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Caex Vaeriar · **05-28-2015, 05:54 PM**

Been struggling with this again. Feel like I've made a topic on this before.Â

I tend to find myself struggling to find RP outside the quicksands. That's not to say I have any particular dislike for the RP inside the quicksands - I actually find it quite fun. But sometimes I just wanna run into people in the world, and I've found this is often times near-impossible to do without scripting events heavily up front.Â

Then there's the people who go to the Tavern to create their own clique RP that seem to baffle me. You'll see this more often than not, where people go there specifically to meet someone to RP and seem to be moreso broadcasting "THIS IS MY PLOT ARC - but you can't join."Â

This is probably the part that frustrates me the most. Is seeing people and feeling like an outsider to the group - not having positive interactions with people. It's noticable the most iwth FC's and plotlines... people want things to go a /very rigid/, /very specific/ way that highlights their character. In that case, why not RP somewhere else...?Â

I dunno. I just tend to find myself for a loss on RP outside of events. Perhaps it's my own characters that create the issues. Perhaps I'm just not finding the right circles to RP with. Most of my RP is prompted - /l# "Anyone want to RP?" and then it's often one-on-one. I crave for some more open world / random RP's but even I'm at a loss for -how-.

Warren Castille · **05-28-2015, 06:16 PM**

I'm having trouble identifying the specific problem showcased here. Is it people roleplaying in public spaces, like the Quicksand, when they don't intend on bringing new people in? I think calling it "clique" RP is a bit inaccurate in that case. If you're truly a stranger and approach someone ICly and not OOCly, why should they trust you enough to bring you in? If they're outright ignoring you that's one thing, but denying an invitation isn't the same thing. Think about it this way: If me and some friends are at a bar talking about a hunting trip and someone we don't know is all "I love hunting! Take me with you!" we're not going to humor him.

If that's not the issue, is it "scripting" roleplay? I'm not sure I follow specifically what that means, but I think you mean the "Story begins at X location, Y events happen, Z conclusion scene." That's... usually how collaborative stories go. Lots of people roleplay with different philosophies, so it isn't like every set of people planning in public is going to say no. Communication is the key here. Here something that sounds neat? Ask OOCly if you can get tangled up. Usually this means arranging schedules to cooperate too, though, and that's just a byproduct of real life unfortunately.

I hope you find what you're looking for, though.

Hyrist · **05-28-2015, 06:16 PM**

What are your available playtimes, out of courosity's sake. Walk-up Rps can be somewhat difficult to come by as I've observed an activity lul outside of the typical static events going on. I'm personally attributing this to incoming Heavensward and people being busy trying to catch up with in-game goals before the expansion. Some of the more populated haunts have emptied out of late.

(Always check the Calendar to see if there's something going on that you can join.)

That said, if you post up your availability times, someone on here is bound to be friendly enough and match your times to start Rping with you.

Nicholas Graveshire · **05-28-2015, 06:31 PM**

I don't know if this is really the answer you're looking for, but perhaps build up your character's relationship with the people you meet in the Quicksand to do a personal arc yourself? Maybe suggest RPing again at another time but at a different place?

Arik · **05-28-2015, 06:52 PM**

I really enjoy occasionally doing 'plot' arc RPs in public spaces and taverns-- Mostly because I really love pulling new people in or seeing how others react and/or participate. (Should they choose to.) That said, Warren Castille has a good point-- Just because it's a public space doesn't necessarily mean that the people have any sort of obligation to involve others. It may just so happens that their Plot-RP makes the most sense to take place in the Quicksand.

It's difficult to find RP outside of taverns for a lot of reasons though, for sure. If you see someone with a RP tag sitting around in a tavern, you can be pretty confident that they are currently /seeking/ RP. If you see someone out in the world with a similar tag, it's a lot harder to know for sure whether they're open to it or otherwise doing something else.

I'd say just don't be afraid to hit people up OOC if you see them out and about and would like a bit of spontaneous, open-world RP. Just check to see if they'd be okay with your approaching them IC.

Chris Ganale · **05-28-2015, 07:28 PM**

Caex, you need a wiki for Caex so I can figure out who to bludgeon him with. I feel like your flower can hang out with Tahz and Karu. I really hope I don't wind up regretting that statement later.

Cato · **05-28-2015, 07:38 PM**

It's largely a matter of luck. What works for one role-play won't necessarily work for somebody else - which in turn ends up making threads like this slightly controversial. My advice - which is best taken with a pinch of salt - is to throw yourself out there and be reasonably aggressive in terms of finding role-play.

You'll struggle to find it from time to time. Some people may even let you down or brush you aside - but don't let that put you off. Once you succeed at carving a successful niche for yourself you can focus on gradually building up a reliable network of contacts to work with.

Don't just throw yourself at random events either - in my experience a lot of them are open to the public but end up revolving around the creator's inner circle or are far too bloated with participants to leave much of a lasting impression with one's character.

Kellach Woods · **05-28-2015, 07:43 PM**

(05-28-2015, 07:38 PM)Graeham Ridgefield Wrote: Don't just throw yourself at random events either - in my experience a lot of them are open to the public but end up revolving around the creator's inner circle or are far too bloated with participants to leave much of a lasting impression with one's character.

Ideally for these events, just go to take a gander, find the outlier if there is one, get with them.

Caex Vaeriar · **05-28-2015, 07:52 PM**

Quote:Caex, you need a wiki for Caex so I can figure out who to bludgeon him with. I feel like your flower can hang out with Tahz and Karu.Â I really hope I don't wind up regretting that statement later.

you're right as hell. I need to work on Caex's RPC some more. It's so incomplete compared to A'ry's. x.x I also need to learn how to draw or something to get some pictures up.Â

I do see alot of points, and I just can't help but wonder how much of it is common social anxiety, and how much of it is genuinly feeling unable to get any breakthrough RP with people. I've very often been sitting and RP'ing with someone, only to see some kind of 'thing' breakout nearby, whcih they quickly shuffled off after. To me that's extremely strange and it's just broadcasting - like I said. It's attention-ish.Â

Quote:Think about it this way: If me and some friends are at a bar talking about a hunting trip and someone we don't know is all "I love hunting! Take me with you!" we're not going to humor him.

But would you tell them that IC'ly? I think that's the most important thing. there's a number of times I've tried to make IC posts at people to try and garner some degree of attention, and don't even get a nod of the head back in turn. Being IC is the biggest thing for me in this capacity, and perhaps my reluctance to be OoC is the biggest issue I have (The only time I go OoC is when I have -major- issues with people.)Â

Quote:"Story begins at X location, Y events happen, Z conclusion scene."

It's moreso that these events that I see are "Story begins at X location With A group, Y events happen with B group, and Z conclusion with C group" - the RP isn't really 'open' at all, and most people seem very preoccupied with their own stories to try and mix and intertwine stories.Â

Mind you, my major weakness is that I'm just acting out a character, and I can't write plots for shit. Tongue

Â So perhaps I'm just not seeing good enough ways -to get in-.Â

Quote:Just because it's a public space doesn't necessarily mean that the people have any sort of obligation to involve others.

Oh, definitely not saying to be forced to include people. But I do think people should show consideration when choosing to RP in certain spots of high density like the Quicksand. If you want an inclusive event, do it in party at that point and disable your nearby text, or do it on the forums/in skype. But if you're gonna do an RP and have things drawing attention to yourself, what's the point of doing it there? It just feels inconsiderate at that point.Â

I do love when people clearly are trying to involve those around them - that's a great RP'er in my book.Â

Quote:What are your available playtimes, out of courosity's sake.

I mostly try to RP in the afternoons since that's the usual "Peak" time.Â

Reshie · **05-28-2015, 09:21 PM**

Our FC has an inn and tavern that usually has people in it RPing. We're open to the public so you can stop by and see who is around.Â

Wanderer's Lantern
Lavender Beds
Ward 1
Plot 38

We're also hosting Clio's drinking contest tomorrow. Feel free to stop by and say hi! Never know who you'll click with. Big Grin

Arik · **05-28-2015, 10:09 PM**

(05-28-2015, 07:52 PM)Caex Vaeriar Wrote:
Quote:Just because it's a public space doesn't necessarily mean that the people have any sort of obligation to involve others.

Oh, definitely not saying to be forced to include people. But I do think people should show consideration when choosing to RP in certain spots of high density like the Quicksand. If you want an inclusive event, do it in party at that point and disable your nearby text, or do it on the forums/in skype. But if you're gonna do an RP and have things drawing attention to yourself, what's the point of doing it there? It just feels inconsiderate at that point.Â

I do love when people clearly are trying to involve those around them - that's a great RP'er in my book.Â

Yeah, I'd tend to agree to a certain point there in that, if they really don't want outside involvement, to take it to a private channel (partially so they're chat isn't clogging up the channel for others, too.) I suppose I can't speak much to what others have in mind there because, like I said, I really like doing plot things in public spaces if it's appropriate to whatever's going on... Specifically to involve other people. If it isn't realistic to the situation or to the choices of my character though, I'll do it somewhere else.

Even from the perspective of 'random person walks up and starts involving themselves in a group's conversation'-- seen as a favorable tendency or not, that *does* happen in bars all the time and is part of the organic nature of the place. Of course, if a character does that (interjecting themselves into a scene), it is good to keep in mind that those they're walking up to might not, ICly, receive them well, just like in RL.

Personally, I only really label the RPers themselves as "rude" at that point if they just straight up ignoreÂ the person trying to get involved and don't bother to respond to them. If the *character* is rude and brushes me off, then that's one thing, because I can't fault them if that's IC for them. If they straight up don't respond to me though, that's another story, and is clearly the choice of the RPer. (Or otherwise a case of them just not noticing my post, of course!)

Boo the Hamster · **05-29-2015, 05:55 PM**

(05-28-2015, 07:52 PM)Caex Vaeriar Wrote: Mind you, my major weakness is that I'm just acting out a character, and I can't write plots for shit. Â So perhaps I'm just not seeing good enough ways -to get in-.

I had a similar problem that you had a while ago.Â My character is essentially a secondary due to his position as a retainer, and I refused to look for RP because of it (I'm not saying this is what you do, but this is a common problem when people do not look for RP outside of their comfort zone).Â You know what the person that had the master position over my character did?Â They threw me out of their RP for 4-8 months to try and find my own place in the RP setting outside of the master/servant relation.

This is the point where you need to make connections, set up meets with people whether through events or characters you find interesting OOC.Â I don't get tons of RP, but I do get RP that I enjoy.Â Best thing you can do is send tells to people you think would make good RP between yours and their character OOC.Â In any RP you participate in, -you- have to make the push to get in.Â If you're not going to do it, then don't expect to get any RP.

Seriphyn · **05-30-2015, 01:42 AM**

After one and a half months of being unable to really engage with the NA evening crowd because of second shift, I was finally able to actually roleplay after all I did was just instigate on the forums.

I was drowning in roleplay. Non-stop, not with the same characters. And this is after creating a lot of drama on the forums. I was still able to find roleplay.

I'm essentially saying there's no excuse. If I can do it, anyone can.

C'kayah Polaali · **05-30-2015, 12:10 PM**

I habitually do this thing where I'll periodically go to the QS (or some other place with a lot of people) and I'll examine folks who are alone yet look like roleplayers. People walking, people dressed in something that works, etc. If they have any sort of RPish search info, I'll send them a /tell saying hi and asking what sort of RP they like. I'd say I end up getting in a conversation with about half of those people about RP, and I'll end up RPing with about a quarter of those people.

RP is out there. There are RPers just waiting to RP with you!

God. Now I want to start making "Church of the Subgenius" style pamphlets: "Roleplay with a REAL person or triple your ego back!

Finding RP outside the Quciksands, or with more people in g eneral?

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