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Aduu Avagnar · **05-19-2015, 10:52 AM**

(05-19-2015, 10:44 AM)Edvyn Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 10:34 AM)Nako Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 10:25 AM)Edvyn Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 10:07 AM)Nako Wrote: No one is calling for kid gloves. The mods decided that it was required to actually be more stringent with the rules that everyone agreed to when signing up to the website.

That's being responsible and owning what you say.
and why did the mods decide that, i wonder? could it be because roleplayers were doing what roleplayers do best and making drama out of nothing?

the rules revisions weren't a random decision made on the fly, they were a reaction to a barrage of complaints

i have seen this kind of ridiculous shit happen in pretty much every rp community ive been part of (and it probably wasnt just me, surely im not that much of an impact on people). someone inevitably works themselves into rectal fission over the idea that they're being picked on, these people gradually form a loud and demanding group, administration goes on a witch hunt and things that were never seen as a problem in the past are suddenly mortal sins

it always happens, it's a fucking farce when it happens and im both amazed and appalled that it keeps happening no matter where i go

when will you people learn???

youre gonna miss me when im gone
personally? no I won't but that's cause I don't feel we're close, and as such, it will simply be a meh feeling. I will think it is sad that you felt you had to leave, but that will be it.

The reason, to my knowledge, that the rules were clarified was that the moderation team felt that the environment within the RPC had deteriorated to a point were taking action was felt to be an appropriate step. They are also members of the community, and have a fairly good grasp of the environment they want to promote. Most of them having been here since 1.0.

Yes, the number of complaints received likely went up as the community deteriorated. Which it did. That is a basic causality, and likely to be expected.

Also, to state that 'things that were never seen as a problem in the past are suddenly mortal sins' is a gross error. They were always against the rules, however there was more leniency given in that past. It is now felt that the leniency has been taken advantage of, and the mods are now being more proactive.

Don't like the rules? No one is telling you to stay.
it's like you didn't even read my post, you're just spouting the same tired points you've been trying to smugly shut other people down with for the past month or so

the mods felt this the mods felt that community deterioration theyve been round a long time they must be right dont like it leave youre wrong but im not gonna tell you why im just gonna use words like "causality" and "error" to make my arguments for me instead

i dont like the rules so im gonna bitch about them incessantly until im forced to stop, and then when im forced to stop im just gonna bitch somewhere else, i will bitch so goddamn hard that my keyboard will be sticky with sweat, tears, spilt coffee and drool

im gonna throw tantrums the likes of which the internet's never (read: always) seen and you're gonna watch me

and it's almost as if you've simply ignored those points cause they don't kowtow to your percieved freedoms on this site.

lets break it down for you. The community atmostphere within this group has deteriorated (or gotten worse, if you are unsure as to what it means). This is a fact. Even when there was heated debate and argument over which server for people to join, balmung or Gilgamesh, it was never this bad. As the mods have been part of that community, seeing it go through said deterioration, they are entitled to try and step up their game by actively policing the rules that you agree to when you sign up to this site.

I shouldn't have to tell you why that is.... it's just basic common understanding that moderators are there to, wait for it, moderate the users and the threads to ensure that they conform to the aforementioned rules.

believing that using specific words like errors diminishes my argument shows that it wasn't fully understood by yourself, so apologies if the language I have used is more simplistic for you this time.

Edvyn · **05-19-2015, 11:00 AM**

(05-19-2015, 10:52 AM)Nako Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 10:44 AM)Edvyn Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 10:34 AM)Nako Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 10:25 AM)Edvyn Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 10:07 AM)Nako Wrote: No one is calling for kid gloves. The mods decided that it was required to actually be more stringent with the rules that everyone agreed to when signing up to the website.

That's being responsible and owning what you say.
and why did the mods decide that, i wonder? could it be because roleplayers were doing what roleplayers do best and making drama out of nothing?

the rules revisions weren't a random decision made on the fly, they were a reaction to a barrage of complaints

i have seen this kind of ridiculous shit happen in pretty much every rp community ive been part of (and it probably wasnt just me, surely im not that much of an impact on people). someone inevitably works themselves into rectal fission over the idea that they're being picked on, these people gradually form a loud and demanding group, administration goes on a witch hunt and things that were never seen as a problem in the past are suddenly mortal sins

it always happens, it's a fucking farce when it happens and im both amazed and appalled that it keeps happening no matter where i go

when will you people learn???

youre gonna miss me when im gone
personally? no I won't but that's cause I don't feel we're close, and as such, it will simply be a meh feeling. I will think it is sad that you felt you had to leave, but that will be it.

The reason, to my knowledge, that the rules were clarified was that the moderation team felt that the environment within the RPC had deteriorated to a point were taking action was felt to be an appropriate step. They are also members of the community, and have a fairly good grasp of the environment they want to promote. Most of them having been here since 1.0.

Yes, the number of complaints received likely went up as the community deteriorated. Which it did. That is a basic causality, and likely to be expected.

Also, to state that 'things that were never seen as a problem in the past are suddenly mortal sins' is a gross error. They were always against the rules, however there was more leniency given in that past. It is now felt that the leniency has been taken advantage of, and the mods are now being more proactive.

Don't like the rules? No one is telling you to stay.
it's like you didn't even read my post, you're just spouting the same tired points you've been trying to smugly shut other people down with for the past month or so

the mods felt this the mods felt that community deterioration theyve been round a long time they must be right dont like it leave youre wrong but im not gonna tell you why im just gonna use words like "causality" and "error" to make my arguments for me instead

i dont like the rules so im gonna bitch about them incessantly until im forced to stop, and then when im forced to stop im just gonna bitch somewhere else, i will bitch so goddamn hard that my keyboard will be sticky with sweat, tears, spilt coffee and drool

im gonna throw tantrums the likes of which the internet's never (read: always) seen and you're gonna watch me
and it's almost as if you've simply ignored those points cause they don't kowtow to your percieved freedoms on this site.

lets break it down for you. The community atmostphere within this group has deteriorated (or gotten worse, if you are unsure as to what it means). This is a fact. Even when there was heated debate and argument over which server for people to join, balmung or Gilgamesh, it was never this bad. As the mods have been part of that community, seeing it go through said deterioration, they are entitled to try and step up their game by actively policing the rules that you agree to when you sign up to this site.

I shouldn't have to tell you why that is.... it's just basic common understanding that moderators are there to, wait for it, moderate the users and the threads to ensure that they conform to the aforementioned rules.

believing that using specific words like errors diminishes my argument shows that it wasn't fully understood by yourself, so apologies if the language I have used is more simplistic for you this time.

i pick fights with chumps like you for sport, i've seen the internet smartguy act plenty of times before and it doesn't work no matter how hard you try to push it

your language doesn't matter to me, i can understand everything you're telling me, you're just not giving me facts - my actual concern is that you don't understand what you're saying

if it's a fact, prove it. show me the deterioration. stop talking down to people and trying to show a bunch of forum nerds how clever you are for talking like a fucking android

Ignacius · **05-19-2015, 11:02 AM**

(05-19-2015, 10:13 AM)Nako Wrote:
(05-19-2015, 09:33 AM)Ignacius Wrote: On that note, what the Hell is a "liberal" police state? Â I mean, leftist I'd understand, but liberal police state is an oxymoron. Â A police state is, by definition, totalitarian.
it's probably the same sort of thing as a Liberal Fascist.... at least in the way that it tends to be used now.

It still doesn't make any sense. Â Totalitarianism isn't "liberal" no matter what the ideology is. Â You can't strictly enforce anarchy.

I mean, either way, it does feel pretty toxic on this forum. Â I think it'd do for people to just step back and take a breath.

I mean, we do still talk about RP here, right?

Ignacius · **05-19-2015, 11:04 AM**

(05-19-2015, 11:00 AM)Edvyn Wrote: i pick fights with chumps like you for sport, i've seen the internet smartguy act plenty of times before and it doesn't work no matter how hard you try to push it

your language doesn't matter to me, i can understand everything you're telling me, you're just not giving me facts - my actual concern is that you don't understand what you're saying

if it's a fact, prove it. show me the deterioration. stop talking down to people and trying to show a bunch of forum nerds how clever you are for talking like a fucking android

You just showed everyone the deterioration, ironically.

Edda · **05-19-2015, 11:04 AM**

(05-19-2015, 10:52 AM)Nako Wrote: and it's almost as if you've simply ignored those points cause they don't kowtow to your percieved freedoms on this site.

lets break it down for you. The community atmostphere within this group has deteriorated (or gotten worse, if you are unsure as to what it means). This is a fact. Even when there was heated debate and argument over which server for people to join, balmung or Gilgamesh, it was never this bad. As the mods have been part of that community, seeing it go through said deterioration, they are entitled to try and step up their game by actively policing the rules that you agree to when you sign up to this site.

I shouldn't have to tell you why that is.... it's just basic common understanding that moderators are there to, wait for it, moderate the users and the threads to ensure that they conform to the aforementioned rules.

believing that using specific words like errors diminishes my argument shows that it wasn't fully understood by yourself, so apologies if the language I have used is more simplistic for you this time.

Bad form, dude. Not really sure what you're trying to pick a fight about, as you've said essentially nothing that hasn't already been discussed thoroughly, but the snide attitude isn't doing you any favors, and only contributes to the deterioration you mentioned.

Hammersmith · **05-19-2015, 11:05 AM**

(05-19-2015, 11:00 AM)Edvyn Wrote: i pick fights with chumps like you for sport,

And this is where it stops being a discussion.

This is where you are being the asshole.

This is where you need to back down and consider discussion for the sake of understanding a point instead of winning.

No one's going to win here.

***Alothia*** · **05-19-2015, 11:05 AM**

And with that, I'm closing this down.

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