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RE: Age of Consent in Eorzea. |
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11-25-2014, 10:31 PM
(11-25-2014, 10:27 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote:
(11-25-2014, 10:07 PM)Alanth Wrote:
(11-25-2014, 07:45 PM)tfelver Wrote: Ok,so before I get to the question proper, please read this.

This is NOT meant to be a discussion on the ethical nature of relationships between different ages, we all know what's right and wrong in the real world, and its definitely safe to implement those values into Eorzea.

Thank you.

That being said, I'm curious what the role age would play in Eorzea as far relationships (sexual or otherwise) (for the sake of discussion we'll use the human aging convention).

We can look at history and get a huge amount of diversity on the subject.

On the first part, you have age of consent.  The only in game reference I could find to it was from "all about the haft"  where he rescues the miqo girls from sex slavery, but pushes them away because they are too young for the flames.

Now, since they were being sold into sex slavery, that tells me that they were at least of an age that it wouldn't be unheard of to be attracted to, but not necessarily considered appropriate since they were far enough from being adults that the Flames wouldnt' take them.  Problem is that age has a lot of variance as well, from 13-19 (Because too young for the military does not necessarily mean too young for adulthood).

Then you look at Longhaft himself.  He was in the mission that rescued them, which tells us he was an adult, and far enough to be trusted with this type of mission, which tells me he was around 26 at the youngest.

That a pretty wide age gap already, now if we assume the age of getting into the military and getting to that post is 21, that would put Longhaft anywhere between 28 and 34.  His relationship with them is not being hidden in the slightest so its safe to assume its considered alright.

So to the direct questions

1) What do you think the accepted age for starting sexual activity is in Eorzea?
2) Do you think this is mandated by any kind of law?
3) How large of a role do you think an age gap plays between two people together?

Any more thoughts on the subject or facts I missed are greatly appreciated.

There's really only one or two reasons to ask this question and all of them are gross.

By extension you are also gross.

Just gross dude.

More 16 year olds for me then

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RE: Age of Consent in Eorzea. |
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11-25-2014, 10:35 PM
(11-25-2014, 10:31 PM)Ameline Wrote:
(11-25-2014, 10:27 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote:
(11-25-2014, 10:07 PM)Alanth Wrote:
(11-25-2014, 07:45 PM)tfelver Wrote: Ok,so before I get to the question proper, please read this.

This is NOT meant to be a discussion on the ethical nature of relationships between different ages, we all know what's right and wrong in the real world, and its definitely safe to implement those values into Eorzea.

Thank you.

That being said, I'm curious what the role age would play in Eorzea as far relationships (sexual or otherwise) (for the sake of discussion we'll use the human aging convention).

We can look at history and get a huge amount of diversity on the subject.

On the first part, you have age of consent.  The only in game reference I could find to it was from "all about the haft"  where he rescues the miqo girls from sex slavery, but pushes them away because they are too young for the flames.

Now, since they were being sold into sex slavery, that tells me that they were at least of an age that it wouldn't be unheard of to be attracted to, but not necessarily considered appropriate since they were far enough from being adults that the Flames wouldnt' take them.  Problem is that age has a lot of variance as well, from 13-19 (Because too young for the military does not necessarily mean too young for adulthood).

Then you look at Longhaft himself.  He was in the mission that rescued them, which tells us he was an adult, and far enough to be trusted with this type of mission, which tells me he was around 26 at the youngest.

That a pretty wide age gap already, now if we assume the age of getting into the military and getting to that post is 21, that would put Longhaft anywhere between 28 and 34.  His relationship with them is not being hidden in the slightest so its safe to assume its considered alright.

So to the direct questions

1) What do you think the accepted age for starting sexual activity is in Eorzea?
2) Do you think this is mandated by any kind of law?
3) How large of a role do you think an age gap plays between two people together?

Any more thoughts on the subject or facts I missed are greatly appreciated.

There's really only one or two reasons to ask this question and all of them are gross.

By extension you are also gross.

Just gross dude.

More 16 year olds for me then

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RE: Age of Consent in Eorzea. |
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11-25-2014, 11:14 PM
All, please stay on topic. I'd really appreciate it.

Any other reasons one might have aside, there's an entirely legitimate reason this could be relevant: it could factor into the backstory of a character (especially tribal miqo'te, but potentially anyone).

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RE: Age of Consent in Eorzea. |
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11-28-2014, 12:30 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-28-2014, 12:31 PM by Kailia.)
Well for all intent and purpose, the game is in a medieval fantasy setting, with some nations already having advanced technology, while Eorzea is only barely scratching technology. Right now Limsa has the advanced guns, cannons and ships, their technology revolves around high sea's combat. Ul'dah has I believe trains, because of the various train stations in central thanalan. While the best Gridania has is water wheels. Only tech shared between the 3 nations is airships and aether travel.

So for the most part, the nations are still in high middle ages setting, as we've got gunpowder, explosives, and the beginnings of trains. And even during this settings, the age of consent was pretty low. In fact here's a little reference:

Quote:In the 12th century, Gratian, the influential founder of Canon law in medieval Europe, accepted age of puberty for marriage to be between 12 and 14 but acknowledged consent to be meaningful if the children were older than 7. There were authorities that said that consent could take place earlier. Marriage would then be valid as long as neither of the two parties annulled the marital agreement before reaching puberty, or if they had already consummated the marriage. It should be noted that Judges honored marriages based on mutual consent at ages younger than 7, in spite of what Gratian had said; there are recorded marriages of 2 and 3 year olds.[sup][3][/sup]
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent

So in Eorzea's case, Age 16 being the age of consent and when they are considered adults in some societies, would be fitting for the period Eorzea seems to revolve around. I know the Hipparion Tribe established on this very forum, that their age of adulthood is 16 assuming they pass the trials of adulthood they invented. My character is from that tribe, and is now an exile, but she did before she left, pass her trials. She is now 17, and considered an adult. In fact she's even engaged to be married, though IC she is waiting 5 days after her namesday to actually get married so she will be 18 when that day comes.

And it's already been established in game that Ul'dah and Sharlayan have a consent age of 16, so I think it is safe to say Gridania and Limsa would be the same. Especially considering their technology is still relatively behind Ul'dah's, with Limsa's gunpowder use being just a couple steps behind Ul'dah's engineering.

So I definitely think Eorzea wise, 16 is the right age group for consent.

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11-28-2014, 01:55 PM
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