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2.5 SPOILER THREAD (Do not enter unless you have completed 2.5 Story!) |
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01-23-2015, 10:02 AM
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01-23-2015, 10:39 AM
2.5.1 in a nutshell:Â Â "Dragons Dragons DRAGONS!!! . . . followed by insane 1000 year old warlock wizard guys."
Best thing in 2.5 was the short hair that got added. This does bring up a legitimate confusing point though. When Misgra. . . (cant spell that dead dragons name, bleh) took away the WoL's blessing, he mentioned quite a few times that a new deal was struck between him and the warrior of light. I have a theory that in the place of the Blessing of light, the WoL is now protected by the dead dragon dude. This however, doesn't have any evidence to hold ground on and is just a theory. That aside though, I really like what they did making him a minion/companion of sorts that made a reoccurring appearance. It added alot more life to the MSQ for me. Ive got a feeling in my gut the dead Dragon dude is going to hang around the WoL for much of 3.0. Would actually be really cool if you think about it. |
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01-23-2015, 10:53 AM
Sad I can't even do KoTL dungeon because this que is killing me.
Kevin Gates - Told Me
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01-23-2015, 10:59 AM
(01-23-2015, 10:02 AM)Melodia Wrote:(01-23-2015, 03:57 AM)Lilithium Wrote: Also, just realized Hildy and co. are like a parody to Sherlock. For example, this famous little tidbit:You like Sherlock? You just became my favorite person. Who doesn't like Sherlock? Also, Sherlock >>>>>>> Elementary Yvelont Navarre
Parn Paparn IC Blog for Yvelont: http://never-your-pawn.tumblr.com OOC Blog: http://navarre-again.tumblr.com |
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01-23-2015, 11:17 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-23-2015, 11:21 AM by Telluride.)
(01-23-2015, 10:46 AM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote: I still just think they made her like that so we'd feel it when she died. There's a wrestling term for what SE used Moenbryda for, then: "Cheap Heat." Also, to invoke wrestling terms, Moenbryda jobbed for Minfilia. At this point, I think we could use a program/flowchart to help us figure out who will and wont' be killed in the MSQ: x=charname Set A = "safegroup" Set B= "disposable" If Wind-Up [x] exists, add x : Set A If attribute [x] = annoying, add x : Set A Else add x : Set B "But in the laugh there was another voice. A clearer laugh, an ironic laugh. A laugh which laughs because it chooses not to weep."
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01-23-2015, 11:44 AM
Minfillia is HHH y'all
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01-23-2015, 11:52 AM
Personally I'm pretty blah about almost every one of the Scions. Just not feeling it. Never really had, even in the beginning when I started out this game with Y'sh.
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01-23-2015, 12:46 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-23-2015, 12:47 PM by Telluride.)
On some of Sounssy's points (which are ever well-informed, reasonable and always worth reading)...
Poor writing and character development in the past do not mean that any character should ever be doomed to poor development forever. If either Yda or Papalymo WERE killed or at least changed, the development for the other would be drastically increased. Neither of them in the FULL LENGTH of the MSQ has been as well developed as Moenbryda was in her brief stint, so I discount all value of them as well-established characters except by default. Frankly, I believe that the cheap tactic of killing Moony to develop Urianger would have been ten times more useful for the Yda/Pap pairing. At least split them up for a while and force them to develop just like, to pick a good example from Sounssy, Merry and Pippin, who became whole and better people when they weren't sure if the other survived, and thus had to make their own ways. I want to like Yda... I want to... but she's only interesting when she's punching things. Thancred would be better served by having him oust Mini as the Scions leader, and it would even be natural. What little we get from the MSQ is that Thancred was trying his best to become the next Lousioix, and working himself near to death (usually off screen and informed rather than stated, of course) to do it. This is complicated when Moenbryda shows up and we're told that she's pretty much the real heiress to Louisoix's abilities...uh, whoops. And, uh, whoops again, she's gone. Get Mini out of the boss' chair, put Thancred there, and let his performance anxiety and concern over his past failure be natural and realistic character angles for him, more MORE than they are for Mini, who just doesn't DO ANYTHING. To be honest, I'd say Y'shtola is just fine. She doesn't get tons of screen time, but in what she gets, she is largely competent, she knows her job and her role, and she's not afraid of combat even though she knows that a strategic withdrawal is sometimes better than a fight. Give her a little more story, let her play herself up like she does for the Titan and Limsa lvl5 story quests, and she's as solid as the Scions can be. "But in the laugh there was another voice. A clearer laugh, an ironic laugh. A laugh which laughs because it chooses not to weep."
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01-23-2015, 01:02 PM
Thancred would need to mature if he were to take Minfilia's place in my opinion. His whole 'hit on anything with a pair of breasts' angle became stale rather quickly. I'd find him a lot more interesting if the whole possession thing had left him physically and emotionally scarred...but as it stands it just seems like it's been cast aside.
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01-23-2015, 01:25 PM
If it gets used as part of a greater narrative as mentioned? More power to them for not giving us a payoff right away. If this leads to Minf womaning up and realizing that inaction loses lives, it's a great plot device.
Let me ask you, though, Final Fantasy faithful: How many late-arriving NPCs who seemingly are more competent than your current party survive, again? I can think of more than a few examples where we've met someone who'd be a GREAT addition to our group who... doesn't last more than a chapter or three. |
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