(12-12-2016, 01:22 PM)Valence Wrote: Besides chocobos, griffins (ala-mighi), horses (far east) and the few creatures tamed by beast tribes (thinking of the vanu and gnath here), is there any other creatures that can be tamed and used as mounts? Where does the lore stands here exactly?
Not totally sure where all the mounts ingame stand here...
First place to look would be in the lore descriptions in the mount menu, but other scattered references exist out there. In general, if a beast can be tamed, it would have been done so first by the beast tamers of The Pearl, an island in the Rothlyt Sound, south of Ala Mhigo. Then there are mounts tamed by the individual beast tribes, the chocobo husbandry in Ishgard, and the Griffin mounts of Ala Mhigo. Where it gets complicated is separating what mounts would be more widely available across Eorzea (or Hydaelyn) and which were brought to heel by the miraculous Warrior of Light. Again, all this is pretty easily sorted through with their lore blurb.
I'm skipping Magitek Armors, as they can all pretty much be obtained in one of two places: stolen from a Garlean castrum or built by the Garlond Ironworks. Though why any Eorzean would ride around in one when you're very likely to get attacked by every Empire-fearing adventurer and soldier you pass.
I'm also skipping the primal ponies, as those are all nightmares used to enhance the strengths of primal summonings. As you would need to defeat a primal to have access to one, theoretically, that would lie within the realm of WoL or lucky survivors of primal victories. In either case, not a common mount.
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Common Eorzean or Grand Company Mounts
Grand Company / Frontlines Specific:
Encyclopedia Eorzea Wrote:The domestication of chocobos in Eorzea appears to date back to prehistory, with ancient paintings recently discovered near Ishgard showing tribesfolk using the flightless yellow cloudkin to till the earth, transport grain, and carry warriors into battle. While the overwhelming majority of chocobos seen in Eorzea today are of Coerthan stock, it is rummored that wild breeds of the species - including those which have retained the capacity for flight - still thrive throughout forests nestled in the vastly unexplored valleys of Abalathia's Spine.
Company Chocobo Wrote:Born and bred in the city-state of Ishgard, the majority of company chocobos are geldings of the rouncey variety; however, massive destriers and miniature Belah'dian jennets are also raised to accommodate the builds of Roegadyn and Lalafell riders respectively.-For an in-depth look at Chocobo lore and Ishgard's raising and distribution of them.
Ceremony Chocobo Wrote:Raised by Ishgard's master breeders for beauty and purity of stock, its snow white feathers are natural and, though fully developed, as soft as down. Temperament-wise, the bird is remarkably docile and one of few breeds who will allow dual riders upon its back.
Black Chocobo Wrote:A Purebred Ishgardian black chocobo, trained from birth by House Fortemps knight, Ser Haurchefaunt,* and presented to you in a gesture of true friendship. The bird is slightly more muscular than you expected and exhibits the strange habit of squatting when left to itself.-*The specific Black Chocobo Haurchefaunt raised is obviously WoL only, but other Black Chocobos exist.
Draught Chocobo Wrote:This heretofore unseen breed of chocobo was said to have been discovered by chocobo hunters searching for the legendary Chocobo Forest. Its enormous size would make it a fine pack chocobo, but its foul temper prevents it from completing even the simplest of tasks without the injury of some poor rider.-Little iffy on this one, but heretofore unseen isn't the same as never seen again, obviously, since they're now finding Amber Draught Chocobos the further into the Chocobo Forest they delve.
Amber Draught Chocobo Wrote:To Ishgardians, red represents true love and loyalty. To this wild chocobo from the Dravanian forelands, it meant capture at the hands of hunters who easily found a red chocobo sticking out like a sore thumb in the midst of all his yellow brethren.
Encyclopedia Eorzea Wrote:The buffalo is a hulking beast with four sturdy legs, broad, muscular shoulders, and a stout pair of horns curving widely from its shaggy head. Formidable though they seem, the specimens found in Eorzea are all domesticated breeds, reared in the frontier settlements of La Noscea and the Black Shroud as beasts of burden and a source of food. Since the recent influx of leatherworkers to the realm, however, buffalo are valued as highly for their skins as they are for their meat and labor.
Grand Company / Frontlines Specific:
Warsteed Wrote:After witnessing dazzling demonstrations of how a warsteed might turn the tide of battle, the Grand Companies of Eorzea emptied their coffers at the feet of the Far Eastern uma bugyo, each seeking to put themselves at an advantage during Frontline campaigns.
Aerodynamics System Wrote:Unearthed in the eastern lowlands of Coerthas, engineers surmise that this particular Allagan drone would likely have been used in aerial defense, although its weaponry functions are now beyond repair. Even so, it is still quite convenient as a transportation device.
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Rare Mounts from Specialized Tamers (Ul'dah or The Pearl)
Pearl Tamers:
Ul'dahn Tamers:
Other Tamers:
Pearl Tamers:
Cat Eat Dog Wrote:The Jolly Raptor is planning a shipment of fresh mongrel meat to the coeurl tamers on the Pearl, yet has been unable to procure enough of the pungent fodder after half of the sellswords hired to do the job ran off with the coin paid them in advance. The traders are now seeking adventurers to travel to Halatali and help them complete the order. Payment for services rendered will be received upon delivery of goods.
Coeurl Mount Wrote:Native to the jungles of the Near East, coeurls were only recently introduced to Eorzea, brought over from faraway lands such as Thavnair by Ul'dahn nobles who thought to breed them as pets. Now, but a handful of skilled tamers living in recluse on the Pearl are said to be able to train them.
Encyclopedia Eorzea Wrote:Native to the regions of the Near East, these predatory quadrupeds are unrivaled in their savagery. A coeurl subdues its prey by unleashing electrical shocks from the two whip-like appendages that frame its fang-lined jaws. The feral specimens encountered in Eorzea descend from escaped war beasts once trained on a remote island at the mouth of the Rothlyt Sound known as the Pearl.
Ul'dahn Tamers:
Adamantoise Mount Wrote:Native to the Near Eastern island of Thavnair, adamantoises were long thought to be impossible to domesticate. However, through the efforts of Ul'dahn zoologists, a handful of the colossal scalekin have been successfully trained to accept riders.
Warlion Wrote:Early in the Sixth Astral Era, lions were brought over from the Near East and trained to serve as battle mounts for the Sultansworn of Ul'dah. Deemed unbreakable, those not sold to the Coliseum for venationes were released into the deserts of Thanalan where they eventually reverted back to a feral state.
Going for Goat Wrote:Yes, chocobos are quick, strong, and reliable, but with their narrow backs, they can only bear so much burden. But I ask you this - what if one were to train a larger beast, such as an aldgoat? Over twice the cargo could be hauled with half the number of animals! Profits would double, nay triple, overnight! I must test my theory immediately, but, as a mere merchant, do not have the means of taming and pacifying an aldgoat on my own. There is good coin to be made for any adventurer who might help me in seeing my dream realized.
Ahriman Mount Wrote:Though little is known of the void and the creatures which call the extra-dimensional realm home, scholars have discovered that there is a strict hierarchy amongst voidsent consisting of twelve distinct tiers. Ahrimans are believed to fall into the fifth, making them formidable foes... when not enthralled by curses.**Likely a one-off experiment by the Thaumaturges of the Order of Nald'thal. The summoning or communion with a voidsent is strictly illegal (and punishable by death) across Eorzea.
Other Tamers:
Goobbue Mount Wrote:Traded for a song by the High Satrap of a distant land, the secret to taming these creatures once thought to be unbreakable was introduced to Eorzea by a mysterious wandering minstrel who journeyed through the realm in the final days before the Calamity.
Encyclopedia Eorzea Wrote:Unicorn
These single-horned beastkin are extremely guarded creatures who will rarely, if ever, reveal themselves to man. Atypical cases of unicorns being tamed almost always involve years of gaining the creatures' trust before even first contact is made. House Fortemps - one of Ishgard's four great houses - bears the unicorn on its sigil, believing the creature to represent the majesty and mystery of their ancestry.
Griffin Mount Wrote:Fantastical winged beasts native to the unscalable peaks of Abalathia's Spine, griffins actually have a long history of serving as mounts. Indeed, before the city-state's fall, the Ala Mhigan army maintained a regiment of griffin-back soldiers who would harry opposing forces.
Witch's Broom Wrote:Once an ordinary household cleaning tool, relegated to such menial tasks as sweeping and...sweeping, this broom's life changed upon being enchanted by the ogre pumpkinhead. Now the skies are its dusty floors.-I can see these being a thing in Sharlayan?
Behemoth Mount Wrote:Immediately following the Calamity, an adventurer returning to Gridania from the Falcon's Nest in Coerthas happened upon a den of baby behemoths who had lost their mother to Bahamut's flames. Despite objections from friends and family alike, she kept the beasts, eventually training them to serve as mounts.
Encyclopedia Eorzea Wrote:Lanner
Discontent with the chains that bind him to the ground, man has ever longed to conquer the skies. It is this obsession that spurred ancient civilizations to selectively breed only the largest of falcons over spans of several hundred years until the birds were large enough to bear even the stoutest of Roegadyn. In addition to transport, some beast tribes choose to use these noble cloudkin as offerings to their primals in their summoning ceremonies, believing them to be symbols of strength and freedom.
Round Lanner Wrote:These birds are possessed of dignity equal to the noble personages whom they serve. Ancient Ishgardian knights often indulged themselves in falconry, and lanners were revered for their abilities, their lyncean eyes being well-suited for sighting prey on the ground.-Apparently served the Knights of the Round, so, some Ishgardian shmuck must train them?
Fenrir Mount Wrote:Following the rise of Ishgard, hoarhounds all but disappeared from the Coerthas highlands. However, the shift in climate caused by the Calamity has seen the legendary beasts descend from their mountain dens once more.-Iffy, but possible?
Manacutter Wrote:Supervised (in spirit) by the ever-absent Cid, Biggs and Wedge (with a little bending over by Biggs) put their heads together to create this flight-ready miniature airship, powered by the realm's first corrupted crystal engine.-More lore on the Manacutter found earlier in this thread.
Wyvern Mount Wrote:Fifty score years ago, this wyvern made a pact with a knight to aid in vanquishing evil from the skies. Even now, long after the knight's passing, the wyvern has kept that promise, ever circling the heavens─ignoring the calls of his brethren to take up arms against mankind.-Possibly a more common sight now that the Dragonsong War is over and peace between man and dragon may lead the way to new alliances.
War Panther Wrote:While more difficult to train than their cousins the coeurls, panthers bring their riders much more advantage on the field due to the beasts' inherent affinity to various magic. It is also believed that many Dark Knight battle techniques were conceived by watching panthers hunt.
Warbear Wrote:In generations past, warriors seeking fame and glory would journey out into the untamed wilds of Abalathia's Spine in search of the giant grizzled bears that roamed the mountains, and would wrestle the beasts into submission, riding their prizes back to civilization. That is, or die trying.
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Mounts Tamed by the Beast Tribes
Gobwalker Wrote:Originally designed to be a less-fickle replacement for pack raptors, the gobwalker was quickly reoutfitted into a tool of war after it took twenty goblins to chase down and topple a walker that had gone out of control and destroyed an entire workshop.-Likely obtainable by anyone that takes on the Illuminati ICly? Remember they're not just in Alexander.
Bomb Palanquin Wrote:Upon learning that his creations were forever lacking the power to combust, 789th Order Acolyte Ba Go did what any master of explosives would—attach the bombs to the corners of an iron bench and create a floating coach.-Very unlikely to be something seen commonly throughout Eorzea.
Cloud Mallow Wrote:While cloud mallows grow naturally in the Churning Mists, some of the inhabitants of Moghome have spent generations cultivating their own seeds to allow for stronger stems and larger yields of mallow puffs, a sprinkling of which can stimulate even the most lethargic of moogles to work with unbridled joy.-Ehhhhhhh, I could see adventurers snatching these. Possibly some of the more open-minded Ishgardians also? The argument could be made.
Cavalry Drake Mount Wrote:Training a cavalry drake is a long and arduous process that begins the moment the scalekin hatches. Never allowed to see its mother, the creature is raised solely in the presence of a drake whisperer while being weaned on the incendiary glands of aged battle drakes to ensure it is both submissive and deadly.
Cavalry Elbst Mount Wrote:To ensure his elbst do not find themselves at a disadvantage to swift-running chocobos, Pahh of Novv's Clutch clips the webbing on their feet at a young age, rendering them more capable of achieving high speeds on land. This procedure, however, robs them of their natural-born ability to swim.
Encyclopedia Eorzea Wrote:This vilekin most commonly found in the Abalathian foothills actually spends the first half of its life completely under water feeding on small fish and frogs, until growing to a length of almost a dozen hands. After a short pupal stage, the kongamato leaves it pupal exoskeleton to emerge as a fully winged creature which is often trapped and trained by the Gnath to be used as flying mounts.
Kongamato Wrote:Kongamato can be fickle─yes, very fickle─but they always return home to us. - Vath Kintamer
Rose Lanner Wrote:The ferocity of these birds is enough to give pause to the bravest warrior, and their keen talons cut through flesh as cleanly the Chandrahas themselves. Any who endeavor to mount the rose lanner must possess the savagery that defines the Wrath of the Colony.-Sticking this under Gnath-tamed.
Sanuwa Mount Wrote:Countless turns of the sun did Luna Vanu train this wild sanuwa to obey the orders of man, and for many moons did he wait for one he deemed worthy of taking up this noble cloudkin's reins. Wait, he did, until you arrived.
Encyclopedia Eorzea Wrote:A noble serpent-like scalekin native to the Sea of Clouds, sanuwas have long been used by Vanu Vanu as battle mounts. As the sanuwas age, they become more adept at manipulating ambient wind aether, some even capable of calling tornados from otherwise calm skies - a skill most useful when hunting food.
White Lanner Wrote:These birds are clad in roiling clouds, and noble Vanu Vanu warriors would sit astride them as part of Bismarck's retinue. The grace with which they glide through the skies evokes the image of a flower petal being carried by gentle western winds.
Direwolf Wrote:Mass cullings of the beasts during the Sixth Astral Era prompted naturalists to deem the species extinct. However, this claim was proved false when Ixali scouts discovered a lone pack roaming the sparsely inhabited mountains of Xelphatol.
Gloria-class Airship Wrote:Taking inspiration from the half-remembered dream of his grandfather Tatanora, Tataramu used his encyclopedic knowledge to design a small-scale version of a rotary-winged airship. Its name derives from an airship that appears in an obscure novel of unknown origins.-Likely not something to be mass produced or even sold to anyone Tataramu didn't know personally, hence, the Ixali beast tribe affiliation.
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Mounts Tamed by the Warrior of Light
Arrhidaeus Wrote:Fabricated within Alexander's internal manufactories, Arrhidaeus was primarily used to wreak temporal disruption on any and all invaders. This particular construct saw its weapons systems overridden following capture, and now serves as a glorified transport module.-Only WoL and Party entered Alexander with Mide.
Astrope Wrote:The emergent studies of winged horses had to be rewritten with a single sighting of Astrope, confirming that adult pegasi are not only enormous in size, but also possessed of a horn. Wary of most, Astrope only allows those of gentle heart to climb upon its back─a back large enough to seat two!-So rare it's only had one recorded sighting? Sounds more like an Astnope.
Pegasus Mount Wrote:While rumors of a winged horse have graced ancient tomes for centuries, until recently, very little in the way of proof of their existence remained save the random feather or horseshoe housed in some remote monastery's reliquary.-This one was an up in the air for me. They're rare enough that no one has seen an adult pegasus to know it has a horn until recently. So, that points me more towards WoL mount, or extremely uncommon at the very least.
Black Pegasus Wrote:While uncommon, tales of pegasi black as ink can be found amongst the folklore of countless tribes. One similarity, however, can be observed in nearly all the renditions─that those unworthy of the steed will have their very life essence sapped the moment they climb upon its back.-Legends abound!
Bennu Mount Wrote:This bird was reborn after drinking deep of the aether that flowed forth from the immortal Phoenix, who appeared in the skies of Carteneau during the Calamity. Named after a legendary bird, bennu means “a shining object, rising in brilliance.â€
Black Chocobo Wrote:A Purebred Ishgardian black chocobo, trained from birth by House Fortemps knight, Ser Haurchefaunt,* and presented to you in a gesture of true friendship. The bird is slightly more muscular than you expected and exhibits the strange habit of squatting when left to itself.-*This specific Black Chocobo is WoL only, that's not to say that other Black Chocobos can't be found, hence why this mount is in the top section, as well as this one.
Dark Lanner Wrote:Consumed by malice almost equal to their master's, these birds roost in Nidhogg's lair, and regularly bathe themselves in the aetheric tempests surrounding the Aery. Sight of their glowing wings outside the Churning Mists can set the common folk into a panic, as they are thought to be the Horde's harbingers of death.-Only the WoL and Party were able to breach the aetheric defenses of Nidhogg's lair using just two of Cid's prototype manacutters. If the Lanners have since been released from Nidhogg's thrall and fled the Aery, they could be tamed by your average joe? Maybe?
Disembodied Head Wrote:E-Una-Kotor created this winged monstrosity using stone hewn from the very walls of the Palace of the Dead in an attempt to better understand the guardian golems which watch over the Lost City of Amdapor. That the face chosen for the design bears an uncanny likeness to a certain someone is one stone best left unturned.-Moving right past the W H Y to the Is he mass producing these? I doubt it.
Fat Chocobo Wrote:Playfully described by some as "large and in charge," in truth, when summoned, this gluttonous gourmand will flap nary a feather unless a garland of gysahl greens is dangled before him—in which case not even the laws of nature can slow the fat chocobo down.-Use of the word summoned, as well as the extreme unlikelihood that many of these cannibalistic omnivores would be readily bred in Ishgard leads me to conclude this is a WoL mount. That's not to say that Fat Chocobos aren't canon, just that they're likely not the norm, and not highly esteemed or practical.
Original Fat Chocobo Wrote:Maybe not larger, but definitely more in charge, this most gluttonous of gluttons inspired the others to great weights. Although most modern chocobos have yellow plumage, historic tomes portray birds covered in feathers whiter than the whitest snowfall─ All the better to see the stains of its many meals.-For the same reasons as above, though this one does provide some interesting insight into chocobo plumage.
Parade Chocobo Wrote:Originally purchased by the Adventurers' Guild for use in festival parades, this portly steed quickly wore out his welcome by devouring a moon's worth of fodder in a single turn of the sun. Unable to pay the price of upkeep, the guild passed the reigns to someone more “commendable."-Well, there you go, neither esteemed nor practical. But, if you want to have a fat chocobo, and you're an adventurer, there's your in.
Fat Moogle Wrote:This plus-sized patrician epitomizes the ancient moogle proverb regarding kupo nuts that says, “Once you kupop, you cannot stop.†Basic laws of physics suggest that wings as small as the fat moogle's should not provide enough lift for true flight... yet here we are.-Moogles are rare to find (not to mention invisible to most) so seeing a bunch of fat ones dragging carriages is probably out of the question.
Kirin Wrote:Ask any man in Othard who rules the realm of beasts, and you will receive the same answer-Kirin. It is believed that the lion-like creature has walked the eastern lands for over a thousand years and will only answer the call of a hero it has deemed worthy.
Legacy Chocobo Wrote:In the five years following your sudden disappearance at Carteneau Flats, your ever-faithful chocobo spent each waking moment galloping across the realm in search of his lost master. His myriad adventures are nothing less than fantastical and heartbreaking... but that is a story for another day.-More a Warriors of Light exclusive versus the Warrior of Light exclusive. Many Twelvesblades likely lost their chocobos in a similar fashion. Use at your discretion, obviously?
Logistics System Wrote:One of the automated system drones deployed by the Allagans to maintain and protect their strongholds. After being unearthed by the Sons of Saint Coinach, the mechanical sphere was modified by Nero tol Scaeva into a personal transportation device.-Unless you're an archaeologist with the Sons of Saint Coinach (and maybe even if you were) it's unlikely that Nero tol Scaeva had time to modify many of these systems in his brief time with the Sons.
Midgardsormr Mount Wrote:Only after proving your bravery in the face of countless perils has the father of dragons found you to be a worthy heir to the light, and granted you a place upon his back.
Sophic Lanner Wrote:History tells us that disruption in balance twixt good and evil will invariably result in suffering. The noble lanner serves to restore that balance by placing upon the goddess Sophia's scales the weights of equilibrium─ most commonly depicted as our heroes of legend.-Likely only found on Meracydia or Azys Lla?
Warring Lanner Wrote:These birds are enveloped in an aura radiating a majesty that belies the savage nature of their master. According to the ancient legends of a treelike people native to Meracydia, the lanners bore the seeds of the World Tree across the seas, planting the verdant forests that dot the realm today.-Though legend of a people we know next to nothing about says they flew all over the world, you're most likely going to be limited the same as the Sophic Lanner.
Twintania Mount Wrote:Bound to eternal thralldom via an Allagan neurolink, this ancient wyvern from the southern continent of Meracydia will remain a loyal servant as long as you possess its identification key.-Considering the WoL and Party were the only individuals to see Twintania in the last 5000 years, much less defeat her, this mount is strictly a WoL possession.
Sleipnir Mount Wrote:Blessed by the elder primal himself, Sleipnir will forever remain loyal to those who have proven themselves worthy. In addition to being fearless in battle, the dark steed is also able to manipulate his corporeal form to accommodate any rider, large or small.-Unless you defeated Odin, smartly abandoned his sword Zantetsuken, but stole the horse, I dunno. That said, I am well aware many people use this mount as a stand in for a regular horse, which is very understandable considering the PvP gate to access other horses.
Zu Mount Wrote:This horn of bone emits a howling blare that summons your trained zu mount.-The Zu is going down here because I couldn't find any lore reference besides the above that talks about anyone trying to tame a Zu as a mount. It's very likely a bad idea.
Hope this helps! ^^
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