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FreelanceWizard · **06-28-2014, 01:32 PM**

*keeps the Magic Admin Hat on*

(06-28-2014, 12:49 PM)ArmachiA Wrote: However, if you feel like the RPC is negative at all to Gilgamesh and it's players, please let one of the higher ups know. If you see posts that make it seem like Balmung players don't want you here, let someone know! Go now! Look back for posts that made you think that and show a mod! They can't fix what they don't know is a problem. This website is for both communities and if anyone on the RPC is making you Gilgameshers feel unwelcome, then we should strive to fix it.

Just a note on this: if someone is feeling that there was bias or an attempt to make people feel unwelcome with my proposal to merge the Events and Directory forums for the two servers, that wasn't at all my intention. I just figured that, with our thread tag system, we could reduce the number of forums while still letting people quickly filter posts by server, and that it'd help remove barriers (since we'd all be One Big Community). However, the poll indicated that the majority of voters would prefer to keep the forums separate, so that's what I did. I certainly hope no one took offense at the proposal or how the poll turned out, and if they did, I apologize. Sad

That said, if you feel that there are posts that express an anti-Gilgamesh bias (or an anti-Balmung bias), feel free to report them and we'll review. To be honest, I suspect the feeling among some Gilgamesh RPers is historical and rumour based, and perhaps related to the fact that all of the forum staff play on Balmung. There's nothing I can do about either of these other than to say that we support RP on both servers, that Gilgamesh players are welcome here, and that there's no Secret RPC Cabal trying to steal players for Balmung or anything like that. (Well, maybe there is, but I'm Not An RP Event and Not A Big Name, so I don't get invited to those meetings. I'm definitely not one of the Cool Kids in the Balmung RP Scene.)

As a final note, please, please cool down on the personal attacks. It's been so long since I had to lock a thread. Cry

Also, TheLastCandle speaks the truth. Mysterium, for instance, grows slowly because our concept is so specific. Many characters don't fit.

Saefinn · **06-28-2014, 01:39 PM**

Quote: If you're calling out in the Coalition OOC A or whathaveyou you are pretty much guaranteed no response. I left those ages ago because they were less than promising but I feel poorly for people still in there. If those hubs are all you see as an RPer that is a bleak outlook indeed.

I pretty much dropped from most of these, they're a bit outdated. If you haven't already, may be worth looking up Adventurer's Guild, granted it's not a hotbed of conversation most of the time, but it has more active players to reach out to. We maintained our RP contacts with our own OOC LS, we invited people as we went along and as it's our FC's primary chat channel it meant a lot more communication for RP. Maybe worth hooking up with other FC's in their OOC LS groups - or at least, linkshell capacity permitting.

Quote:To be honest, I've got not one single clue what your FC is either. Funny how that works! It tends to be hard to keep track of the small, minor upstart Companies when as a whole, the community is more interested in the fast reward and fix of jumping ship, then putting work into the issues and problems that need work.

You are pretty presumptuous, you admit you know nothing about us, yet you're quick to assume. I've not made any assumptions about you or your FC. We have supported the Gilgamesh community since its conception, we were one of the groups who helped get this community get off the ground - though we've always been small and though we've not necessarily had as much gravity as some groups, we've stuck through the good and the bad. We've pushed through issues and tried to resolve them. Heck, there were issues going on for the passed 2 months that have demanded our attention and we have pushed through them trying our best to resolve them and we resolved most of them.

But in the end we have decided we'd do what is best for *us*. You may not like it, but we're here to have fun and trying to *fix* things can take a toll after a while, and I'm the sort of FC leader to support my own members and they will always come first. If this points us in the direction of Balmung, so be it. If my members decide Balmung isn't what it's cracked up to be, I will support any move back to Gilgamesh - heck, we've prepared for such a contingency. As they say, "the grass is always greener".

All I've seen you do is complain about what other people do. If you feel so strongly about this, rather than complain about what we're doing, perhaps you could make a more constructive turn and talk about what Gilgamesh's existing community can do support itself? What can you do for the community? Perhaps offer the olive branch, I can see a few FC leaders posting in this thread, this would be the perfect opportunity to do that. Perhaps show Parker, who is concerned about the community, that it is not dead and there's still opportunities for him and his FC.

Despite me jumping ship, I still have a lot of positive things to say about the Gilgamesh community and I do hope it continues to be great. But, chances are, we'll no longer be a part of it, but what we do is our prerogative.

Quote:From the way a lot of people here have been talking.. I'm surprised that the suggestion to petition Square to shut down Gilgamesh hasn't popped up yet. I mean why not?... according to everyone who jumped ship, the community is dead over here and not worth the effort or work to try and salvage or fix!

That is a ridiculous strawman. People seem to take the 'small country town' thing as derogative, though it was coined by somebody still within the community and not at all intended to be derogative. Heck, I explained my interpretation of it.

Considering I've not said Gilgamesh is dead and have in fact said on more than one occasion that it is NOT dead, I have said it is not what it once was...and that's an accurate summation, because it has been almost a year since its conception many have come and many have gone. If anything, it is expected of any community, even our own FC, our FC is different to what it was 9 months ago, because our membership 9 months ago was different.

*shrugs* Take what you will, but I sincerely think you've got the wrong end of the stick.

Ambrosa · **06-28-2014, 04:08 PM**

(06-28-2014, 01:39 PM)Saefinn Wrote: You are pretty presumptuous, you admit you know nothing about us, yet you're quick to assume.

I'll make this my last post, as I grow weary of this net fight... or what every you desire to call it.

First off.Â I am not making any assumptions.Â I was simply restating something that was previously said.. that Wayward and Drift were having Drama issues.Â You now claim that this is wrong.Â Fine.Â Notice I have not named you, your company or anyone else BY NAME beyond that first time.Â This is not being presumptuous.. It is the brutal honest truth as I view it.Â End of that discussion!

As for your nicer ways to say it comment... You want a sugar coated lie, go somewhere more suiting to your needs.Â You want the brutal honest truth, then feel free to continue.Â What you read and what you saw from me was the brutal honest truth.Â What you took from it, was your own point of view, not mine.Â You took my honesty as an attack and have since lashed out in return.Â That was not my doing.. that was yours.
I will admit that my words were harsh.Â I will also admit that it was the BRUTAL HONEST TRUTH.Â Not a sugar coated lie.Â Not the softened beat around the bush attempt to 'be nice'.Â It was the truth.Â No hiding it, no shying away from it, just the truth!

As for solutions.Â I could list hundreds.Â Would it make a difference given the scale of the exodus that has happened in recent months?Â Not one little bit.Â I have personally been attempting what I thought was a solution, by creating and trying to recruit for a RP FC.Â And yet, where has that gotten me?Â Frustrated and driven to the point of saying to hell with RP, to hell with anything, I'm just going to do what I do, and everyone else can rot so far as I am concerned.

You want to talk about solutions... What problem could possibility have the solution of abandoning a server?Â I can't think of a single one.Â Not one!

Grief.Â Black list and GM tickets.Â Solved!
Drama.Â Black list, or grow up and deal with it as an adult.Â Solved!

The other server has a better community.Â Â Not a problem, an excuse for being to lazy to work on the server community where you are.

Friends on another server.Â Why did you roll on a different server to start with?Â It's called alts.Â I have had dozens if not hundreds of them over the games I've played.Â Again, an excuse, not a reason.

Seriously, I can't think of a single REASON to abandon a server for another.Â I can think of hundreds of excuses.. but I had figured we were all past such things.

Again, you can hate on me all you want for being honest and truthful.Â That doesn't change the fact that I was honest, and truthful... oh.. and giving my opinion.

ArmachiA · **06-28-2014, 04:19 PM**

I can see why no one wants to be in your guild.

FreelanceWizard · **06-28-2014, 04:19 PM**

Okay, so... this is kind of devolving into a "my server, right or wrong" kind of thing, and as I said, I'm not really keen on letting that continue.

I think it's safe to say this thread has run its course, so I'm going to close it before it gets any more acrimonious. If anyone wants to discuss ways to improve RP on either server, RP Discussion is over thataway.

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