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ArmachiA · **03-12-2015, 05:34 PM**

I think for plot purposes, "Fought and Killed" an Ascian would be impossible. The MSQ deals with trying to kill an Ascian so much that it pretty much beats into your head how hard it would be. And that regular non-fantastical plot armor characters couldn't do it. If an Ascian plot was done, it would be more in his observer roll (Like... the Observers from Fringe) The Ascian has a long con going on that mortals would never understand and they need to shift things a certain way in order to facilitate this plan. IN THAT respect - an Ascian could very well be interested in a Sultansworn - because he needs him to do something that won't have consequences till much later or tricks him into a bargain that will benefit the Ascians down the road (Like when the Ascians taught the beastmen to summon Primals using Crystals or helping Gaius at all). I don't think Ascians have any interest in mortals unless they need them for something we just don't know about.

Which I think could work as a plot point if spun correctly.

As a PC though, that's too much power for one person to hold. So Ascians have "thralls"? I thought that Ascians weren't even known about by the general populace?

Saefinn · **03-13-2015, 04:24 AM**

That is more or less the lines of the kind of thing that I am thinking.

If you were to piss an Ascian off, I would say a victory would not be defeating the Ascian, but survive long enough for you to be a waste of effort. Ascians very much still live in the shadows and don't like to make their presence too aware and to a certain extent that could work to your advantage in dealing with them, but of course, they are not to be taken lightly, at all. For instance, notice the first victory against an Ascian, you're not exactly swarmed by Ascians after trying to murderify you.

The way I've been looking at doing it, is I have one character, who is investigating the Ascians on their own terms, because they had managed to stumble upon one, but is keeping their distance and making themselves very hard to track (said person was under suspicion of our Captain's kidnapping, but nobody could track said person). The Ascian would take an interest in our crew in-so-far as being useful to them, Ascians seem to like manipulating people into doing their bidding.

For us, this would then create a plot whereby we have to find a way of getting the Ascian out of our lives and killing them is not the answer.

But in the mean time, I've got another villain to play around with, a disgruntled Ala Mhigan who is pissed that we're protecting 2 Garlean defectors responsible for the death of his family and he's been working with the Garleans to help them track them down. (As they are wanted by the Garleans - "enemy of my enemy is my friend")

Imo · **03-13-2015, 06:10 AM**

The way I see them, Ascians are pretty much the Organization XIII of FF14, only edgier. Playing one is the equivalent of creating an OC member of Organization XIII, and then playing them in a Kingdom Hearts RP. Only edgier.

In other words, please don't do that. People will laugh at you, and they will be right.

X'tai · **03-14-2015, 05:33 AM**

Thank you very much for your words and perspectives. I should have clarified that an alt is fine. I am one of those terrible people roleplaying a character that does not have the Echo but is chasing down a rumor that a group or organisation known as 'Ascians' had successfully given beastmen a version of the Echo. I certainly do not expect him to get what he is after. I would definitely be interested in talking to anyone who is interested OOCly to see what their thoughts and views are.
Don't worry! All points of view are being taken on board.

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