanks asked her to LB the boss for some early damage. She stands around waiting until someone else does a regular pull (out of boredom or something, I guess, it was a SMN and almost got himself punched in the teeth in the process) and then complains how it's not doing anything. You know, trying to LB after the bar's drained because we're in combat now.
All this is on top of standing in AoEs and generally wasting healer MP rezzing her since our SMN also couldn't be bothered to use HIS MP to help out. Ended up with a vote abandon after a good half dozen or so attempts. Later got into another group with all mostly new people and we had it down in, like, four. And no one had issues with the airship portion or pre-pull LBs, and barely any with Propeller Winds past the first pull.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Alexia Peregris - 10-02-2016
To add to the long list of stories about people who don't listen or simply don't understand basic gameplay, I bring you a tale of a recent excursion into Pharos Sirius NM!
At first it was the regular duty roulette fare: the tank isn't using cooldowns and is pulling one trash group at a time, but I'm not being too fussy about this because the DPS are me (a trusty MCH) and a sprout ninja, so I understand going slow. The healer- bless his heart- knows what he's doing, but I notice he isn't doing any DPS, however I say nothing at first. This is lazy mode DF, so whatever. But then we get to Symond, I use Wildfire burst, pull aggro off the tank immediately, and barely survive thanks to the healer. But tank takes back aggro with some difficulty and then they die instantly and we wipe. On a boss that's just 'dodge the AOEs'. So we run back and then we wipe yet again, and the ninja says 'bruh what is the deal' (from that one phrase I knew exactly how much of a nightmare this guy would be). It occurs to me now that several things aren't quite right...
- The ninja isn't using Ninjutsus. At all. I checked, three times.
- The tank is tanking in Sword Oath. I cried.
- The tank is using defensive CDs and letting them fall off before running up to the boss. I... don't know why.
- The healer- bless his heart- is doing his very best and keeping us as alive as he can.Â
I roll pass on the loot, tell the healer he was an ace, as if to thank him while also passive aggressively condemning the tank and ninja, and left after a moment of deep breathing. So I got my tomestones, but no commendation.
Video games are fun.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Unnamed Mercenary - 10-02-2016
This is always a good one.
Entered a guildhest as a healer.
One of the DPS decides he's gonna AFK the entire time and never moves.
The tank is a chicken with its head cut off and runs around picking up mob after mob while I get to be honorary DPS to make up the lack. (Which is fine. Cleric stance is easy to manage for me.)
The other DPS and I attempt to kick the inactive and the tank won't let us because he keeps grabbing more mobs. You can't vote dismiss in battle.
Shitty DPS only moves once we've cleared everything to go pick up his "reward." It must have been such hard work.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Parvacake - 10-02-2016
(10-02-2016, 11:51 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: This is always a good one.I had that once, only it was the healer who was the lazy bum.
Entered a guildhest as a healer.
One of the DPS decides he's gonna AFK the entire time and never moves.
The tank is a chicken with its head cut off and runs around picking up mob after mob while I get to be honorary DPS to make up the lack. (Which is fine. Cleric stance is easy to manage for me.)
The other DPS and I attempt to kick the inactive and the tank won't let us because he keeps grabbing more mobs. You can't vote dismiss in battle.
Shitty DPS only moves once we've cleared everything to go pick up his "reward." It must have been such hard work.
Luckily it was the low guildhest (I think one of the first ones you get) so we cleared it without even getting down to a quarter health.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Charity322 - 10-03-2016
(10-02-2016, 11:59 PM)Lililove Wrote: I had that once, only it was the healer who was the lazy bum.
Luckily it was the low guildhest (I think one of the first ones you get) so we cleared it without even getting down to a quarter health.
To be fair, some people just don't wait. I'm sure I've looked like a lazy bum in that low level guildhest because everyone is halfway through attacking and the enemies haven't even loaded for me yet, so I'm just standing there waiting.
RE: The Vent Tent - Poor PuGs and Other Terrible Tales - Enla - 10-24-2016
Yes, let's force the newbie to tank the raid. Ignoring that they're over forty ilvl's under both of the other tanks AND also have to deal with the other two randomly trying to rip hate before immediately switching back into DPS stances... And now I'm realizing why I miss healing all the more potently. Can't complain about the BLM who was hate ripping because they didn't use Quelling Strikes because they did apologize for it. However -yes- other tank, I NEEDED THEM TO USE QUELLING STRIKES THAT AS YOU ALL OUTCLASS ME WHEN IT COMES TO GEAR.