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Valtiere · **06-18-2015, 04:00 PM**

(06-18-2015, 02:46 PM)Meena Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 02:23 PM)Talandir Valenfort Wrote: I had a feeling they were going to wait for the servers to go down before giving us this stuff. Mass name-change incoming...

Now that I've seen the names I think I might end up going with a Xaela after all. I speak no Japanese and those Raen conventions seem daunting to say the least; even after looking at the resources people have posted here and in another thread it makes my head spin. Plus I think I like the sound of the Himaa tribe... I might go with that.
The names are really easy to do for Rean, as a Japanese classics major, maybe I can help you? I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Edo and Heian Japanese!

Thank you for offering but I am going to go with a Xaela after all. The more I think about it the more I like the alternative concept I have for him, so Xaela it is. Thank you though. Smile

Izayoi · **06-18-2015, 04:09 PM**

(06-18-2015, 02:46 PM)Meena Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 02:23 PM)Talandir Valenfort Wrote: I had a feeling they were going to wait for the servers to go down before giving us this stuff. Mass name-change incoming...

Now that I've seen the names I think I might end up going with a Xaela after all. I speak no Japanese and those Raen conventions seem daunting to say the least; even after looking at the resources people have posted here and in another thread it makes my head spin. Plus I think I like the sound of the Himaa tribe... I might go with that.
The names are really easy to do for Rean, as a Japanese classics major, maybe I can help you? I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Edo and Heian Japanese!

Well, my Raen could use some help I think, specially last name wise Wink

shotgunbadger · **06-18-2015, 04:54 PM**

I was torn between making my alt an Au Ra or a Roe, and leaning to Roe because, hey, I wanted to stand out from the scaly horde.

But...fuuuuck, Mongolian influences, diverse tribes (even if some are kinda lame, oh neat you make sleds, that is a very distinct and rare feature indeed...), and generally neat concepts behind them...yea probably gonna go there.

Leaning to Qalli tribe, anyone else gonna be a songbird?

It's that or Ura or Kagon, all three of those are very interesting to me.

Akini · **06-18-2015, 05:35 PM**

(06-18-2015, 04:09 PM)Izayoi Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 02:46 PM)Meena Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 02:23 PM)Talandir Valenfort Wrote: I had a feeling they were going to wait for the servers to go down before giving us this stuff. Mass name-change incoming...

Now that I've seen the names I think I might end up going with a Xaela after all. I speak no Japanese and those Raen conventions seem daunting to say the least; even after looking at the resources people have posted here and in another thread it makes my head spin. Plus I think I like the sound of the Himaa tribe... I might go with that.
The names are really easy to do for Rean, as a Japanese classics major, maybe I can help you? I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Edo and Heian Japanese!

Well, my Raen could use some help I think, specially last name wise

Same here. I have a lady Raen and I have no idea where to begin.

She is going to be very pale skinned with black hair and black eyes with a bright red ring around them so I was wanting to go with something that had black and or red things in it.

Viviana · **06-18-2015, 06:25 PM**

(06-18-2015, 02:46 PM)Meena Wrote: The names are really easy to do for Rean, as a Japanese classics major, maybe I can help you? I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Edo and Heian Japanese!

So.. would Sayuri actually work as a name? I'm not seeing it on any of the old lists :\Â

Specifically ifÂ æ—© Â or Â å° Â were Kanji used back then.

Zhavi · **06-18-2015, 06:31 PM**

(06-18-2015, 04:54 PM)shotgunbadger Wrote: I was torn between making my alt an Au Ra or a Roe, and leaning to Roe because, hey, I wanted to stand out from the scaly horde.

But...fuuuuck, Mongolian influences, diverse tribes (even if some are kinda lame, oh neat you make sleds, that is a very distinct and rare feature indeed...), and generally neat concepts behind them...yea probably gonna go there.

Leaning to Qalli tribe, anyone else gonna be a songbird?

It's that or Ura or Kagon, all three of those are very interesting to me.

As a tidbit on its lonesome, yes, it does seem pretty lame -- but to me it's indicative of, say, the Chauchu of Russia (who also use sleds to transport their stuff during yearly moves), who are a very badass and tough lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFWj0jEaJ5w

:3

C'io Behkt · **06-18-2015, 07:56 PM**

(06-18-2015, 02:54 PM)Meena Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 02:23 PM)C Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 01:28 PM)Geisterfuchs Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 01:19 PM)C Wrote: Where was this gorgeous list of diversity when they were making the Miqo'te?

I am crying from joy and jealousy, oh my goodness. DIVERSITYYY

I prefer the Miqo ones. Why? Less specific. More things you can just make up.

However, what I love most is that this is a list of tribal concepts which are not so heavily focused on sexual or gender politics. The emphasis on mating that so many miqo'te bring to the game because of the lore is very off-putting to me.

Sadly, this would still be the case, the Devs stated that they werent changing lore regarding the gender ratio, in any civilisation if there are less of one gender than anothe genetically, group marriages happen to sustain population. Population and fertility isÂ amassive part of community. Empires fall without succession even in the lower classes.

I wish people would stop seeing that as a negative thing, it really isnt. You can be creative with it.

And I have been. I've seen other efforts too to bring a sense of diversity like the Xaela have to the Miqo'te tribes, but because the main thrust of the lore is sex-based, most people play it that way (partly because it is safe and partly because of other reasons), whereas with the Xaela, there is so much more to latch on to to deflect that -- and after 51 beautiful examples, an open license to "create anything." I would have loved even just a quarter of those 51 examples to have modeled possibilities back when our lore first emerged.

It's an old topic and I know I won't change opinions about it now. I couldn't in the advent of 2.0, and I don't expect to with 3.0. My focus now is on the beauty of the Xaela tribal lore, and the hope that these will serve to model to the remaining miqo'te the world of possibility open to them outside of mating practices.

Fox · **06-18-2015, 08:02 PM**

(06-18-2015, 07:56 PM)Cio Behkt Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 02:54 PM)Meena Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 02:23 PM)C Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 01:28 PM)Geisterfuchs Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 01:19 PM)C Wrote: Where was this gorgeous list of diversity when they were making the Miqo'te?

I am crying from joy and jealousy, oh my goodness. DIVERSITYYY

I prefer the Miqo ones. Why? Less specific. More things you can just make up.

However, what I love most is that this is a list of tribal concepts which are not so heavily focused on sexual or gender politics. The emphasis on mating that so many miqo'te bring to the game because of the lore is very off-putting to me.

Sadly, this would still be the case, the Devs stated that they werent changing lore regarding the gender ratio, in any civilisation if there are less of one gender than anothe genetically, group marriages happen to sustain population. Population and fertility isÂ amassive part of community. Empires fall without succession even in the lower classes.

I wish people would stop seeing that as a negative thing, it really isnt. You can be creative with it.

And I have been. I've seen other efforts too to bring a sense of diversity like the Xaela have to the Miqo'te tribes, but because the main thrust of the lore is sex-based, most people play it that way (partly because it is safe and partly because of other reasons), whereas with the Xaela, there is so much more to latch on to to deflect that -- and after 51 beautiful examples, an open license to "create anything." I would have loved even just a quarter of those 51 examples to have modeled possibilities back when our lore first emerged.

It's an old topic and I know I won't change opinions about it now. I couldn't in the advent of 2.0, and I don't expect to with 3.0. My focus now is on the beauty of the Xaela tribal lore, and the hope that these will serve to model to the remaining miqo'te the world of possibility open to them outside of mating practices.

I've never rped the "sexy times" with my miqo'te and likely never will. I've played miqo'te since 2.0 and I played them at 1.0 for a short time before I stopped. It's not something that interests me. So sex is not for everyone. It is not the 'main thrust of the lore' for everyone who plays miqo'te, there's more to it than that.

This as an aside; back on topic I am looking forward to the au ra and I plan on rping my character as much as I have with my miqo'te. I think they're both very interesting races and interesting lore for each. I especially enjoy the Xaela stuff. Raen naming conventions are going to be difficult for me.

Akini · **06-18-2015, 08:16 PM**

Does any one know how Raen surnames work? Are they the same as the first names and Yugri is a strange case since she has English words for her's?

allgivenover · **06-18-2015, 09:43 PM**

(06-18-2015, 07:56 PM)C Wrote: It's an old topic and I know I won't change opinions about it now. I couldn't in the advent of 2.0, and I don't expect to with 3.0. My focus now is on the beauty of the Xaela tribal lore, and the hope that these will serve to model to the remaining miqo'te the world of possibility open to them outside of mating practices.

Well, we all wish for impossibly things now and then.

allgivenover · **06-18-2015, 09:50 PM**

Raen female naming tip:

Try not to use the -ko ending for your character's name unless you absolutely must. Raen names are 16th-18th century, and -ko didn't come into common use before the 20th. In fact it was a MALE name ending before it switched genders.

Also, there will be a million -ko's, so consider not going for it.

Names ending in the following are a not-entirely-foolproof-but-good-thing-to-look-out-for:

-ri
-ne
-yo
-ya

Qadan · **06-18-2015, 10:13 PM**

Something just occurred to me. Should we assume that the t in "hotgo" is a hard t? or is it potentially silent?

Kismet · **06-18-2015, 10:36 PM**

Along a similar strain to Qadan's inquiry, I'm not confident at all in my pronunciations of a majority of the Xaela tribe names... or Mongolian in general. Any tips or dummy guides for derps like me are highly welcome and appreciated! XD

CallmeYahweh · **06-18-2015, 10:39 PM**

I found a few hints at their pronunciation while looking around for names. The best was from a travel guide website:

"Knowing how to pronounce the names of Mongolians you meet will help you make friends and get people's attention.

When saying any Mongolian word, pronounce the vowels harshly. The vowels sound more like English lower-case than capital letter equivalents. For example, the drink 'cola'is pronounced as 'collar'.

Pronounce names any other way and no one will understand."

Source

Sin · **06-18-2015, 11:52 PM**

(06-18-2015, 06:31 PM)Zhavi Wrote: As a tidbit on its lonesome, yes, it does seem pretty lame -- but to me it's indicative of, say, the Chauchu of Russia (who also use sleds to transport their stuff during yearly moves), who are a very badass and tough lot.
:3

This. I think everyone saying that some of the tidbits are sort of out of left field should really think about the greater implication that the practice has on the clan. For example, I saw someone say that the one where they carry their elders on their back was small and uninteresting. What!? That's representative of huge reverence for elders and wisdom. That's super interesting. They probably have rituals and traditions to honor their elders and a million other things if you think about it.

(06-18-2015, 07:56 PM)C Wrote:
(06-18-2015, 02:54 PM)Meena Wrote: Sadly, this would still be the case, the Devs stated that they werent changing lore regarding the gender ratio, in any civilisation if there are less of one gender than anothe genetically, group marriages happen to sustain population. Population and fertility isÂ amassive part of community. Empires fall without succession even in the lower classes.

I wish people would stop seeing that as a negative thing, it really isnt. You can be creative with it.

And I have been. I've seen other efforts too to bring a sense of diversity like the Xaela have to the Miqo'te tribes, but because the main thrust of the lore is sex-based, most people play it that way (partly because it is safe and partly because of other reasons), whereas with the Xaela, there is so much more to latch on to to deflect that -- and after 51 beautiful examples, an open license to "create anything." I would have loved even just a quarter of those 51 examples to have modeled possibilities back when our lore first emerged.

It's an old topic and I know I won't change opinions about it now. I couldn't in the advent of 2.0, and I don't expect to with 3.0. My focus now is on the beauty of the Xaela tribal lore, and the hope that these will serve to model to the remaining miqo'te the world of possibility open to them outside of mating practices.

Yes, yes. As I was reading these tribes I sort of felt vindicated in my choice to have my character's Ba' Miqo'te tribe have its own tribal gods, believes, customs, and traditions. I was reading Xaela tribes, and getting excited for them, but in the back of my mind I was saying... Yes! SE recognizes that different tribes will have different ways of going about things!

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