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Sierra Nazrin · **09-03-2015, 04:03 PM**

Hiya! Sierra here with some.. sad humor.

Alright so, lets.. talk about something here, RNG is nice to use for a healer at times ill give you that. However, i seem to see alot of people having issues pulling the "Balance" card from their deck.Â

oddly enough, i seem to have the opposite issue. every single card i draw is the "Balance" card and nothing more, either its a stroke of luck or i am cursed for never seeming to be able to draw the card required to get the AOE buff.

I think SE needs to uh.. Balance, the card deck for the astrologian.

ZacharyVolfire · **09-03-2015, 04:07 PM**

New RP character The AST that can never draw anything but balance.

Sierra Nazrin · **09-03-2015, 04:09 PM**

(09-03-2015, 04:07 PM)ZacharyVolfire Wrote: New RP character The AST that can never draw anything but balance.

Lol best character idea ever.

LiadansWhisper · **09-03-2015, 04:44 PM**

I have a habit of drawing nothing but Spire or nothing but Ewer repeatedly.Â Dodgy

Ninina Nina · **09-03-2015, 07:17 PM**

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Only drawing The Balance, you say?

Ilwe'ran · **09-03-2015, 07:31 PM**

More than an issue with the cards themselves, I have an issue with shuffle to the point I think they should change the action help for this :

Shuffle : "Return the currently drawn arcanum to your deck and draw the same."

LiadansWhisper · **09-03-2015, 07:49 PM**

(09-03-2015, 07:31 PM)Ilwe Wrote: More than an issue with the cards themselves, I have an issue with shuffle to the point I think they should change the action help for this :

Shuffle : "Return the currently drawn arcanum to your deck and draw the same."

YES. Â That's what it does at least 75-80% of the time for me. Â It's SO frustrating.

Glacirus · **09-03-2015, 09:24 PM**

I get the same issues where I always seem to draw Spear or Spire, at times where no one needs or can even use them. Spear especially...we don't need cooldown reduction that often game, plz gimme Bole or something.

Shuffle is a whole different can of worms I won't even touch...I'd rather toss a card on someone who doesn't necessarily need it than trigger another cooldown for the same/equally useless card.

Gegenji · **09-04-2015, 07:48 AM**

(09-03-2015, 07:49 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:
(09-03-2015, 07:31 PM)Ilwe Wrote: More than an issue with the cards themselves, I have an issue with shuffle to the point I think they should change the action help for this :

Shuffle : "Return the currently drawn arcanum to your deck and draw the same."

YES. Â That's what it does at least 75-80% of the time for me. Â It's SO frustrating.

Seriously. I think I've forgotten half the time it's there because I'll Shuffle away a card I don't need for the exact same card. Thanks for that, SE. My RNG luck is bad enough with crafting, let's just apply that entirely to a mechanic of a class.

... In all seriousness, though, I have a lot of fun with the Astrologian. But I should probably figure out what cards should go on who at some point. I mean, most are obvious enough to figure out - Bole, Ewer, Spire, Balance - but the Arrow and Spear? I usually just end up Royal Roading or Shuffling them for something I know how to use. Blush

Fox · **09-04-2015, 07:59 AM**

I thought they worked on this with one of the former patches, is it still RNGing badly? I don't really play AST; but I have friends who do. This is disappointing to hear if they've said they fixed it and it not being really fixed.

Sierra Nazrin · **09-04-2015, 08:43 AM**

(09-04-2015, 07:59 AM)Foxberry Wrote: I thought they worked on this with one of the former patches, is it still RNGing badly? I don't really play AST; but I have friends who do. This is disappointing to hear if they've said they fixed it and it not being really fixed.

Well yeah.. RNG involved in a healer class is a bit of a pain, there are other ways it could have been done. though as i stated, some RNG is fine. just this personally feels rediculas.

Fox · **09-04-2015, 08:45 AM**

(09-04-2015, 08:43 AM)Sierra Nulah Wrote:
(09-04-2015, 07:59 AM)Foxberry Wrote: I thought they worked on this with one of the former patches, is it still RNGing badly? I don't really play AST; but I have friends who do. This is disappointing to hear if they've said they fixed it and it not being really fixed.
Well yeah.. RNG involved in a healer class is a bit of a pain, there are other ways it could have been done. though as i stated, some RNG is fine. just this personally feels rediculas.

That's not... really what I asked? I main a WHM. I'm aware of RNG with healing classes as a whole.
What I was asking was; if the RNG was still pretty wonky on AST, as live-letters and patches were mentioned to have helped some; in comparison to what the RNG problems were before.

Aris · **09-04-2015, 09:00 AM**

(09-04-2015, 07:48 AM)Gegenji Wrote:
(09-03-2015, 07:49 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:
(09-03-2015, 07:31 PM)Ilwe Wrote: More than an issue with the cards themselves, I have an issue with shuffle to the point I think they should change the action help for this :

Shuffle : "Return the currently drawn arcanum to your deck and draw the same."

YES. Â That's what it does at least 75-80% of the time for me. Â It's SO frustrating.

Seriously. I think I've forgotten half the time it's there because I'll Shuffle away a card I don't need for the exact same card. Thanks for that, SE. My RNG luck is bad enough with crafting, let's just apply that entirely to a mechanic of a class.

... In all seriousness, though, I have a lot of fun with the Astrologian. But I should probably figure out what cards should go on who at some point. I mean, most are obvious enough to figure out - Bole, Ewer, Spire, Balance - but the Arrow and Spear? I usually just end up Royal Roading or Shuffling them for something I know how to use.

Spear reduces ability cooldowns, and you need to use it before an ability is used for it to be under effect of the card. I think pretty much all classes benefit from it, but it's difficult to use to maximum effect in a PUG (but then again I don't really pay attention to what others are doing in dungeons if things are going well Tongue

). It could be especially effective in raiding though.
Some examples of using it would be: giving it to a BRD before they pop their buffs, a PLD before Hallowed Ground, or saving it for yourself for Essential Dignity, Lightspeed, Luminiferous Aether, etc.

Arrow increases skill, spell and auto attack speed, so best on DPS. I've read lots of different arguements on why you should give it to certain classes, so can't be any more specific right now.Â Blush

As a caster it's awesome on speed runs, but then it seems like all classes have quite good AOE output now so I guess you can't go wrong? ^^;

Berrod Armstrong · **09-04-2015, 09:06 AM**

I dunno...personally I've never found anything wrong with the RNG part of AST. It's...random...even if the same card appears several times or not at all.Â

Maybe I'm just different, but my mindset is something like this: Never depend on a gamble. Don't expect anything, just treat the cards like a nifty bonus that may or may not come in handy at a given moment. The Utility is in the cards, but my heals are what I'm here for.

That way I don't get frustrated or anything, It's like 'Oh! The Bole! Neat. Handy!', 'Ah...three ewers in a row? Well I suppose the BLM/DRK/whatever or myself can go ham. Neat.'

'Ooh the heals are so pretty.'

Perhaps I'm just really easy to please lol.

Sierra Nazrin · **09-04-2015, 09:10 AM**

(09-04-2015, 08:45 AM)Foxberry Wrote:
(09-04-2015, 08:43 AM)Sierra Nulah Wrote:
(09-04-2015, 07:59 AM)Foxberry Wrote: I thought they worked on this with one of the former patches, is it still RNGing badly? I don't really play AST; but I have friends who do. This is disappointing to hear if they've said they fixed it and it not being really fixed.
Well yeah.. RNG involved in a healer class is a bit of a pain, there are other ways it could have been done. though as i stated, some RNG is fine. just this personally feels rediculas.

That's not... really what I asked? I main a WHM. I'm aware of RNG with healing classes as a whole.
What I was asking was; if the RNG was still pretty wonky on AST, as live-letters and patches were mentioned to have helped some; in comparison to what the RNG problems were before.

I guess i indirectly answered that, to take the statement i had put there and give a direct answer it would be. Yes, Astrologian cards are still unbalanced.

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